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Thread: What happened to the movies? (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by NoEyesNoGroin 3 years ago by NoEyesNoGroin +24 / -0
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– acp_k2win 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

the last years of a dying empire, looking inward and reliving past achievements because there isn't any hope that there are better days over the horizon

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– You_Are_Based 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Last years of a declining republic*. If history is to repeat, we will have a Caesar moment and become an empire.

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– SarcasticRidley 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Let's hope we actually have a Caesar and not someone who doesn't live up to his caliber.

Then again people like Caesar come along once every few centuries, so I wouldn't get hopes up.

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– You_Are_Based 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

There is no way a modern man will live up to the legacy of Julius Caesar, but the good news is we only need him to be a fraction of the man Caesar was.

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– GodEmperorOfHumility 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

I watched Top Gun Maverick over the weekend. It was a solidly-executed basic popcorn flick with no surprises of any kind, and 20 years ago I'd have called it pleasantly mediocre - but in today's cinema culture, the mere fact that they delivered a solidly-executed basic popcorn flick and didn't shoehorn in a painful amount of tone-deaf woke propaganda made it sadly exceptional.

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– SarcasticRidley 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

and 20 years ago I'd have called it pleasantly mediocre

Even 10 years ago it would have been just a normal film.

It's amazing how rapidly our civilization has declined.

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– deleted 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0
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– Assassin47 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I don't know, the stereotypical Hollywood cigar-chomping sexual harassing fatcat movie executives seemed to like money more than the people running the place today. One of my favorite TV series, Star Trek TNG, was only good because Paramount forced Rick Berman to keep Gene Roddenberry tucked away in a corner where he couldn't do much damage, because he had a "message" he wanted to push, while they just wanted to sell a product.

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– hungryfreaksdaddy 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Rick Berman gets a lot of flack, but he really was one of the major forces behind Star Trek's renaissance in the 80s and 90s. He stopped Gene Roddenberry's nuttier ideas, while sticking to the underlying principles that made Star Trek so unique and popular.

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– subbookkeeper 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don't know if you can say studio interference is a good or bad thing.

For every story of "studio ruins movie" there's a counter argument where the changes were objectively better. The first one just makes a better story.

You'd really need to count the number and scale of studio intrusions on movies to know.

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– deleted 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0
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– Ahaus667 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

its the media equivalent of planned obsolescence. They would rather throw out "safe" broad demographic (wahman) movies that are completely forgotten in 2 years than "risky" well crafted stories that have a smaller demographic and the ability to be iconic for decades.

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– weezkitty 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Amazing artists & ideas are out there

But they don't hire people actual for talent. they hire based on DivErsIty

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– censorthisss 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

They're passing on scripts and writers because of ideology. That explains most of it.

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– Vicious_snek6 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

100 years of state education is what happened. That and the media being one of the earliest converged industries

Look at the entrance exams for universities in 1880 compared to 2020, look at the general knowledge that was expected of a view to get a joke or understand a reference in films from the 20s, or 50s. Look at how smart your average person is though he has a supercomputer and encyclopedia within arms reach.

The same thing happened to all media. It's now made for a highly 'educated' class who know nothing and are incurious, though they profess to 'fucking love science'.

Now add the politics atop that, and the funny money accounting and tax shenanigans that happen in hollywood, and there's no incentive to make anything good.

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– Indipendepede 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Today, top-50 movies, on average, are 8 minutes longer than they were in 1980 (110➡️118 min)

I bet a majority of that is credit rolls

To be clear, this does NOT imply that people are just less creative today. Amazing artists & ideas are out there. What it does suggest is that studio tolerance for and audience interest in standalone movies has declined.

Yes it does. If people have a preference for sequels, it's because there might be a vestige of something they liked before instead of whatever woke trash they are trying to shoehorn in.

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– dismybrowseacct 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

At it's most fundamental our societies past times have changed. People used to go to the movies to socialize and enjoy the ac, big screen, and some snacks. It was the same with things like baseball; it's a social thing and you didn't have screens in your face 24/7.

Things just don't work like that anymore and the last generation to enjoy the way it used to be is dying off. This generation has missed all the reasons things like this used to be different.

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

They focused more on polls, surveys and committees than first writing a great script. There are a few gems here and there but there is a massive mountain of ambivalence because of how generic a lot of the films wind up to be

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– MegoThor 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They got woke.

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– Roadpower 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The entertainment industry has been on a very long slide, getting into the specifics usually doesn't turn out well for where the thread has to go. However I'll attempt to take a different tack.

The problem is us.

Movies are easy to see versus reading a book, a book versus a movie is like getting your dopamine hit quick and cheap while reading a book is an actual investment to get your imagination going and senses tingling.

In a world full of noise and distractions, it is not difficult to see why few have the attention span to make investments in long form entertainment.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Maybe the movies that women direct are just bad?

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