Episode 5 of House of Dragons is when the show definitively went to shit. The writing and plot took such a nose dive I had to look up who the writer was. It's some dumb instagram looking thot, Charmaine DeGraté, apparently 33 years old with no credits except for some child acting. She's an idiot who can't write, and it shows. Nothing in this episode makes sense, and all of it was written from the standpoint of producing "oOoOo dRaMa" reactions in simpleminded folk. It is the quintessential example of female writing.
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Black guy playing a canonically white character, having been offscreen eps 3-4 hopefully never to return, not only comes back ep5, but he brings his GAY black son with him.
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Literally everyone knows the son is gay and no one cares. black dad says "he'll grow out of it, there is no pleasure in life like bedding a 丅卄工匚匚 white woman". When I was watching this with my GF and I saw how there was 0 reaction to the son being gay, I jokingly said "lol he'll grow out of it" and that was the next line. Holy shit.
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Matt Smith dressed as a warlock in a bathrobe appears in the middle of nowhere when his wife is riding alone. He just stands there trying to look like a creep doing nothing. She talks shit in a way that only a woman would be impressed by. Then, as she speculates on what evil things he might do to other people, her eyes go wide (because she put the pieces together that he was there to KILL HER, you see! even though that makes no sense), she freaks out, GRABS HER BOW (why? is this an old western quick draw shoot out? dude is unarmed and in a bath robe), shaky cam as her horse freaks too (why?) and throws her. Matt Smith did nothing except stand there. She just lies on the ground whimpering (omg guys is he gonna KILL her?! so suspense! so tension!) and he just stands there then walks away. Her response? To call him a pussy and goad him to kill her. lol what?
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It is clarified that there were no witnesses, and 0 suspicion on Matt Smith, and everyone just thinks she had a riding accident. Then, later, her uncle just outright emotionally openly accuses Matt Smith of murder with 0 evidence or basis, which would not happen, and is only being done to stir up dRaMa based on the fact that the audience knows the truth. Uhhhhhh. The uncle of course just has to sit down and it goes nowhere because duh. ffs. Also this major nobleman dude has no clue about how inheritance works and is SHOCKED to learn it for the 1st time. bEcAuSe dRaMa.
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IT GETS WORSE: main girl who looks like her mouth is always full basically says she knows the black guy is gay and says whatever bro, you can fuck dudes and I'll fuck dudes too. She tells this to her bodyguard who she fucked and he has a nervous breakdown bEcAuSe dRaMa.
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Knight dude, thinking he'd have his dick cut off and be tortured, openly confesses at the drop of a hat, then begs for death. 0 fucks given about how this would harm mumpface girl who he simps for. bEcAuSe dRaMa.
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extremely long "dancing" feast scene which exists solely as a stage for rapid fire bEcAuSe dRaMa vignettes.
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Queen is deliberately withheld so she can make a pointless GIRLBOSS™ entrance wearing green, where some rando says "ooh in her house green means gO tO wAr!!" bEcAuSe dRaMa.
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Black dude's gay lover deduces that mumpface girl's lover is her bodyguard, because - get this - her bodyguard LOOKS at her. Literal line justifying this Sherlock Holmes level deduction: "Look at him, the man is fully cuntstruck". Uhhhh.
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Black dude's gay lover then WALKS UP TO the bodyguard knight and is like "lol eyyyyy bro" and keeps dropping hints, and the knight is just saying "wtf fuck off im working" until the gay dude finally says "I'm the gay lover and I know you're the chick's lover, so let's promise not to tell these secrets", even though I went out of my way to suss out yours and I just told you mine. Wtf? Literally 0 reason for this convo to have happened except bEcAuSe dRaMa, but ironically this is realistic because gay dudes act like this irl. Though I doubt they would in a fantasy setting. I guess this is the writer's one area of expertise.
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Matt Smith does weird sexual tension shit in the dance floor with mumpface girl for no reason that goes nowhere. bEcAuSe dRaMa.
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Knight responds after some time by just randomly attacking the gay lover dude, and just punching him in the face until his face is some caved-in prop that would never, and could never, happen IRL. The face looks like what happened after a shotgun blast, not just being punched. Afterward he just walks away and nobody gives a shit. He then goes to kill himself in the garden and the queen walks in on him and the scene cuts.
I lost brain cells watching this episode. This must be what it's like to be a woman. Just respond on reflex to stupid and pointless emotional cues with no regard given whatsoever for plot or anything of substance. Just one rapid fire "oOoOOOo giiiiRL! he gon get it!" after another. Holy shit.
You kept going after episode 1?
You kept going after GoT?!
Bullshit, you are an adult who can make his own choices about what he does and does not watch regardless of what someone else wants to. Ask yourself this; If you wanted to watch something you know your partner doesn't like how long would they last watching it before: A) stopping, or B) telling you to change it. Note option B isn't "asking" you to change it.
A relationship does not mean you have to spend every waking moment with one another doing the exact same things. Time apart not only means you're not in each other's faces the whole time but also lets you develop as a person outside of your partner which is healthy for everyone. The alternative is a controlling environment where your every move is decided for you under some misguided expectation that "relationships = everything".
Makes me laugh when I hear that HOTD is far superior to Rangs of Powah and deserves a watch, even from normally decent sources like Nerdrotic or Critical Drinker. The former is true in the sense that dying by falling off a 100-story skyscraper's rooftop at least marginally beats getting a terminal case of cancer; and as for the latter, no way.
I have refused to touch anything ASOIAF since it became clear that Gurm was never, ever going to finish his story and hearing things like this, or how the very next episode apparently had a 10-year time skip (as made fairly obvious by the lead actresses changing) and doesn't explain the metric fucktons of plot/character development that must've happened in that missing decade, certainly goes a long way to making me feel vindicated.
While I watch Critical Drinker, he is too much of a coward to call out wokecasting because he wants to sell his books and he's afraid to say things like "yes, swapping races and genders is bad." He's a good example of why the Right has problems: even the people who "cater" to us are afraid to say the emperor has no clothes, and many of them even deride and mock us for doing so, making absolutely clear that they are NOT part of that mob of slavering "fans" online who backlash against these things.
HOTD is in a weird place because it’s not overtly woke in the show. It’s definitely woke, but it’s a little subtle. At least in the first two episodes I sat through. The biggest actual problem is that it seems to be written like a CW drama.
Unfortunately in episode 5 they brought in a stupid woke woman writer and let her write a dogshit episode with extra woke shit added in + it was just garbage writing in general.
I came to thread to say it's not bad. That plot is forced, but they always were. GoT was never something to think too hard about. I like tiddies and dragons.
I can't believe people were willing to give it a chance after the dumpster fire that GoT turned into.
I can't believe people were willing to give GoT a chance after the dumpster fire GRRM turned into.
I held my nose when I bought Elden Ring because of that fat slob.
At least the only tell he did anything with the writing in that game is the amount of characters with G, R or M names.
Ironically, Elden Ring has by far the worst backstory and lore of any of the From Software titles.
You weren't dazzled by the brilliance of "I didn't even change the name" Roundtable? Lazy knock-offs are all GERRM is good for.
Worse. Most like it.
It's already been to shit. Episode 2 Otto takes a party to confront Daemon, but Rhaenyra has to show up to save his party in a girlboss moment because all the dumb dumb men forgot that Daemon has a fucking dragon. Episode 3 Daemon pulls a Leroy Jenkins on the Crabfeeder, who sends out men one at a time. When Daemon is incapacitated the Crabfeeder, despite clearly suspecting a trap sends his entire army into harms way to kill a single gimped man and surprise it was a trap. This show is written for people who don't really care and just want to see dragons, girl boss and dudes finger banging their niece.
Yea GRRM approved of the race swap for some stupid reason. The books are clear on how the people of that house look. If they wanted a black character then have some summer isle traveler pass through. I’ve heard Nerdrotic say it isn’t horrible but I think that is compared to rings of power and since Game of Thrones started before the whole diversity and woke obsession this show will never live up to GOT. Heck, GOT ended horribly
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True.
Yeah their endorsement has basically been at least it's better than rings of power
Which I guess isn’t that much of an endorsement lol
GRRM approved the race swap after writing in detail how they should look.
Seems I definitely made the right choice completely dropping it after seeing episode 4.
The absolute degeneracy on display in that episode was enough for me to drop it.
To be fair (even though I haven't watched any of it, mostly on anime where I saw an evil Disney Princess do a musical yesterday) it did last longer than both she hulk and rings of power so small clap, you writers almost made it halfway through before turning to shit.
Ah the evil Disney Princess musical. Having read the novel I can't wait to binge watch season 4.
Definitely worth it even though there is skipped content (it is only 13 episodes) but makes me look forward to the film coming out as I have a feeling they may be less restricted in what they can show.
Is Fire and Blood worth reading? If so I’ll get it used. I refuse to reward that man for not finishing Ice and Fire
I found Fire and Blood to be boring.
It is purposely written to be a dry historical text.
It is not like the ASOIAF books or the Dunk and Egg series.
It is easily GRRM's worst book in the ASOIAF universe.
Thanks. I wanted to read Dunk and Egg but it still annoys me he hasn’t finished the main series and acts shocked that people want him to finish. But I’ll look for it used.
The Dunk and egg stories are good. I think you will probably enjoy them.
It is shocking that it has been 12 years since he has released a main ASOIAF BOOK.
They started the GOT show in 2011 and finished it in 2019 before he could finish one more book.
He just doesn't care.
GRRM refuses to finish the books and then has the audacity to throw a tantrum when anyone asks him about it.
He is dead to me as an author.
Yea that is what really irritates me. He spends a ton of time on side projects but gets mad when people want to know about Winds of Winter
It reminds me of Patrick Rothfuss. He's been pulling the same crap with his Kingkiller Chronicle series. It's been over ten years since the last installment of the main series, too. Anyone who asks him about the status of the third book is promptly shut down.
I'm starting to see these fantasy authors who sell their books with promise of a grand, epic series, only the stop midway through, as borderline scam artists. No one would have bought the first installments if they had known that the author would refuse to finish.
I don't think that's a scam. I think it's natural for an author whose debut novel was as successful as Rothfuss's to want to end the trilogy on the same high note that it started, and to make the perfect the enemy of the good in pursuit of that goal.
He also claimed that the whole trilogy was already written and just needed to be edited, which was clearly not true.
Also, Rothfuss' editor says that she believes that he hasn't written anything for over five years.
I'd believe that if half of book 2 wasn't fanfic about his main character outsexing the sex fairy/demon. The writing really isn't great but it's excused because "muh unreliable narrator". Rothfuss is a hack and he knows it
Same. I gave up after only a few chapters.
idk I only read the plot summaries/wiki stuff, but I'm sure you can just download it online.
Hey man, if you're not sure about spending your money, you can grab a copy in the high seas real easy. Read it on your phone, tablet or whatever. Either in PDF (ugh), EPUB or Mobi (for your kindle).
Cool. Thanks! Didn’t know that existed for books
Guessing your GF enjoyed it then. Why are you complaining. HoD and chill bruh.
it's Days of Our Lives with Dragons
Why do people keep saying 'Matt Smith' as if I'm supposed to know who that guy is?
He's a famous British actor and was Dr Who for a while.
If you don't know who Matt Smith is, you sure as fuck aren't going to know his character's name.
Besides you have the internet, so I assume you can type "matt smith" into google and see his face in 2 seconds.
Daemon Targaryen. It was mentioned on the show.
I figured it out. It's just that I find it funny that a lot of Americans can name 500 different celebrities and actors, but don't know who Charlemagne was, or Ferdinand and Isabella.
As stupid as the average american is, everyone else in every other country is just as stupid or worse. The difference in that poor, uneducated Americans are far far more likely to be on TV "man on the street" interviews (which are mostly fake because people know they need to act like idiots to make the cut so they play it up) or have an internet connection.
So people like you see a 50th percentile or below American, and compare that person to a top 10th percentile from [local country] because only the elites have internet there and know english, and incorrectly think "HAHA AMERICANS R SO DUM".
I disagree. 'Progressive education' has done a number on you, like it has done on France since 1989. You just have been swimming in idiocracy for much longer, so the effects are stronger.
Ah yes, poor people very bad, Mark Zuckerberg very good.
I don't believe those for a minute. I'm not basing it on that. I'm basing it on conversations I have with average Americans. Also that they refer to the name of actors when talking about shows. "Jon Bickerman's character". Oh well, I immediately know who that is.
No, I despise the elites.
If I ask the average European, they won't know either Charlemagne or celebrities. But Americans do know celebrities but not actually important folks. That is what I am remarking on.
It cannot be argued that on average, poor people are less intelligent.
Consider that maybe figures that are HISTORICALLY important are not ACTUALLY important or relevant to the average person's life. The average person's primary motivations are to (1) succeed in their job, (2) make friends, and (3) find a romantic partner. Knowing pop culture serves these interests by giving a higher capability for small talk. Knowing historical shit as a general rule serves no purpose to further any normie life goals.
Because most people know who Matt Smith is. Even as someone who has probably never watched anything he's ever been in, I know he played Doctor Who and some stupid terminator on the most recent stupid Terminator movie.
Technically he was Skynet in that.
How the fuck did you make to even episode 1, let alone 5?
I've only watched a few clips on youtube mocking it. Has Doctor Who banged the little white haired kid yet?
he tried but she wanted to kiss and he was like no fucking way , i;ll do you from behind so I don't have to look at your face
I am still unclear on that. And I watched every episode. It was heavily implied that they did, but then she outright said that they didn't. But that could have been a lie.