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Based Florida Man: "Corporatism is not the same as free enterprise" (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by FuckGenderPolitics 3 years ago by FuckGenderPolitics +57 / -0
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– JustHereForTheSalmon 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Abolish corporate personhood and you'll see all our problems melt away.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Sole proprietorships and residency requirements for the win.

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– FutaCumDiet 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

"No, just..."

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– GeneralBoobs 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

The last outpost of a once great empire, holding the line against the darkness. Its secret to survival?

Florida man.

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– when_we_win_remember 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Only a fuckin Democrat would characterize a tax cut as a handout. The same people that insist tax cuts are the same as government spending.

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– realerfunction 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

it's some modern monetary theory horseshit.

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– when_we_win_remember 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

"We can't afford to give you a tax cut"

Says the guy with infinite money and billion-dollar jets, who never comes up short when it's time to pay Israel or bribe some 3rd world country.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

"Giving people back the money I stole is an entitlement! Why do you support welfare, huh? Hypocrisy much?!!"

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– Gizortnik 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

tax cuts are the same as government spending

I sexually identify as a tax cut.

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– Kienan 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Dangerously based.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

This is what we need more of.

Glad to see that DeSantis is not anything like a Bush corporate neocon. He understands the major issues facing America and is willing to use power to address it.

He is easily the best politician we have.

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– AccountWasFree 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Corporatism is the merging of the state and business. It's explicitly the goal of Communism/Socialism. That's what "seizing the means of production" means. They take it over through the state under the guise that it represents The People. Corporatism is leftism. Corporatism is government backed monopolies. Corporatism is antithetical to Capitalism.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Corporatism confuses people because the Left keep trying to pre-tend it means Co-op -eratism rather than Corporate-ism. It's why they try and make a distinction between Corporatism and Fascist Corporatism as if they were different in the slightest.

I tend to just call it by it's other name: Syndicalism

They are, quite literally, trying to form Syndicates within the economy, combining state, labor unions, and public corporations, ruled by political organizations, working within each industry as a racket. Or: a syndicate.

Fascism is just State Syndicalism.

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– Assassin47 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They are different in the slightest, but only the slightest. One system effortlessly changes to the other.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Corporatism is a synonym of Fascism. The woke corporation thing, the encroachment of Big Tech into governance, the capture of corporate news by the DP and the current regime, all of it, textbook Fascism.

Arguably, the military-industrial complex is Fascist to the degree that the state enables the collusion.

The EU is a bureaucracy poised to impose Fascism across Europe and already has to the degree that "member states" do the EU's bidding.

Antifa is a gaggle of Communists pretending to be anti-Fascists, judging by their targets.

Fascism can be implemented without the presence of a dictator or "strong-man" head of state.

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– ImThrowing4U 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I've been saying this, what's going on in America is practically what those leftoid faggots beg for. Big Pharma/Oil/Tech in bed with the government is not capitalism.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– Gemmaugr 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'm pleasantly surprised! They're indeed not the same, but republicans and conservatives are usually very pro-corporation.

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– ImThrowing4U 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Pro corporation doesn't mean you support corporate boot-heel-on-neck. Ask any conservative what they think of Pharma, the medical industry as a whole, Silicon Valley, Big Oil.

I'm not even a conservative, libertarian (ish) fits better, but I don't think most people understand them.

I'm not pro corporation at all, only so much as them being necessary evil that a limited government should interfere in when absolutely necessary. It's a hard line, because they're both cucks, and one misstep leads right back to where we are, with government and corps fucking in bed.

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– Assassin47 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'm not pro corporation at all, only so much as them being necessary evil that a limited government should interfere in when absolutely necessary. It's a hard line, because they're both cucks, and one misstep leads right back to where we are, with government and corps fucking in bed.

Problem is people on the left AND right WANT an ultra powerful nation state to compete with the rest of the world, with ultra powerful corporations competing against the other guys. We can't loosen IP restrictions, or other countries companies will steal from us. We can't break up the military-industrial-complex or the other militaries of the world will get an upper hand. This dynamic was seen in South Korea where they used to have a law that companies couldn't own IP after the owner dies, but Samsung got so powerful and improved the image of their nation so much that they were actively hiding the owner's death so the corporation and Korea could stay on top.

Once that problem is solved and people are willing to change, there are a few things you can do to fix this without giving too much power to corporations OR the government: For one we can start with what JustForTheSalmon said above about removing corporate personhood. Personhood is merely a legal fiction for tax purposes, and maybe some distribution of responsibility. However even that is currently taken too far, and there should always be some C-level human in charge who is criminally responsible for the sins of a company. Eliminate the whole idea that corporations can have rights or responsibilities. That doesn't make sense and warps our thinking here.

Then eliminate the income tax and return the federal government back to its constitutional role. With a tiny federal government they simply won't be able to impose as much regulatory sway over corporations. Many of the laws and regulations will be done at the state level.

Get rid of the Fed - aka the Banking Syndicate - and decentralize the money supply. We can still require the government to borrow from banks to print money, but there doesn't have to be ONE bank in charge, or one currency. Every state should be able to regulate money and decide who can print what. While USD will always be accepted everywhere, competing currencies will soften the impact of market crashes.

I'd also like to get rid of the regulated stock market. Obviously the above change to the government eliminates the SEC. You'd still have a stock market - many markets, in fact - but no federal guarantees. Replace those with basic "truth-in-advertising" and transparency laws. Almost all of the good things the SEC does are enforcing those areas anyway, but the same can be done through civil suits.

Finally eliminating a degree of the copyright and patent protections would weaken the power of corporations that don't actually produce anything of value but trade virtual properties and hold them as if they were real property. I'm not against the idea of copyrights and patents but it's gone too far, and the state of law today is perpetual government-backed monopolies. For example, I don't believe corporations should be able to hold copyrights. Those should be granted to humans only, who contractually license them to their employers. When the inventor dies the protections either expire or transfer to a beneficiary. (one time only) Software patents and the time period for various protections are other targets for reform.

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– OldBullLee 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

God bless the Gov. He keeps saying the right things. A popular Republican who publicly reveals he understands what corporatism is and opposes it by actually taking action against it.

We sure could use more pols like this guy.

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