Apparently Dinesh is a ConsumeProduct regular?
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Don't get worked up over the title joke. I just think it's funny how a guy can attack White "rednecks" who support Republicans as being low IQ imbeciles, but Dinesh pointing to The Science is racist and wrong.
Twitter replies are about 50/50. Better than what I expected actually.
They have been pushing the “low IQ redneck GOP voter” for years
I remember seeing a friend on facebook post the percentage of democrats with college degrees vs republicans and lamenting the stupidity of them during the late Bush era. I'm sure it goes back a lot further than that.
My parents have been Republican since I was born so I’ve heard that mindset a lot. Before I was born but I remember a story about a reporter who was shocked that Nixon beat McGovern and said “nobody I know voted for Nixon”
Reminds me of my favorite peak Trump TDS moment.
When the guys behind Epic Rap Battles of History made their expected Presidential candidate episode of Hillary vs Trump, which is heavily lopsided towards Hillary including refusing to let Lincoln slap her at the end. This despite the Romney vs Obama one being quite fair, where most people admit Romney outright wrecked Obama despite the show being run by heavy Leftists from the start.
And then a bunch of the staff being shocked and "scared" the day after they released it as people in droves call them out on their blatant bias, fully admitting they didn't think anyone really liked Trump or could possible be voting for him. If I recall right, it was a major reason, or just the assumed one, why the show had such a long hiatus right after.
No surprise. My older brother has a PhD and has spent time in college academia circles and he said that so many of them are oblivious to the fact that there is a whole country outside the dc area or NYC
Which is funny when they also only moments later talk about the evil rich capitalist gop voter…
that's the favorite go-to of the jidfs, "inbred rednecks".
It's a Democrat slander that has its roots in mocking West Virginia for leaving the rest of the state over slavery a hundred sixty years ago.
I mean, rednecks are really stupid. There's just about a hundred other groups in the US that are equally or more stupid, and nobody talks about that because they're scared of being called racist.
That’s true. But as long as I can remember democrat voters have always been pushed as the more intelligent bunch
Progressives have no principles, only rhetoric. They are mentally deranged. Dinesh is making the mistake of engaging with the tumour instead of pointing out that the tumour is being a hypocrite and cannot comprehend this because it is mentally deranged.
2 things I got from that.
People do not understand that the average IQ of Indians in US is not the same as the IQ of Indians in India and that leftist turn to "go back to your country" when it suits them. Very funny.
Wypipo don' season dey IQ.
I point this out often to lefties who try to dunk on conservatives for being low IQ retards. They either ignore it or call me a liar. They never acknowledge the truth.
Part of the justification for "republicans are dumb" is a fallacious use of the link between IQ and income. There's a correlation between IQ and income - smart people tend to earn more. But earning less does not make you dumb, especially when comparing across different areas with different standards of living. A while ago, a bunch of armchair statisticians took a map of average income of different counties and discovered that red counties earn less, and therefore must be dumb because if the IQ-income link. Completely ignoring the fact that rural counties tend to be red and rural areas have a much more affordable standard of living.
Just be aware of this because it's definitely going to come up again.
But women taught us that earning less makes you literally worth less as a partner and person. If you aren't earning more and gaining massive social status, you can't bang more women.
And that's the literal only metric of success in life isn't it?
Sounds to me like by their rules, conservatives are oppressed. Where's my reparations check?
No, but he has a working IQ and isn't a child or a coward.
The majority of democrats are women. I dont' care what their IQ is. They don't think politics with their fraggin brains.
Average IQ is fixed for a race. The fact that intelligent people can be educated does not mean you can educate people into being intelligent.
Genetic groups are fixed now. In a generation, they can shift, but you're born with the same genes you die with, and if you weren't born with the genes that allow you to plan for the future, retain information, or hold a lot of data points in working memory, you aren't going to improve beyond those limits.
For those who lack the genes of success, the memes of success are doubly important, but one of the key features of successful genes is a predisposition to adhering to successful memes.
It's a mountain to climb, but acknowledging it's there is the only way to start up the slope.
I'm fairly certain that the people from 1923 are exactly same as the people from 2023.
No one cares if you are the strongest or the most barbaric, what matters is who live and who die. To survive you need to have both strength and intelligent, which the whites seem to have the most balance stats.
A pack of dindus could easily be wipeout by one guy carrying an ar15 with sufficient tactical knowledge and training.
Not IQ. Average IQ. This keeps eluding you.
Human races clearly exist. You can identify them visually. Trying real hard to ignore this is the social construct. You are taught to do that, and you can identify when and where you were taught to do that.
Please explain why there are no Baboon rocket scientists.
purely socioeconomic factors.
Democrat policies from the 60s
You are retarded. Do not put words in my mouth.
I meant baboon, Papio papio, a member of the family Cercopithecidae.
Why are there no baboon rocket scientist?
Systemic oppression, clearly.
The differences in IQ between races in America are maintained even among adopted children. And no, I don't think it's because white parents who adopt a black baby are secretly racist and treat their black child poorly.
The problem is that modern black Americans who are the descendants of slaves underwent several selection processes that do not favor IQ. First, they're mostly from central Africa, which is warm. You don't have to plan for the winter, so long term planning is never selected for. Second, they were captured and enslaved by other tribes in Africa, so they're the worst of that bunch, either in terms of social capital or organization or combat technology. Third, they had a harsh voyage and physically demanding existence as slaves, which selects for heartiness over intelligence. Fourth, there was possibly a selection process in the breeding of slaves, selecting only the strongest and dumbest - I'm not sure if this is true and it's not an allowed question in polite society since the answer is either "yes, blacks are genetically damaged", or "no, slave owners weren't that cruel".
Another problem is that melanin directly causes aggression. As in, if you take an animal and inject it with melanin, it will become more aggressive. This is obvious if you look at the coloring of all domesticated animals, which are only bred for docility. Even among breeds of dog - there are no golden rottweilers.
The differences are genetic. To get equality with meritocracy, you would need to roll out large scale a gene therapy program, and one of the side effects of that would be that everyone would end up with lighter skin.
This is not a particularly American problem.
The average IQ of blacks is much lower in Africa, mostly in the 60s, but in some countries in the 40s. In places where there is ample nutrition and education it's in the low 80s, whether that's Alabama, Stockholm, or Tokyo.
So no, there's nothing special about the slaves. Evolution takes much longer than a few generations, and e.g. recessive genes and epigenetics make sure that you can't just selects for traits in a few generations by artificial means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study
Lefty source even. It's funny, you can tell everything you need to know by the conspicuous omission of the 1976 results from the introductory paragraph.
They likely are. Using my same reasoning process about selection pressure, the jews have had no homeland for most of their existence. They've existed by infiltrating and manipulating other cultures, living off of them parasitically. Being found out or expelled from the host society leads to great suffering and death for them. That puts a huge selection pressure on the ability to manipulate and maintain a complex network of lies. That takes intelligence. It also leads to elevated neurotic behavior and psychological illness, which has been medically documented amongst the jews.
I try not to avoid the truth just because there are unfortunate conclusions.
Most of the difference is located in verbal intelligence, which supports your hypothesis.
This is a continued failure of understanding statistics that undermines this point everytime someone tries to make it. Correlation is not causation. Neither is your sample size controlled enough to be remotely saying anything you want it to say. IQ isn't the only factor in these people's success. Not by a long shot, as dozens of things are influencing them both upwards and downwards beyond just their capability to learn.
More importantly, you can be successful without a high IQ. You don't need 140 IQ to be a 6 figure making success story. You just need a good enough one to not be a dribbling retard.
A guy with a mid level 100 IQ can with significant luck and effort become a doctor, which is almost certainly the case with those fresh off the boat Asians. Not often, but perfectly capable. But I'd guess you only remember the success stories and not the Asians who didn't achieve any of that and thereby don't stick out in your mind.
IQ can't really be improved in your lifetime, its mostly genetic. What can improve is your capability to wield it. Like everything else in life, you practice with the thing you want to be good with and magically you get good at using it. A guy with an average IQ might not ever reach the mega heights of a Prodigal 150 IQ Master, but he has a good chance of going further than they guy by becoming incredibly proficient at using his 100 IQ to its fullest, while the Prodigy could end up a bum by never making any real use of that 150 (and go around asking a bunch of former "Gifted" kids how often that burnout happens, because its the norm).
Discovering that academic success is ultimately meaningless and the world is a horrifyingly cruel place is a difficult mountain to climb for the 115-130 bracket.
I think worse than discovering that academic success is meaningless, is discovering that the journey of it is the only real value. As in, learning the skills, discipline and personality necessary to become moderately academically successful which are then easily transcribed to adulthood and working life.
So for those at the 130 area and above they not only got the useless prize, they also accidentally skipped the entire purpose and screwed themselves into a much worse place than someone at the 100-110 range.
No.
Intelligence has the same heritability as height.
I absolutely do not understand the friction with some people in accepting this common sense proposition. You shouldn't even have to back it up with research - it's such an obvious and basic assertion. Yet it's offensive to the degree that he (or someone) actually downvoted your comment. Why? Like I can get some debate over the "IQ" metric itself and it's applicability to real life, or not wanting to paint entire racial groups of people in broad strokes as inferior, but "Intelligence is genetic" is controversial? "Intelligence isn't measurable"? How? Evolution stops at the neck? Do these people live in the real world?
I don't want to put abra_dacabra down but I feel like he's not genuinely invested in this argument so much that he's stubbornly fortifying this metaphysical / ideological position for political purposes. "Don't let the stormfags gain one step or they'll take over the forum and hurt the conservative movement!" I must applaud his perseverance.
It's remarkable. You only need to leave the house for 5 minutes to realize that there are massive differences in intelligence between humans. That this is somehow controversial is incredible. It's just evidence of how unfathomably strong the social programming is for the majority of people. There is no other emperor as naked as this one.
And it isn't even related to stormfaggotry. It's just truth. A state of nature. Like, you can take this fact and go full commie and demand more handouts to blacks bc they can't compete on equal terms. It's not like we're saying blacks are low IQ therefore fire up the chambers. If anything, it's that blacks will underperform for as long as you fail to take this into account and plan for it, e.g. with special needs classes that teach impulse control and delaying gratification rather than gender studies and crt. The irony is that the blindfold position on intelligence does more to harm low IQ populations than pretty much any other social conviction.
Read this you dumb fuck, and keep your fucking mouth shut about things you clearly have not researched.
Heritability of IQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ
Or read some studies, you'll find plenty, like this one:
Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270739/
Heritability of height is also about 80% -> https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/traits/height/#:~:text=Scientists%20estimate%20that%20about%2080,height%20are%20only%20partially%20understood.
Turns out stupid people need stable employment just like everyone else and are prone to causing all sorts of trouble when allowed to be idle.
The IQ gap is present in every country on the planet and has always been. There are so many studies on this, in part bc so many people have desperately needed to prove this untrue. Yet the best they have so far is nitpicking methodologies to disprove the entire field on technicalities, when 1) none of their own theories or fields could withstand even 1/100000th of the scrutiny, and 2) other fields like psychology have proven a very high correlation between IQ scores and pretty much every desirable thing and positive trait, from delaying gratification and mental stability, to crime and violence, to academic achievement and financial success.
You need to explain why the richest and best educated blacks are lower IQ than the poor whites and asians. You need to explain why it's specifically the low 80s regardless of culture, country, continent, society, money or education. Or lower in places with less than ideal support systems. Nevermind fucking employment.
In some African countries the average IQ is in the fucking 40s. Employment.... lol