His past tweets from 2020-2021 reveal it all,
Vivek in 2020 said he wanted universal masking and vaccination of all Americans. He supported Slavitt and Bernie Sanders' plan for free masks to force universal masking.
In January of 2021 He condemned Donald Trump for inciting J6. He also attacked Ted Cruz for objecting to electors on J6.
Ramaswampy is a complete fraud.
Here are screenshots of his worst Twitter posts.
I would directly link the posts themselves but Elon Musk made it so you need a Twitter account to view direct Twitter links.
https://ibb.co/y5t39rd https://ibb.co/PTHvt2H https://ibb.co/kDSM199
I specifically criticized his "single-minded hatred of Trump," not simply his hatred of Trump. It's just like how I criticize Imp more for his presentation, and taking things to the extreme, than I do most individual points. If someone wants to hate and criticize women, or Trump, or whatever...go for it. They're allowed their opinions. But I'll certainly call it out if they go about it in an obnoxious way. And OP certainly does.
I think Mongoose makes a good point, though, in that the reason he's probably attacking Vivek is because he's a potential rival to DeSantis. Just like OP's anti-Trump posts, this is pushing for a particular goal, in a single-minded fashion, which is what I called out.
Yes, I agree, but he has toned it down a bit. Instead of calling DJT an 'orange buffoon', he now makes some good arguments for why nominating DJT is bad. I don't agree, but his arguments are valid ones.
Of course that's the reason. But why on earth would one make a post about the intentions of OP rather than the substance of the matter?
But if you didn't know OP, if I had posted it for example, then it would not have bothered you. So you're not really taking offense at what is being said, but that one particular guy says it.
Debatable. Although, fair, at least it goes slightly beyond Orange Man Bad now. Slightly.
For one thing, that sort of agenda-driven stuff is annoying anyway, and intentions are relevant. Also, I think part of the reason why some people are talking about OP, and not Vivek is...because few if any people here were thinking about voting for Vivek anyway, I'd imagine. I could be wrong, but it seems most people rightly recognized and dismissed him for the snake he was almost instantly.
So the substance of this thread is largely irrelevant, since it is at best a bit of expansion on already known things. So, what's there to really talk about?
Furthermore, my other comments on this thread were all related to the topic; I did OP's job for him and posted archives, and then I also said I wasn't voting for Vivek. Then I responded to one other person who pointed out OP was just attacking DeSantis's rival. That's it.
I never claimed to take offense to what was said. I don't take offense to what was said. And I'm not even objecting to that one guy is saying it, just that it's basically all he says.
Not to make any claim about you, but I think it was Hannah Arendt said that totalitarianism makes questions of argument/fact into questions about intention. I see that with the woke. Why are you posting this story about black crime? Obviously you are a RACIST. It doesn't matter. Even if he is a racist, address the matter!
I agree agendas are bad. If he was posting 5 stories a day anti-Trump and pro-DeSantis, I think you would have a point. Here it's just a story that's perfectly legitimate on its own, it's not overdone, but we just judge it bad because we connect it to the 'intentions' of the poster.
Well, I certainly wasn't planning to write in Vivek in the next election here - because we don't have write ins in Europe.
Whether he is a snake or not, I think he plays a positive role. He put some things on the agenda that others did not. He got Don Lemon fired, which isn't good for us but certainly is amusing.
I didn't know that Vivek said such things about J6 until pro-DeSantis on Twitter posted it. So I think it's valuable. Just like I post stuff about Nikki Haley even though no one here will vote for her.
I was too careless in my words, I meant "not like".
Uuhhhhh....no.
He's not talking smack about Trump there, but instead talking about electability.
What does any of that have to do with whether he's a shill or not? He wised up a bit with his tactics, like any good salesman. This post is pretty good. I do appreciate a well-targeted advertisement. (though he should have linked to archives not only screencaps)
Nobody here calls him a shill simply because he backs a different candidate than they do and is a bit vocal about it.
There are like five people here, and two of them are European. I think it's rather presumptuous to think that he's trying to 'sell' anything.
I agree with this part. Especially the domain for the screencaps was egregious.
This is a long-standing user of KiA and KiA2. In fact, he participated in the stolen vote that led to the creation of KiA2. It's not acceptable to call him a shill. It's unfortunate that people don't have flairs here.
You can be both. We have DeSantis shills, we have Trump shills, we have Ukraine shills, we have Russia shills. OP is a longstanding user...and a DeSantis shill. Doesn't mean I don't respect him, or accept him as a legitimate user here.