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China Claims to have material for nuclear fusion from the moon (web.archive.org)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +24 / -0
China Discovers Stunning Crystal on the Moon, Nuclear Fusion Fuel for Limitless Energy
The find makes China the third country to discover a new mineral on the Moon, and the country says it's analyzed the soil for rare helium-3.
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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

There are a lot of articles out about this. If it's true, china is about to strip mine the moon. It will promote "green" energy to other countries while doing this. If it's not true, then we will have a fake space race to strip mine the moon.

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– Kaarous 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Asteroid mining would be far more valuable in the long term.

That said I'm skeptical. The Chinese lie like breathing, and the moon is hardly a treasure trove of useful chemicals or minerals, least of all anything you could dig up with a probe.

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– Vicious_snek6 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Isn't it known to be a good source of He3 (relative to earth).

And they're talking about fusion

This part at least checks out.

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– cartoonericroberts 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It is a good source relative to earth but if fusion can be figured out at all it's probably easier just to use D-D or D-T instead of D-He.

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– BandageBandolier 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Yeah, none of the fusion stuff is news, we've known the moon is probably relatively rich in He3 and it's probably a viable fusion fuel source for years.

The only new thing is the novel mineral structure, which is very likely useless and irrelevant. The only reason there are so many articles about it are probably China flexing it's western media tendrils to make some noise about China getting to name something from the moon, to boost its reputation as one of the big boys in space. Which was probably one of the strategic goals behind the mission in the first place, and makes me very skeptical that if they failed to actually find anything novel, they wouldn't just fabricate something themselves.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Very true.

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– Kaarous 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Sure it has helium 3. How did they dig up, contain and return helium 3 in a device the size of a dog carrier?

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– Six_z3r0 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Ancient chinese secret

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– MegoThor 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

In related news, strategic Calgon reserves are historically low.

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– lapalapa 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Isn't asteroid mining only logical for out-of-earth utilization? That's what I saw somewhere.

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– yamez 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

yes an no. Materials like metals can be returned to earths surface in small quantities easily enough. Drop them in a ceramic ablation container and attach parachutes. For certain metals, it's even economical. But normally not.

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– Obrez 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

When we were there we weren't looking for energy.

That said I doubt this material is stable fusion fuel.

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– ah_hell 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Chyna lies

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– 83671R18 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

If it's anything like SARS-COV2, say goodbye to the moon.

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– tensigh 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Anyone think this is just a dare to get the U.S. to race to the moon only to find it doesn't exist?

Trolling at its finest... :)

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

That is a good theory

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– acp_k2win 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The moon doesn't exist? Based.

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– reidj 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Their claims were confirmed by the International Mineralogical Association. I think they can be trusted, even if China can't. That said, nuclear fusion for power is theoretical. Changesite could speed up research, but don't expect power plants in the next few decades.

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

And we all know that international organizations are bastions of integrity that could never be bribed or corrupted in any way.

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– OldBullLee 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Wouldn't the cost of extraction make it economically . . . uh . . . unfeasible?

It's not like going to the moon is any less complicated or expensive.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

We need an excuse to explore the cosmos.

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– OmegaBird 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Fusion? We have an an abundance of that material on earth. It's called the fucking ocean. Or a lake.... Or glaciers even.

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– reidj 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It's the wrong isotope. Changesite contains hydrogen-3, which has two neutrons. I don't really understand why, but apparently the neutrons are important for the nuclear reaction

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's helium-3, which has two protons and one neutron. Neutrons are vital to fission reactions, but it's troublesome to deal with in fusion. Neutron radiation can be absorbed by atomic nuclei, changing their isotope, forcing electrons off and potentially even making them radioactive in the process. Good for your fission pile, not good for your fusion reactor, and very difficult to block.

The easiest form of fusion, deuterium-tritium fusion, creates a free neutron in the process. Deuterium-deuterium fusion does the same, though not at the same rate.

He-3 is a potential fusion fuel that doesn't create neutron radiation when you fuse it with more He-3, because it fuses into the stable He-4 (two protons and two neutrons) and two free protons.

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– Knife-TotingRat 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Don't worry about it.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That looks frun

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– GeneralBoobs 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

And I'm sure they're building a tower to heaven to outpace three little boys from a quiet mountain town in Colorado.

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– SoctaticMethod1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

While I highly doubt anything that comes from China, I wouldn't be surprised if materials and techniques for achieving nuclear fusion or a translucent metal may only be obtainable from space

Different environments, different materials available or might just be zero gravity aids in certain functions.

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