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I absolutely despise "positive psychology" and the whole "gratefulness" and "wellness" sector. Being forced to sit through a whole day of "training" on this. This article sums up just how toxic that all is, and why... (archive.is)
posted 3 years ago by bamboozler1 3 years ago by bamboozler1 +37 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

It's an attempt to bury the problems they're creating. They can't actually solve them since that would involving crossing very powerful groups. Think about how many social problems could be easily solved if "Thou shall not inconvenience any woman under any circumstance" wasn't treated as the zeroth commandment of public policy.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Mass immigration harms men and women yet it continues.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

It's not only about women, I'm just using them as an example. But honestly I don't think women give a shit about the harms of mass migration. All they care about is being able to kill their offspring so they can continue whoring around.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Trump won white women in 2016 when he pretended to care about immigration.

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– bamboozler1 [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

You should have seen this morning. Devolved into an utter shitshow, and they kicked out people who arced up about the "white male" insults, and now they're telling the rest of us we can't even talk about it...

Of course the sheeple just go along with that, too. Because of course...

I fucking hate sheeple.

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– deleted 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0
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– bamboozler1 [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Well it's a course. They're not paying me, though nor am I paying them. But yeah.

I just left the Zoom, did the work on my own, and came back after the fighting was mostly done. And now they're all just being good little compliant sheep, verbally patting the instructors on the back and refusing to acknowledge any alternate viewpoints, while pretending this morning never happened...

But yeah, just aiming to get through it, now. Fuck them.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

So I actually voiced a complaint about the video being preachy and useless, and the only response we got was that "Yes, hearing from a privileged white male may not be appropriate. I will find a better video on the same topic from a woman of colour I know who has experienced extensive trauma."

That pissed me off. So much so, that I've decided to take the rest of the morning session off, and come back later when the stupid racist bitch has shut up. Because, to put it simply, fuck her.

I'll just do the work on my own. I'm not sticking around to listen to bullshit like that.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Ooga booga, this was the video this stupid racist told us privileged huwhite males who complained that we have to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrKE2vMamA4

This shit is becoming like a parody of itself...

I fucking hate self-hating whites, including ones like this "instructor" who think that couching their misandry in a veil of woke "antiracism" somehow makes it "acceptable"...

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– Adamrises 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

You think its bad in your training. I did a full degree in Psychology. Wherein it was me and 29~ girls in each class, almost all of which adored Positive Psyche.

I loathe "unconditional positive regard" (that's how its taught in the multidiscipline as a foundational requirement) as a concept. I see its value in terms of helping someone open up and maintaining the relationship, but it should absolutely not be a 100% of the time thing.

But the people who love it and "benefit" the most from it are women with massive self confidence issues. Funnily enough, they make up the bulk of both the Psyche field as a whole and its clients. So its women telling women what they want to hear, making smiles and thinking that's having a tangible benefit on their life. Without ever asking "so when am I actually finished with therapy? when does it complete?" and instead thinking its a positive trait that they are in it for a lifetime.

And despite what many may think, most psychologists aren't in it for the money. This isn't a 4D chess scheme to keep them hooked and the money flowing. Most therapists don't make shit, unless they are in the super rich areas with rich clients, and are genuinely deluded on the "I'm helping people" train. They aren't really helping, but it makes them "feel good" and therefore it must be good.

The capitalistic ones are the psychiatrists. The guys with the pills and the marketing scheme, who definitely want your kid to have 3 diagnosis that all need treating.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Also of note, the simps were all, I kid you not, wannabe games artists and developers…

Which says something, doesn’t it, lol?

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– NoEyesNoGroin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's incompetent women deluding each other about what they are, all the way down.

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– Adamrises 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The problem for me is that at the heart, there are guys doing good work and trying to pull us forward as a society. But as soon as their work leaves their hands, its twisted by these broken women trying to heal others while bleeding all over them.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

“Virtue is more to be feared than vice, because its excesses are not subject to the regulation of conscience.” - Adam Smith

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Under that logic, we shouldn't be allowed guns because bad people might take the guns and use them for bad too even though the majority of people using them are doing so for virtuous means.

Pithy quotes about philosophy should be even more feared. For that terminate thoughts by letting someone else do the thinking for you divorced of any context from which they said it in the first place.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

From a purely psychological perspective, today was an interesting little Millgram test, because you could see how some of the males in the course were willing to turn on their own entire gender and/or race, in order to score a few “brownie points” (lol) with this bitch of a teacher…

They’d be the first to throw one of us “dissidents” under the bus, quite literally, if so ordered, I’m sure of it…

And indeed they did that today, when one “white male” dared to clap back at the instructor…

So much so that he found himself backed up more by a couple of women, than by his fellow (simp) males…

Crazy.

This is why I hate suck-ups, though, because that is how they behave, and that is what they do…

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– Adamrises 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That's how most of the Psyche training program is. Where sometimes the single dude in the class is either so broken he will sell out his own gender just because he hates it that much, or recognizes he can be drowning in pussy if he says the right thing.

Also, as a nitpick. The Millgram experiment is mostly just a media meme. It was a failure through and through, which is why they had to straight up lie about the data when they sold it to the public. Most people were suspicious from pretty early on, and something like 2/3 of them disobeyed. And of the one's that didn't, a quite a few needed to be outright threatened and browbeat into continuing. Which changes the willingness factor considerably.

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– ArtemisFoul 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I keep wondering about the Milgram experiment. On one hand, it was probably bullshit, yeah.

But on the other hand, it took place in the 1960s. Having witnessed how the average goyim cattle acted over the last 3 years during the coof psycho (and later with Ukraine) really got my wheels turning.

I remember the H1N1 (IIRC) epidemic in 2009 or so. Our government tried to pull something like "Corona-light", they bought a bunch of shots and were talking about how they were going to mandate them for emergency services and seniors etc. The whole nation said "lol fuck off", the government ended up collapsing, about 50k of the ~1 million shots were taken, pretty much all of them by very old people who get flu shots yearly anyway, and the rest was quietly destroyed after expiring, long after everyone forgot about it.

And then, just a little bit over a decade later, The Coof happened. About 10% of people revealed themselves to be overt psychopaths, frothing at the mouth demanding full obedience from everyone else and the destruction of anyone who showed a spine and resisted, and another 50% or so of the population were completely apathetic as the state abused us all and officials lied into our faces.

Something horrible has happened over the last decade, and I really wonder what a proper repeat of the Milgram experiment would look like today. Or maybe I don't, maybe we've already seen it happen on a civilization-wide scale.

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Its not that Millgram is completely off the mark, its that in a purely neutral "authority" only experiment most people will resist it heavily.

Once you introduce politics, class schisms, and other hierarchies its almost unnecessary to study because we already know what will happen. Dehumanization, tribalism, and all that jazz makes the "authority" part irrelevant.

Which is what the Coof did. You saw how instantly it was made into a political divide. Because that allowed them to not only make it extremely more brutal than it would otherwise in enforcement, but also "its different when my side does it." Because simply saying "Fauci said X" wouldn't have done much, he was a fucking legendary monster for the Gays who lived through AIDs. They had to say "anyone who resists this is Right wing, hates science and probably is racist" to get the desired result.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I can't stand that "McWellfulness" bullshit either.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

That Youtube video actually made me genuinely angry, so yeah, lol...

It's everywhere, this shit, too...

It's like "If we force it down everyone's throat, they'll have to agree with us!"

Fuck...

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I sometimes wonder if it's a psyop to piss us off. I almost would rather that be the case instead of people pushing this because they were genuinely inspired by it at some point.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

See my other comment...

Same bitch who pushed this followed it up by insulting us as "privileged white males". That was her response to us saying the video was shit.

So I decided she can get fucked, lol.

So yeah, if the aim was to piss me off, it certainly worked, lol...

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Can you sue or something over her saying that?

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Seems that they escalated while I took time out, lol. It's males vs females now (most people are white, so it didn't break down that way), or indeed "woke females" vs the rest of us...

And then the instructors basically told us all to shut the fuck up, and how dare we dislike what they have to say. Because they believe they can get away with that.

Absolutely disgraceful.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Sounds insanely passive aggressive

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– bamboozler1 [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yeah. One of the other (female, of course) participants told me to shut up and pretend it never happened, now...

Because that's totally an appropriate way to handle this. Not...

Fuck these people, honestly.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Haha I wish. But nah, they don't give a shit.

If we get a chance to give "feedback" (which they will no doubt ignore), that's about the best I can give, unfortunately..

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Ugh, I know the feeling.

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– thepalagoon 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

This is honestly the first time I am hearing about this bullshit and... I honestly struggle to care.

The realm of TED talks and academics patting themselves on the back and writing coffee table books is not the real world. Of course these idiots are charlatans -- "happiness advantage" -- what a crock of shit!

This has no bearing on most people with actual psychological issues. You would never tell them to ignore issues or minimize them while working through it.

Just more mental junk food for the feminized and lazy academic class.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Oh believe me, that precise discussion was had, this morning, in this course, and indirectly resulted in the biggest Zoom shit-fight I have ever seen…

So while I completely agree with you, you’d be surprised at how heavily this shit is being pushed, if today’s experience is any example…

I tried to argue pretty much what you just said, only to end up being called a “privileged white male” (by the instructor, no less)…

It was nuts.

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– thepalagoon 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I am not surprised how hard this is being pushed.

Here's how I see it: everyone sees how bad things are. Everyone with two neurons to bump together can see we are headed for some bad times... but no one knows exactly where or when the dominoes are gonna start to fall.

Go watch some old clips of South Park where people stuck their heads in the ground to ignore the world. There is your "positive psychology."

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– thepalagoon 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It is a problem, and it is affecting us.

We can fight it, which may be a futile effort... or we can just bide our time until the system collapses under their own hubris.

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– CatoTheElder 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

psychologist Susan David

American Psychological Association President Martin Seligman

Dr. Barbara Held, author of Stop Smiling, Start Kvetching

The entire field is jewish and needs to be eradicated.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Head instructor (not the crazy racist one. Though she did just go on a rant about the gender thing - "not assuming based on name") just said she has been "partnerless" for 35 years, to the surprise of no one...

And then went on about how she hates all the men she goes on "dates" with (must be in her late 60s, at least), and how they're all old and fat...

Sigh My life is like some weird book of clown world characters, at this point, lol...

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– Ender910 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Might make some great inspiration for a comic strip. Unfortunately, exposing reality, and worse, mocking the absurdity of it, usually leads to deplatforming.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Here's the original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXy__kBVq1M&t=154s

I cringe...

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– Ender910 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

What in the living hell kind of so-called "traumatic" experience was she describing in the first few minutes there? That has to be the most idiotic and lameass "nothing burger" example for her to cite as a case of so-called "trauma".

I mean I get that "mountain out of molehill" experiences early in life can leave ripple effects on us later in life, but that is not an example that I think could ever hold up to serious scrutiny. And... she devolves into even more floaty toaty fluff devoid of logic or meaning.

And the NPC's in the YT comments are clapping along like mindless seals, lmao.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah. That's the level we're talking about here...

It can only possibly be "traumatic" because she is a "WOC" (or whatever the "correct" acronym is), and because she does tick that box, we're all supposed to take that seriously...

This whole shit nearly broke the entire course today, and devolved into a shit fight that lasted over an hour. Now we're basically all not talking to one another (except me and a few other less insane ones). Madness.

All because the dumb bitch instructor deliberately slagged off white males, and the white males took umbrage to that.

Honestly, in her mind, it was probably a "purity test", or some bullshit. There's no way she said, in effect, "privileged white males should shut up and get to the back of the queue", without anticipating backlash.

She absolutely knew what she was doing.

For those Jew-seekers out there, pretty sure the woman in question was almost certainly Jewish. Because of course.

Upper middle class? Tick. Hates Christians? Tick. Appearance? Tick. Fake "hippie" bullshit, and "You can't criticise me! Words are violence!" Tick.

Stereotype, much...

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– Ender910 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Honestly? I wouldn't put it past some of these zealots to not realize that what they're saying might piss people off. When they've got their heads so deep into a mindset centered around nonsensical bullshit, their awareness level can be pretty low.

Wouldn't make her any less guilty though, and in either case, it's clear she cares more about pushing and spreading the woke "gospel" than she is about helping anyone learn anything of actual value.

You have a better vantage point to assess how deliberate she likely was though, so I'll certainly take your word for it. These monsters just have the weirdest headspaces to try and understand sometimes.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Honestly, you could be right…

But it wasn’t just an offhand comment. She then doubled down, attacked those of who called her out, and played victim for the entire rest of the day…

Then they shut down the chat, so we couldn’t communicate to one another (i.e. us participants), because they decided it was “nasty” and “hostile”, after we dared to call her out…

But you may be right. I don’t know, I’ve been observing her behaviour and the things she has said (see also, the gender thing) these last few days… While I do absolutely think she is a committed ideologue, I also think she genuinely views people like me as less than dirt, lol, so it fits…

Who knows. Either way, it, and the response to it more importantly, were absolutely fucking unacceptable, lol…

Though maybe it was worth it, for the pathetic zoomers and millennials crying and breaking down when the insults came back their way, lol…

It was farcical.

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– Ender910 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Aye, I bet.

It is such a crazy contrast to the kind of nutty drama I remember putting up with at school or at early jobs where I worked.

Heck, just as an example, my environmentalist biology teacher welcomed criticism from students, though he sometimes had to encourage students to offer up ideas or arguments before or after class so it wouldn't be too disruptive to lesson plans.

I very much doubt you'd ever see a left-leaning teacher today be even remotely open or cordial to any friendly debate.

I think part of what makes their ideology so much more angry these days is because they've been brainwashed and regularly fed the idea that "these people" are the ones causing all the problems in the world. Cost of living? The economy? Society? Job market? Laws? Policies? Elections? Blame the w, x, y, z (straight white, male capitalists, Christians, etc etc). And then they go around selectively blaming everyone else except for banks and global mega corporations. Or any of their own corrupt politicians.

And most of all? They never, ever blame themselves (neither as individuals nor as a political-ideological group) for anything.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

In the end, I think it comes down to a superiority complex. Like, exactly as you say, she never admitted fault, or apologised. Instead she doubled down, and then played the victim.

Because, I very much suspect, she genuinely sees herself as "superior" to proles like me, and so, if we won't be suitably and effectively brainwashed, then why shouldn't she treat us like utter shit? After all, us huwhite males deserve nothing else, right (as the simps today pretty much agreed)..?

Man, what a fucking clown world situation. Just like you describe...

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– Ender910 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Based on other details you've described, I think you're right.

It's honestly a wonder that these people manage to land paying jobs at all. I guess it doesn't help matters when the employers are just as batshit crazy and see no problem at all.

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– deleted 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0
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– Assassin47 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

And if the thing you want to accomplish seems out of reach, try to set some smaller goal and accomplish that, then gradually work up to the more difficult tasks. It's like getting fit, or learning something new. Even just making a plan and sticking to it for a long time builds confidence.

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– Adamrises 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Even just making a plan

Making a plan and never fucking talking about it.

That's the part that fails most people, especially in the social media generation. Your brain gives you roughly the same amount of positive hits and satisfaction from telling people about the plan as it does *doing the plan. Which means your lazy brain will absolutely try for the one that involves typing for 2 minutes instead of the multiweek struggle to get the same hit.

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– BetterNameUnfound 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

...I needed to hear this.

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You're not alone.

Reflecting on some unflattering moments in my past right about now.

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