His past tweets from 2020-2021 reveal it all,
Vivek in 2020 said he wanted universal masking and vaccination of all Americans. He supported Slavitt and Bernie Sanders' plan for free masks to force universal masking.
In January of 2021 He condemned Donald Trump for inciting J6. He also attacked Ted Cruz for objecting to electors on J6.
Ramaswampy is a complete fraud.
Here are screenshots of his worst Twitter posts.
I would directly link the posts themselves but Elon Musk made it so you need a Twitter account to view direct Twitter links.
https://ibb.co/y5t39rd https://ibb.co/PTHvt2H https://ibb.co/kDSM199
He's Indian, he was never going to be a serious candidate
Bingo. Some street shitter to appeal to another demographic that's replacing us.
Archive shit if you're going to attack someone.
Pic 1, part 1: "My policy views don't often align with Bernie..."
Pic 1, part 2: "Biden says all adults..."
Pic 1, part 3: "I don't see a video clip here..."
Pic 1, part 4 (final): "A single-dose vaccination strategy..."
Second pic: "What a difference 4 years makes..."
Third pic: "Downright frightening..."
Why the heck am I doing your work for you, you lazy bitch?
Dunno.
You get a "trust but verify" star.
Pajeet threatens to overtake DeSantis in the polls. OP immediately pivots to attacking Pajeet with links to photoshopped screenshots, cites Elon Musk for reasons he wont' post archive links.
Seems super fucking legit bro and not at all another instance of your naked shilling for your preferred candidate.
That said, I'm on board with not trusting a non-white in the office of the President.
To be fair, I don't think they're fake (https://archive.is/wVAdz + https://archive.is/DbyhJ) but, yeah, OP's single-minded hatred of Trump and pushing of DeSantis is quite annoying.
I've been critical of some of OP's claims, specifically his claim to know that Trump will definitely lose, but I find it more annoying that some people here label him as a 'shill' simply because he backs a different candidate than they do and is a bit vocal about it.
This post does not mention DeSantis at all. It should be judged on its merits (not great IMO), without ad hominems on the OP.
I specifically criticized his "single-minded hatred of Trump," not simply his hatred of Trump. It's just like how I criticize Imp more for his presentation, and taking things to the extreme, than I do most individual points. If someone wants to hate and criticize women, or Trump, or whatever...go for it. They're allowed their opinions. But I'll certainly call it out if they go about it in an obnoxious way. And OP certainly does.
I think Mongoose makes a good point, though, in that the reason he's probably attacking Vivek is because he's a potential rival to DeSantis. Just like OP's anti-Trump posts, this is pushing for a particular goal, in a single-minded fashion, which is what I called out.
Yes, I agree, but he has toned it down a bit. Instead of calling DJT an 'orange buffoon', he now makes some good arguments for why nominating DJT is bad. I don't agree, but his arguments are valid ones.
Of course that's the reason. But why on earth would one make a post about the intentions of OP rather than the substance of the matter?
But if you didn't know OP, if I had posted it for example, then it would not have bothered you. So you're not really taking offense at what is being said, but that one particular guy says it.
Debatable. Although, fair, at least it goes slightly beyond Orange Man Bad now. Slightly.
For one thing, that sort of agenda-driven stuff is annoying anyway, and intentions are relevant. Also, I think part of the reason why some people are talking about OP, and not Vivek is...because few if any people here were thinking about voting for Vivek anyway, I'd imagine. I could be wrong, but it seems most people rightly recognized and dismissed him for the snake he was almost instantly.
So the substance of this thread is largely irrelevant, since it is at best a bit of expansion on already known things. So, what's there to really talk about?
Furthermore, my other comments on this thread were all related to the topic; I did OP's job for him and posted archives, and then I also said I wasn't voting for Vivek. Then I responded to one other person who pointed out OP was just attacking DeSantis's rival. That's it.
I never claimed to take offense to what was said. I don't take offense to what was said. And I'm not even objecting to that one guy is saying it, just that it's basically all he says.
Not to make any claim about you, but I think it was Hannah Arendt said that totalitarianism makes questions of argument/fact into questions about intention. I see that with the woke. Why are you posting this story about black crime? Obviously you are a RACIST. It doesn't matter. Even if he is a racist, address the matter!
I agree agendas are bad. If he was posting 5 stories a day anti-Trump and pro-DeSantis, I think you would have a point. Here it's just a story that's perfectly legitimate on its own, it's not overdone, but we just judge it bad because we connect it to the 'intentions' of the poster.
Well, I certainly wasn't planning to write in Vivek in the next election here - because we don't have write ins in Europe.
Whether he is a snake or not, I think he plays a positive role. He put some things on the agenda that others did not. He got Don Lemon fired, which isn't good for us but certainly is amusing.
I didn't know that Vivek said such things about J6 until pro-DeSantis on Twitter posted it. So I think it's valuable. Just like I post stuff about Nikki Haley even though no one here will vote for her.
I was too careless in my words, I meant "not like".
Uuhhhhh....no.
He's not talking smack about Trump there, but instead talking about electability.
What does any of that have to do with whether he's a shill or not? He wised up a bit with his tactics, like any good salesman. This post is pretty good. I do appreciate a well-targeted advertisement. (though he should have linked to archives not only screencaps)
Nobody here calls him a shill simply because he backs a different candidate than they do and is a bit vocal about it.
There are like five people here, and two of them are European. I think it's rather presumptuous to think that he's trying to 'sell' anything.
I agree with this part. Especially the domain for the screencaps was egregious.
This is a long-standing user of KiA and KiA2. In fact, he participated in the stolen vote that led to the creation of KiA2. It's not acceptable to call him a shill. It's unfortunate that people don't have flairs here.
You can be both. We have DeSantis shills, we have Trump shills, we have Ukraine shills, we have Russia shills. OP is a longstanding user...and a DeSantis shill. Doesn't mean I don't respect him, or accept him as a legitimate user here.
They aren't fake.
He might be a shill, but he's still correct here.
Pajeet is a shitbag grifter.
I don't discount that, I'm mostly giving him grief because an image can and will be faked to promote a political agenda. Without an archive of the tweets in question the default assumption should be that the entire thing is fake and gay.
The fact that he’s attacking another candidate who is like 40 points behind Trump means truephil here thinks second place is going to get the nomination. Because he expects Trump to be removed via deep state fuckery.
Come on. If I were supporting DeSantis, and I saw Vivek closing in on him, I'd criticize Vivek as he would be DeSantis' chief rival.
And the runner-up generally gets the nomination 4 years afterwards.
No need to resort to crazy stuff.
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The guy was also a fucking Paul and Daisy Soros fellow. https://archive.ph/Eb529
There is nothing conservative or right wing about this guy and yet certain prominent MAGA influencers keep propping him up.
Jack Posobeic and the Turning Point USA clowns keep promoting Vivek. What do they get out of this?
The irony for you to say this when soros had endorsed desantis, and when desantis is controlled by rino neocons like the bush cartel, paul ryan, and the liberal koch
All of that is BS. Soros never endorsed Ron DeSantis.
It was clear from the beginning that this grifting pajeet was out to fuck us.
If vivek is a scam, the desantis is more so. Soros, paul ryan, and the bushes all supported and endorced the neocon rino
Well, you'll be happy to know, I won't be voting for him.
I don't support Vivek, but I think he's a good presence as he forces the GOP to address things like how they can abolish affirmative action by executive action. (IIRC, there are also people in 'Team Vivek' who are very, very bad actors.)
That said, I don't see anything wrong with what he said. He didn't condemn Trump for 'inciting J6', that's what you made of it. He condemned unspecified 'actions' - and while condemning Silicon Valley tyranny to boot.
Scumbag going for GOP presidential nomination, so I assume he has turtleneck's full support?
He doesn't seem to have any connection to Mitch McConnell.
He is a friend of rat Jared Kushner.
https://archive.ph/mRpQg
"A close friend of Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, Mr. Ramaswamy dined with Mr. Trump and Mr. Kushner at the former president’s New Jersey club, Bedminster, in 2021, according to two people familiar with the event."
The people who are always promoting Vivek Ramaswamy are Jack Posobeic and Charlie Kirk of Turning Point USA.
Funny how soros promoted desantis over trump, and how all the neocon warmongering ukraine shilling rinosnlike paul ryan, bushes, and mcconnell support desantis
You're an insane liar, but then again, you claimed that Philsorapor was Mitch McConnell or something.
Soros explicitly said he hopes De Santis will win the Primary.
https://www.al.com/news/2023/02/george-soros-hopes-desantis-wins-gop-nomination-trump-runs-third-party-race.html
Except that, in fact, Soros did say some shit about how DeSantis would be preferable to Trump. Not an endorsement, no, but one could argue about whether that counts as "promotion."
No, I'm not going to dig up links. It was ages ago and I didn't care about it then and I don't care about it now. For all I know it was Soros 4-d chess to drive support away from DeSantis who he views as the 'real' threat.
But you're basically taking a move from the anti-GG playbook of "nobody wrote reviews for Depression Quest."
Khrushchev was better than Stalin. And Goering was better than Hitler.
If people are infighting over Soros's words, then Soros has power over you. He may just as well believe that DeSantis is worse than Trump, and that saying nice things about DeSantis would hurt him. That's what I would do in his position.
I mean, positive coverage and a review is much more in the same league than an endorsement is to "this guy is less bad than this guy".
Non sequitur. Soros made comments regarding Trump and DeSantis, and you're calling people liars for people bringing up the fact that Soros made those comments.
So you admit that Soros said some things in this regard. Care to rescind your defamatory "liar" accusation?
And I already said I don't care what Soros says about this, so this clearly wasn't addressed at me. Maybe go argue with the people you were calling liars instead.
Huh, I think I said exactly that in a previous post somewhere ... Oh gee, it's the one you responded to! My post was all of like 4 sentences long, was that too much for you?
Ok, well that's a matter of opinion. I think it's in the same category of bad faith argument, but if you want to split hairs that you're not as bad as anti-GG arguers, then I'll grant you that. You, Antonio, aren't as bad as (most) anti-GG people.
It's not a non sequitur, it's a direct analogy, which you weren't able to refute. And I rightly called OP a liar for claiming that Soros "endorsed" DeSantis, an absurd claim. Except for the very worst person on the planet, there's still at least one person worse. That's very different from supporting.
The truthful statement isn't going anywhere.
Yes, you did, and I respond to a comment as I read it.
Explain how it is 'bad faith' to distinguish between an endorsement, which is support for a given person, and believing that someone is less bad than someone else.
Desantis is mconnells, paul ryans, and thw bushes neocon rino pey
Ok, I just naturally go down the list when it comes to this shit
For GOP shit, I go Mcconnell down, for corrupt attoneys and funding leftist protesters, I go Soros down.
CNN was cumming their collective tuck-friendly panties over him
"Nooo thats different!" - raptor defending rink desantis who supports ukraine and is propped by rino shitstains like bushes and paul ryan
At least Desantis doesn't marry off his children to jews who then run the white house.
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I actually don't have a strong opinion on the subject. I just like pointing out the hypocrisy of the antisemitic Trump supporters who get on DeSantis's case, when Trump is as pro-Israel/pro-judaism as DeSantis or even more so.
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But it is even worse than DeSactamonious as a meme.