Men not having high enough standards is why the current gender dynamics are highly skewed in favor of women.
Pretty much all young women(18-30) these days expect a 6 foot+ tall guy, who is wealthy(6 figures minimum) and is physically attractive while most of these women have no cooking/cleaning skills, many of them are overweight and most of these women have had atleast 10+ men as sexual partners.
The average guy just wants a woman who is not fat, doesn't whore around and is not a bitch in terms of personality.
Look, I'm not denying that; but when are you gonna put a ring on it? Only virgin women? Yeah, that's unreasonable past 25 nowadays unless she's Morman. At least if she's moderately attractive. A woman in her 30's? Well, you can forget the whole idea that she'll be a virgin. You'll be lucky if she doesn't have kids. But hey, maybe you want kids! Because, uh, once she's pushing past 30 you might have to settle with someone else's kids because she won't have yours.
I'm not saying this is good, but we live in a burning civilization, and a degenerate society. I'm all for men setting good standards, but the most important time for that is during the relationship, not before it. If you set your standards too high, you can forget about finding anyone at all. Unfortunately, that bar is pretty fucking low.
I disagree completely with this attitude because you cannot turn a hoe into a housewife.
Having too low standards in your selection criteria sets you up to destroy your own life.
I have seen close relatives go through disastrous divorces and I have also seen close relatives stay in horrible marriages merely to avoid divorce.
I am Asian American and even the Asian community which was generally known for strong familial ties and low divorce rates has been completely infected by western feminist culture.
Women of my same ethnicity living in America prefer sleeping around with White men and after they hit the wall, they become open to dating their own ethnicity. Alpha fucks, Beta bucks in practice.
I am in my 30s and I have been MGTOW for years. I will choose to remain single than settle for this garbage.
I am Asian American and even the Asian community which was generally known for strong familial ties and low divorce rates has been completely infected by western feminist culture.
You can tell a 1st generation, non-infected Asian girl from a 2nd+ generation Asian girl infected by terminal feminism from a mile away. It's so damn easy to spot. Good culture can buy you some time, but it's only a matter of time before being infected by the shit culture that surrounds you on all sides.
Well, never? With all the systems in place that protect women from the consequences of their decision, systems that put the responsibility, blame and fallout of said decisions squarely on the shoulders of the man (or men in general via welfare), there's no reason to ever consider marriage.
It's not womens nature that is the problem (women's nature hasn't changed all that much), it's that there's no consequences for a woman to give in to their nature. Well there are, but they don't feel it until they have already hit the wall.
Then this would be an even stupider point. You're only going to fuck virgins, and not marry them. Leaving them to be a time bomb of resentment for other men, and diminishing the very pool of virgins that OC said they wanted to engage with in the first place.
That is not a sustainable strategy for society. The only choice would be to make women much more choosey, which is actually a bad plan anyway since men are the ones most likely to take the initiative.
Women maintain that definition religiously because it allows them incredible slut ability but a complete deniability to maintain both the lie to later men and their own feelings of "not being a slut."
That reminds me of the movie Fatgirl. The sister kept saying she was a virgin and then doing everything except one so she could keep her reputation. It was about a fat little girl who wished boys would try the same things as her sister. It was French and all the movie reviewers loved it.
Doesn't that end with the mother and two sisters in a car at night and the older sister getting killed with an axe to the head, the mother strangled by the axe wielding man, who then has sex with the fat younger sister?
No hymen, No diamond.
I appreciate the standard, but you're probably gonna have to lower that bar.
Men not having high enough standards is why the current gender dynamics are highly skewed in favor of women.
Pretty much all young women(18-30) these days expect a 6 foot+ tall guy, who is wealthy(6 figures minimum) and is physically attractive while most of these women have no cooking/cleaning skills, many of them are overweight and most of these women have had atleast 10+ men as sexual partners.
The average guy just wants a woman who is not fat, doesn't whore around and is not a bitch in terms of personality.
Look, I'm not denying that; but when are you gonna put a ring on it? Only virgin women? Yeah, that's unreasonable past 25 nowadays unless she's Morman. At least if she's moderately attractive. A woman in her 30's? Well, you can forget the whole idea that she'll be a virgin. You'll be lucky if she doesn't have kids. But hey, maybe you want kids! Because, uh, once she's pushing past 30 you might have to settle with someone else's kids because she won't have yours.
I'm not saying this is good, but we live in a burning civilization, and a degenerate society. I'm all for men setting good standards, but the most important time for that is during the relationship, not before it. If you set your standards too high, you can forget about finding anyone at all. Unfortunately, that bar is pretty fucking low.
I disagree completely with this attitude because you cannot turn a hoe into a housewife.
Having too low standards in your selection criteria sets you up to destroy your own life.
I have seen close relatives go through disastrous divorces and I have also seen close relatives stay in horrible marriages merely to avoid divorce.
I am Asian American and even the Asian community which was generally known for strong familial ties and low divorce rates has been completely infected by western feminist culture.
Women of my same ethnicity living in America prefer sleeping around with White men and after they hit the wall, they become open to dating their own ethnicity. Alpha fucks, Beta bucks in practice.
I am in my 30s and I have been MGTOW for years. I will choose to remain single than settle for this garbage.
No thanks.
You can tell a 1st generation, non-infected Asian girl from a 2nd+ generation Asian girl infected by terminal feminism from a mile away. It's so damn easy to spot. Good culture can buy you some time, but it's only a matter of time before being infected by the shit culture that surrounds you on all sides.
Well, never? With all the systems in place that protect women from the consequences of their decision, systems that put the responsibility, blame and fallout of said decisions squarely on the shoulders of the man (or men in general via welfare), there's no reason to ever consider marriage.
It's not womens nature that is the problem (women's nature hasn't changed all that much), it's that there's no consequences for a woman to give in to their nature. Well there are, but they don't feel it until they have already hit the wall.
Then this would be an even stupider point. You're only going to fuck virgins, and not marry them. Leaving them to be a time bomb of resentment for other men, and diminishing the very pool of virgins that OC said they wanted to engage with in the first place.
That is not a sustainable strategy for society. The only choice would be to make women much more choosey, which is actually a bad plan anyway since men are the ones most likely to take the initiative.
My point is that prevention isn't an option at all. You're never gonna find the perfect woman. You're gonna have to find the "goodest enough" one.
If she's 28 and has 3 previous relationships, zero divorces, zero kids, that's a good option.
Yeah it's a bad sign, but you live in the West. You have limited options.
Is that not what he was saying?
I took what he said as: even that is totally unacceptable. Virgin women or nothing.
I'm not an animal.
Humans are animals though.
What is the phrase? Shoe apes? Hat monkeys? Pants chimps?
Thumb ponderers?
Women maintain that definition religiously because it allows them incredible slut ability but a complete deniability to maintain both the lie to later men and their own feelings of "not being a slut."
That reminds me of the movie Fatgirl. The sister kept saying she was a virgin and then doing everything except one so she could keep her reputation. It was about a fat little girl who wished boys would try the same things as her sister. It was French and all the movie reviewers loved it.
Doesn't that end with the mother and two sisters in a car at night and the older sister getting killed with an axe to the head, the mother strangled by the axe wielding man, who then has sex with the fat younger sister?
What the fuck France
Yes that's the one.
Well, that escalated quickly.
The Patriarchy got us pretty far, before the institution abdicated its duties and allowed skanks to walk about unchallenged.
Marriage, divorce, sex and adultery studies say otherwise.
That just means women need not be consulted on its existence and enforcement.
Thanks for removing that barrier PP.