And Vivek makes great points about companies and the stupidity of businesses going woke. Didn’t know he was a sycophant. I can definitely see Desantis hitting Trump about Covid immediately
During this Presidential run, Vivek has constantly attacked Governor DeSantis as "establishment" while praising Trump as an "outsider".
This is absolutely true. DeSantis issued a pretty reasonable response to Tucker about Ukraine, but then revised after his donors/GOP leadership clearly threw a fit. Very disappointing.
Wow, so he did something that he has no power to do, as a pure virtue signal.
The Bud Light boycott was/is retarded. All the pro-woman bullshit is. Don't say you're protecting kids when you won't confront the woman-led school system.
FL's current pension fund has J&J as their seventh largest holding, after all of Big Tech and Exxon-Mobil.
We're really going to take what Trump said several months into the whole ordeal when no one knew what the fuck was going on at the time and hang that over his head? Okay, sure, let's also just pretend that DeSantis never pushed the vaccine early on.
the whole thing is out of context, because the only lockdown trump did was shutting down international travel. everything else was done by states, and each state did their own policies.
rural areas especially in florida, texas, georgia, and all the flyover states changed nothing. there were some churches that started doing livecasts online or by loudspeaker, and some people watched or listened from their cars, but that was mostly just old people in fear... not actual lockdown policy.
for example, florida had a phased lockdown. the heaviest restrictions were barely enforced against anyone (mainly just restaurants), and the restrictions ended in late april / early may... of 2020. bars fully re-opened a month later. i know a gazillion people who moved to pretty much anywhere other than miami (because miami was doing lockdowns), and their northern blue cities still on fucking lockdown deep into the middle of 2021. the only other state with a better covid response was probably wyoming, which didn't have a lockdown at all.
It is not daddy government's job to protect me from a virus. Even if it was the black plague, top down mandates on where we can go and what we can do will be nothing more than a power grab.
I suspected literally Day 1. I at the time allowed for me potentially being wrong, but I certainly strongly suspected it was bullshit, and was quite vocal about it very early.
But to open everything up and allow a mostly unknown disease to spread would have collapsed the economy anyway. People would have stayed home out of fear.
The sheer number of infected would have made the death rate look higher than it actually was.
Allowing the government to do things like lock downs "because of an emergency" just creates imperative for them to create another "emergency" in the future. You can't allow the government something so easily abused, especially when it's not even the government's job in the first place.
People only thought it was a "death sentence" because the government and the media did everything they could to make it look like one. It's why they forced old folks homes to take in residents that tested positive. It's also why they counted anyone who might've had the wuhan flu as a death caused by it, even if the cause of death was something completely unrelated, like a car crash.
"But, those businesses will lose money from opening with no customers and being forced to pay expenses as normal."
This take is completely backwards. The lock downs did far more harm to businesses than ending them. Their expenses didn't go away with the customers when they were forced to shut down.
On a primary debate stage the other candidates would be foolish not to attack him on this or Fauci.
Don't worry, at least one candidate will do that.
Governor Ron DeSantis will have to be that man.
Vivek Clownasamy and Nikki No Dignity Haley are both running as Trump sycophants so they clearly won't be doing it.
And Vivek makes great points about companies and the stupidity of businesses going woke. Didn’t know he was a sycophant. I can definitely see Desantis hitting Trump about Covid immediately
Vivek sadly destroyed his entire reputation with this Presidential run.
I cannot believe that I even thought he was a smart guy when it looked like he was actually standing up against ESG and wokeness.
During this Presidential run, Vivek has constantly attacked Governor DeSantis as "establishment" while praising Trump as an "outsider".
I have lost all respect for him once it was revealed that he is merely a grifter who is in the race to grift off the MAGAs.
This is absolutely true. DeSantis issued a pretty reasonable response to Tucker about Ukraine, but then revised after his donors/GOP leadership clearly threw a fit. Very disappointing.
That is disappointing. Been listening to his interviews for a while and liked a lot of what he was saying
Listen to Vivek, not these clowns.
Way I see it, we have 3 potentially good candidates.
Vivek is a grifter. Lots of "right wing" grifters memorize all the correct lines to say to get the zoomers eating out of their hands.
And as you point out, Vivek has also acted as Donald Trump's press secretary during what is supposedly his own run.
That is a great way to describe Vivek's run!
Vivek strikes me as an even more socially awkward and Indian version of Blake Masters.
He just doesn't have any appeal to older voters.
Vivek only appeals to the brainless zoomers who still religiously watch Trump sycophants like Robert Barnes, Richard Baris and RedEaglePolitics.
DeSantis is establishment.
Wasn't he supposed to fight ESG? Dumping a few hundred BlackRock shares isn't fighting ESG, it's lip service.
DeSantis banned CBDCs in Florida while Trump impotently raged about the 2020 election on Truth social.
It is clear to me who is effective in fighting against the establishment.
In your eyes the outsider is the guy whose son wants us to stop the conservative boycott of Budlight.
Disclosures show Trump has stock in Pfizer and J&J, this is why he still refuses to admit Operation Warpspeed and the lockdowns were a mistake.
I can see whose actions show being aligned with the establishment and it is not DeSantis.
Wow, so he did something that he has no power to do, as a pure virtue signal.
The Bud Light boycott was/is retarded. All the pro-woman bullshit is. Don't say you're protecting kids when you won't confront the woman-led school system.
FL's current pension fund has J&J as their seventh largest holding, after all of Big Tech and Exxon-Mobil.
Run DeStandwithIsraelantis
Oh, sweet! A psyop thread!
We're really going to take what Trump said several months into the whole ordeal when no one knew what the fuck was going on at the time and hang that over his head? Okay, sure, let's also just pretend that DeSantis never pushed the vaccine early on.
Sweden won, get over it
Most of us knew from the start it was a scamdemic, and we didn't even power and money, just common sense.
So yeah, when he pushed the shot and lockdowns for a long time, he should get absolutely blasted for it.
But Trump isn't admitting he was wrong, he's attacking the governor who opened up and is claiming Ron was a big lockdowner.
If Trump owned his mistakes instead of DARVOing it wouldn't be a big issue.
the whole thing is out of context, because the only lockdown trump did was shutting down international travel. everything else was done by states, and each state did their own policies.
rural areas especially in florida, texas, georgia, and all the flyover states changed nothing. there were some churches that started doing livecasts online or by loudspeaker, and some people watched or listened from their cars, but that was mostly just old people in fear... not actual lockdown policy.
for example, florida had a phased lockdown. the heaviest restrictions were barely enforced against anyone (mainly just restaurants), and the restrictions ended in late april / early may... of 2020. bars fully re-opened a month later. i know a gazillion people who moved to pretty much anywhere other than miami (because miami was doing lockdowns), and their northern blue cities still on fucking lockdown deep into the middle of 2021. the only other state with a better covid response was probably wyoming, which didn't have a lockdown at all.
You don't get anywhere in politics in admitting you're wrong.
Should make for a fun debate.
Have we learned nothing from the past...what are we on, nine years now? Never apologize.
Post Reported for: Rule 12 - Falsehoods
Post Approved: He said what he said, idk what you want me to do about that.
Best I can tell you is the whole "if we disagree", which is typical Trump speak of making his own position intentionally more vague.
Opening up in April, when nobody knew anything about the disease, would have been a mistake that fully entrenched the fear of Covid.
It was right to wait for a few weeks of data that proved it was harmless.
It is not daddy government's job to protect me from a virus. Even if it was the black plague, top down mandates on where we can go and what we can do will be nothing more than a power grab.
Most of us knew it was a scam day 1. Lockdowns and the clot shots were intentional to weaken the US.
It wasn't so clear cut as that. April, May sure. But day 1? Come on
Yeah it was. Only old people died in Italy. Only a few old people die on the cruise ship. Chinese videos were clearly fake.
Easy to say with hindsight!
No, it was easy to say at the time too.
I don't know why the fuck you people think nobody could have ever known, when we did
Lol we didn't though
Well yeah. Obviously you didn't. Your lack of critical thought isn't a problem for me though.
I suspected literally Day 1. I at the time allowed for me potentially being wrong, but I certainly strongly suspected it was bullshit, and was quite vocal about it very early.
But you could tell the media loved hyping up covid even back then.
But to open everything up and allow a mostly unknown disease to spread would have collapsed the economy anyway. People would have stayed home out of fear.
The sheer number of infected would have made the death rate look higher than it actually was.
At the very least once he saw the cdc encourage rioters and looting he should’ve called out the hypocrisy
Allowing the government to do things like lock downs "because of an emergency" just creates imperative for them to create another "emergency" in the future. You can't allow the government something so easily abused, especially when it's not even the government's job in the first place.
This boot licking right here is why we broke away from your empire. Get fucked Redcoat.
Advisor 1 : "There's an unknown virus that everyone thinks is a death sentence"
You : "Open everything."
Advisor 2 : "But, those businesses will lose money from opening with no customers and being forced to pay expenses as normal."
You : "Don't care. Open everything"
People only thought it was a "death sentence" because the government and the media did everything they could to make it look like one. It's why they forced old folks homes to take in residents that tested positive. It's also why they counted anyone who might've had the wuhan flu as a death caused by it, even if the cause of death was something completely unrelated, like a car crash.
This take is completely backwards. The lock downs did far more harm to businesses than ending them. Their expenses didn't go away with the customers when they were forced to shut down.
You are the biggest Trump bootlicker here, holy fucking shit.
What a braindead clown you are.