a "betabux" isnt so much what he has, but what he is. A $40k earning "beta" will still let some thot walk all over him and give her everything he owns, and control of [their] his finances.
The last one is going to do most of the narrowing. Not obese would eliminate 2/3 of all women, although the stats might be a bit better for the 25-30 group. There is a calculator for women somewhere, but I don't have a link unfortunately. I remember seeing a bunch of women circle jerking about how men's requirements eliminate all but 20% or so of women. The hilarious part is women's requirements left a fraction of a percent of men. But somehow men are the picky ones.
That's the thing about the 80/20 rule (although there's evidence that it's more like the 95/5 rule these days). It's not the top x% of men, it's the top x% of every single category which is how you get those tiny numbers for women. When a woman wants, say, a man who's 6' or taller that's not a problem on its own. That's about the 85th percentile, so they still have 15% left to choose from. It's not a huge proportion, but it's doable if height is the most important thing and she's willing to compromise on other qualities. That means she might have have to accept a face that's not male model tier, a body that doesn't belong to a roided up douchebag, or a sub-$100k income. Of course she won't compromise on those other qualities, because she feels entitled to gigachad. When women say they can't find good men, what they really mean is the only men offering her commitment are icky betas instead of the gigachad that feminism has taught her that she's owed.
remember seeing a bunch of women circle jerking about how men's requirements eliminate all but 20% or so of women. The hilarious part is women's requirements left a fraction of a percent of men. But somehow men are the picky ones.
what men find physically attractive in a woman varries much more than what women find attractive in men. No women like short men, no women like skinny [scrawny] men, no women like pudgy/dad-bod men. The "free because you are the product they are selling" dating site OK Cupid used to have a blog that analyzed everything about its users, turns out men rate womens attractiveness on a bell curve, and women rate 80% of all men "less than average" attractiveness.
Women in general dont have the self reflection to understand they are all chasing these top 1%ers of men and if they want to keep him for a lifetime and not just one night they have to be a top woman themselves. But they are told since before they are teenagers that they are perfect and dont need to change or improve anything.
Also both men and women do this: they believe what they find attractive in the opposite sex, the opposite sex finds attractive in them. Women think men find a tall, aggressive, highly educated, world traveled/experienced, career driven woman attractive because it is what they find attractive in men. And men, however cliche it is, think women like men who are "nice".... surprisingly that trait is very low on womens list of desires, and ask any woman about her ex, she will without a doubt say he was "an abusive jerk".... you dated him sweetheart, what does that say about what you desire in a man?
Its a sad state of affairs modern dating has become
nope, I dont care about big floppy tits. just "not obese" natural tits are perfect if they fit her frame, meaning: if a woman is a corn-fed "laborer" body type, a broad shouldered midwestern kind, she would look mannish if she didnt have tits to fill her out.
i would instead add "not ran through" or "not a bitch" / "nice" / "feminine"
Even with those criteria, a large chunk are still going to be insane. It's not the raw numbers that matter; you could find plenty. Whether the ones you find are worth anything is the real question.
I already posted that link and this is cope. Women have a huge selection of broken simps churned out by their generation of control of the education system.
They do, and they eventually "settle " for one of those simps when they can't lock down the gigachad they feel entitled to. Then they divorce rape his ass.
Yes, women go sniffing around for a beta to enslave and divorce rape when they can't lock down the alpha they feel entitled to. Usually after tricking him into raising a kid that isn't his. Pretty much anyone can date in their 30s. It just doesn't end well for the man if he's not the kind of guy she would have went for in her 20s. The more I watch this slow motion train wreck the more I'm convinced that massively growing number of single men is the least bad option. They may think that they want to date but they're so much better off this way.
i have to comment that chances are far lower because such men are the way they are by avoiding being found
Definitely. A man is far more likely to have his life in order if a homewrecking whore hasn't destroyed his future in family court. Avoiding homewrecking whores in the first place is how men keep their lives in order.
She will use you to have kids while she still can, and then she will leave you, take your house and your money and you will be lucky if you ever see those kids again.
Okay my favorite thing about the tool is that you have to actively check a box to exclude guys who are already married. What does THAT say about “female dating strategy” lolololol
Guy who got married was clearly doing something right, since he convinced at least one woman to commit to him. Removes some of the chance and mystery about his quality.
Its basic shopping strategy, just immorally selfish.
OK but it's not like the pickings are very good for the handful of men who meet this criteria looking for a woman with comparable characteristics:
No kids
Would be a good mother
Not run through
Not obese
If you look younger (say 20-30) than you have, in addition to above:
Not annoying as shit
Into older guys without it being due to something weird
I know a couple guys who got married in their mid 30s and who met all these criteria, and there were still tradeoffs involved in their mate selection. Not like they were banging the co-ed Marketing intern or something like that.
No. You're wrong. It's not the same. Old men hugely want young girls & the reverse is not at all true.
100% of the girls I've met into older guys were crazy. Not 1 was totally normal & well adjusted mentally. No normal girl is going to be 18 wanting to date a dude 35+ unless his name is Leonardo DiCaprio.
Men have choices if they're in the top percentile of men. If you're not, your value is the same as it ever was - zero. Ask the growing number of men who are posting about their experiences of being single in their 40s with no options left, not even being a "beta bux" male for a single mother.
The advice to young single men of wait until your thirties only somewhat applies to that top percentile of men and ignores a critical aspect of men that women value - pre-selection proven via experience. That's why divorced men have better outcomes for dating in middle age compared to long term single men, they have the proof and can show the experience.
You guys are going to love this, lol: https://igotstandardsbro.com/
Savage. Even the nondescript white dude is nearly unattainable:
2.9% - 3/5 Aspiring cat lady
Cut the earnings to $40k and it is still 5.9% overall (9.4% for whites).
Wow. Even betabux is increasingly unobtainable for these entitled whores. It serves them right.
a "betabux" isnt so much what he has, but what he is. A $40k earning "beta" will still let some thot walk all over him and give her everything he owns, and control of [their] his finances.
I like how the slider for income has $100,000 almost all the way to the left.
is there one for women? i want to know how fucked everything is.
height - doesnt matter
income - doesnt matter
education - preferably NOT college educated
age - 25-30
weight - not obese
As a plumber or mechanic would say, “here’s yer problem”
yeah i know
The last one is going to do most of the narrowing. Not obese would eliminate 2/3 of all women, although the stats might be a bit better for the 25-30 group. There is a calculator for women somewhere, but I don't have a link unfortunately. I remember seeing a bunch of women circle jerking about how men's requirements eliminate all but 20% or so of women. The hilarious part is women's requirements left a fraction of a percent of men. But somehow men are the picky ones.
That's the thing about the 80/20 rule (although there's evidence that it's more like the 95/5 rule these days). It's not the top x% of men, it's the top x% of every single category which is how you get those tiny numbers for women. When a woman wants, say, a man who's 6' or taller that's not a problem on its own. That's about the 85th percentile, so they still have 15% left to choose from. It's not a huge proportion, but it's doable if height is the most important thing and she's willing to compromise on other qualities. That means she might have have to accept a face that's not male model tier, a body that doesn't belong to a roided up douchebag, or a sub-$100k income. Of course she won't compromise on those other qualities, because she feels entitled to gigachad. When women say they can't find good men, what they really mean is the only men offering her commitment are icky betas instead of the gigachad that feminism has taught her that she's owed.
what men find physically attractive in a woman varries much more than what women find attractive in men. No women like short men, no women like skinny [scrawny] men, no women like pudgy/dad-bod men. The "free because you are the product they are selling" dating site OK Cupid used to have a blog that analyzed everything about its users, turns out men rate womens attractiveness on a bell curve, and women rate 80% of all men "less than average" attractiveness.
Women in general dont have the self reflection to understand they are all chasing these top 1%ers of men and if they want to keep him for a lifetime and not just one night they have to be a top woman themselves. But they are told since before they are teenagers that they are perfect and dont need to change or improve anything.
Also both men and women do this: they believe what they find attractive in the opposite sex, the opposite sex finds attractive in them. Women think men find a tall, aggressive, highly educated, world traveled/experienced, career driven woman attractive because it is what they find attractive in men. And men, however cliche it is, think women like men who are "nice".... surprisingly that trait is very low on womens list of desires, and ask any woman about her ex, she will without a doubt say he was "an abusive jerk".... you dated him sweetheart, what does that say about what you desire in a man?
Its a sad state of affairs modern dating has become
As a man of culture, I would like to suggest some form of "Measurements" also be added. For science.
nope, I dont care about big floppy tits. just "not obese" natural tits are perfect if they fit her frame, meaning: if a woman is a corn-fed "laborer" body type, a broad shouldered midwestern kind, she would look mannish if she didnt have tits to fill her out.
i would instead add "not ran through" or "not a bitch" / "nice" / "feminine"
but that is too much to ask I guess.
I mean, some of us do still have standards. What if we're only looking for someone with a tiny body and small tits?
Hold on the FBI is at my door.
Even with those criteria, a large chunk are still going to be insane. It's not the raw numbers that matter; you could find plenty. Whether the ones you find are worth anything is the real question.
You shouldn't be carrying women over the age of 20. Thats asking for problems.
Just playing around with the "exclude obese" setting has a huge (kek) impact. It seems like it's worth an extra bag of litter all by itself.
I already posted that link and this is cope. Women have a huge selection of broken simps churned out by their generation of control of the education system.
They do, and they eventually "settle " for one of those simps when they can't lock down the gigachad they feel entitled to. Then they divorce rape his ass.
Most 37 year old women aren’t trying to bring a simping 23 year old or some lame dude that falls outside of these stats to the holiday office party.
Yes, women go sniffing around for a beta to enslave and divorce rape when they can't lock down the alpha they feel entitled to. Usually after tricking him into raising a kid that isn't his. Pretty much anyone can date in their 30s. It just doesn't end well for the man if he's not the kind of guy she would have went for in her 20s. The more I watch this slow motion train wreck the more I'm convinced that massively growing number of single men is the least bad option. They may think that they want to date but they're so much better off this way.
The fact that I’m so much better than such a huge percentage of the population is both gratifying and terrifying.
bear in mind it's only the single population.
Definitely. A man is far more likely to have his life in order if a homewrecking whore hasn't destroyed his future in family court. Avoiding homewrecking whores in the first place is how men keep their lives in order.
She will use you to have kids while she still can, and then she will leave you, take your house and your money and you will be lucky if you ever see those kids again.
Feeling lucky are we? Chances are she tricks you into raising Chad's kid. Everything else is spot on.
i am... the 1%?
I am the 0.5% apparently. Feels good.
You are the unicorn of well-greased mustelids. Enjoy it.
Okay my favorite thing about the tool is that you have to actively check a box to exclude guys who are already married. What does THAT say about “female dating strategy” lolololol
Guy who got married was clearly doing something right, since he convinced at least one woman to commit to him. Removes some of the chance and mystery about his quality.
Its basic shopping strategy, just immorally selfish.
OK but it's not like the pickings are very good for the handful of men who meet this criteria looking for a woman with comparable characteristics:
If you look younger (say 20-30) than you have, in addition to above:
I know a couple guys who got married in their mid 30s and who met all these criteria, and there were still tradeoffs involved in their mate selection. Not like they were banging the co-ed Marketing intern or something like that.
Your search has yielded 0 results.
Lots of women like older guys, the same way lots of men like younger gals.
No. You're wrong. It's not the same. Old men hugely want young girls & the reverse is not at all true.
100% of the girls I've met into older guys were crazy. Not 1 was totally normal & well adjusted mentally. No normal girl is going to be 18 wanting to date a dude 35+ unless his name is Leonardo DiCaprio.
^ just outed yourself as a boomer.
Your choices are daddy hugged her too much, or not enough. There isn't a winning middle with girls, so pick your poison or go gay.
Men have choices if they're in the top percentile of men. If you're not, your value is the same as it ever was - zero. Ask the growing number of men who are posting about their experiences of being single in their 40s with no options left, not even being a "beta bux" male for a single mother.
The advice to young single men of wait until your thirties only somewhat applies to that top percentile of men and ignores a critical aspect of men that women value - pre-selection proven via experience. That's why divorced men have better outcomes for dating in middle age compared to long term single men, they have the proof and can show the experience.