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The perfect vehicle for range cattle (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by user20461 3 years ago by user20461 +51 / -0
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– TentElephant 39 points 3 years ago +39 / -0

What are you doing so far from your pod citizen‽

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– You_Are_Based 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

J-just visiting black owned business in California, Officer, I swear!

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– NewNameIguess 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Tourism is Jewish as hell anyway. You work half a year to save money, and use all your vacation days all so you can spend most of your time in a car or plane rushing around everywhere.

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– TentElephant 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I was thinking more about how they shut down Google and Apple maps in DC during the Stop The Steal rally and that they would have rather been able to prevent travel there entirely.

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– Guyven 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

I would imagine the only feasible system involves swapping trucks at stops. Pre-charging a fleet to pick up the cargo from the previous fleet like a relay-run. This means several things.

  • For every one gas-powered truck, you'll have 2, 3, or even 4 simultaneously charging trucks per-cargo-load in addition to the one presently driving.
  • Changeover will be an extreme additional logistical overhead. The facilities to do this do not presently exist and it seems obvious that capacity will not soon (or perhaps ever) be similar to the present transportation load.

All this will ultimately serve to do, is drive everyone right back to gas or rail. Since the people who love electric love centralization, they'll try to force rail first, but the capacity is not and never will be there compared to what trucks presently do. Transport companies will cash in on their crony leverage to carve out gas-usage exemptions since it's all that makes sense to do.

All electric is from a government standpoint is an attack on mobility and freedom. Gas is too efficient of an energy conduit and grants the rabble too much of an ability to be anywhere they want without clearance or knowledge of their betters. Gotta snuff it out for that reason alone.

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– Eltrion 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

The transport Tycoon player in me is grinning at the thought of a rail rush and covering north America with rail lines, but your right it probably won't happen. Maybe if society crashes back to the 1920s, but trucks would still be indispensable for for the last leg to retail.

These last 8 years have really brought into sharp relief how much delusionaly optimistic fantasy I was sold about technology in the early 2010s. If they weren't predicting the end of the world due to population growth or global warming/climate change, they were predicting technological marvels like instant housing, infinite clean energy and the achievement of global harmony and equality.

I guess it's a sort of carrot and stick approach. Do what we want and you get all this neat stuff, continue on the current path and suffer. Like a religion. Hmm.

I suppose in some respects its encouraging that they seem to have lost their carrot and are now the utopian future includes eating bugs, living in pods within dystopian hive cities and driving vehicles that are unable to transport you to the next hive over.

These days whenever I hear that all vehicles will be electric in the future, I assume that the person speaking is an ignorant city dweller who has never had to leave it for any of their needs.

Why don't you ignorant fucks start with some trolley buses or something. At least those are cool. economically viable. and would rejuvenate our rotting public transit systems.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I guess it's a sort of carrot and stick approach. Do what we want and you get all this neat stuff, continue on the current path and suffer. Like a religion. Hmm.

Also, if you're disappointed that you don't live in the utopia, you can be turned into a political radical by blaming it all on that guy over there who stopped it from happening.

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– Eltrion 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, because the world needs more Moviebobs

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– RoulerBleu 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Sounds like a logistic nightmare that would be alot less troublesome if there was a sort of docking system to just switch batteries instead.

The point is to strip the plebs of their independance. The elites and politicians will still fly on private planes and get driven around their luxurious cars.

They don't sincerely believe every car owners will switch to improved electric cars in a decade or two. They plan to coerce most to give up their independant mobility.

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– NewNameIguess 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They don't sincerely believe every car owners will switch to improved electric cars in a decade or two. They plan to coerce most to give up their independant mobility.

But what's the point? The only time most people go anywhere other than to work and back are to get things to enable one to continue the cycle. It just sounds like a lot of complicated logistics work for something that worked the same on it's own.

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– RoulerBleu 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

''Hold up citizen, it seems your Social Credit score is insufficient to board this bus. Your 12th booster is several days late.''

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– NewNameIguess 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Controls like that are already in place at the employment level, if you can't get a job you can't survive.

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– MegoThor 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The same way they explain everything else. Lies and nonsense.

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– SarcasticRidley 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I for one would love for them to try to get around the weight limit for roads. An electric lorry would weigh so much that you would have basically no cargo capacity in the trailer without exceeding the limits and incurring massive fines.

It's the same problem with every electric vehicle: it's not the motors, it's the batteries. The motors weigh nothing in comparison to the batteries, and until we find a way to make them as energy dense as gasoline, or at the very least make them weigh half as much as they do, they'll never be as useful as a diesel.

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– Assassin47 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I don't know but they are already normalizing us to accept bare shelves at the supermarket, which will be common if the trucks are delayed while charging.

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– APDSmith 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I hate to be that guy but for commercial transport, I can envisage some circumstances under which it works better than this.

If it's commercial, for instance, there's going to be less of a problem with the concept of leasing the battery, which is a fair chunk of the value of the vehicle.

You don't need to swap the truck, only the battery. Tesla already has a fancy demo of a charging station dumping the battery out the bottom of the vehicle and swapping a new one in - https://youtu.be/H5V0vL3nnHY?t=60

If the battery's leased, you don't even care if you get the original one back, merely something of equivalent function. So that charging station can charge up your old battery in however long it takes - or ship it off for recycling if it's reached end-of-life. You don't care, you're on your merry way with the new one, that you also don't own.

Plus, with the way petrol prices are serving to keep everybody off the road, in their pods, consuming their bugs, it might be easier on the truck AI if it comes to it...

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– Eltrion 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Hence why I suggested Trolly busses. If they were first to build the infrastructure of overhead wires for busses, perhaps smaller trucks could use them in cities too. Pulling electricity right from the grid solves the weight and efficiency issues with batteries at the very least. You still need to scale the grid to meet increased power demands, but it's less ridiculous than everyone driving a Tesla or battery powered big rigs.

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– APDSmith 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Eh, I'm not sure about that. Trolleybuses work quite well for buses, with fixed routes, but the effort - and likelihood of faults - goes up the more intersections you have to put in. Not sure if I'd say it's ready for joe public, tbh.

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– Eltrion 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

True. I was thinking things like garbage trucks, which also have fixed routes.

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– user20461 [S] 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Vacations and road trips will soon be a thing of the past.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

They kinda are now with $6/gallon gas.

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– user20461 [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Time is money

https://archive.ph/KHFqu

Over four days, we spent $175 on charging. We estimated the equivalent cost for gas in a Kia Forte would have been $275, based on the AAA average national gas price for May 19. That $100 savings cost us many hours in waiting time.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I got to vacation for 100 dollars each way. One tank of gas. That's not really a lot in the scheme of vacation expenses. One night in a hotel is typically 150 or more.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The last road trip I did a couple years back was about 3000 miles round trip, and to save money I slept in the car. The economics of such a trip are completely different now with gas prices being what they are.

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– Brennus 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I hate the idea of a road trip in an ev. Oh if you just make 14 stops at these exact spots and charge you will be at your destination 6+ hours later if you had just drove a gasoline vehicle. Not to mention the safety issue of having to wait in a massive parking lot charging for an extended amount of time.

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– MegoThor 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

The perfect vehicle for range cattle

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

EV's aren't fit for long distance. They will be GREAT for daily commutes in cities where they will massively reduce noise and improve air quality, but... Most cities have way worse problems than noise and air pollution.

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– Roadpower 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Electric cars as a commute device in a city are in my view pretty bad unless you have a lot of money to burn. The much better solution is an electric scooter and even better than that (although more niche) is an electric unicycle.

Both the scooter and the EUC are portable door to door solutions and they both can be supplemented by public transportation. A car of any kind is just a big headache in a major city and should only be used if you really can't use other options.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The much better solution is an electric scooter and even better than that (although more niche) is an electric unicycle.

Allow me to introduce you to wind, rain, and snow.

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– Roadpower 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

True but that is why I added the bit about supplementing with public transit. I own a car & motorcycle, for me the absolute best way to get around NYC is a PEV. I only use public transit in bad weather.

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– Benevolentdictator 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And Canada.

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– Assassin47 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ew, all those options sound much worse than EVs. (ok the unicycle sounds fun) Americans love their cars, and they don't like waiting for or riding the bus with weirdos, so if you wanted to encourage clean air in the cities you would promote EVs. No amount of funding to public transportation will change American culture.

I don't know if you're talking about European cities, or New York City and the east coast, but you NEED a car in almost every major city in America. NYC/Chicago/Boston are atypical. If you're talking about London or Tokyo then you're right, a car is a hassle.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Buses are the worst of public transport. They don't go precisely where you want to go, they have to contend with traffic, and they're full of degenerates.

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– Roadpower 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, it does depend on where you live. The denser the living area the less attractive any kind of car is for commuting.

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– user20461 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

https://archive.ph/KHFqu

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– Roadpower 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Well I'll give them this, they were at least fairly honest about the hell they went through.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Of course you shouldn't do that! What the fuck did you expect? It only goes 250 miles on a single charge at best, and even a hypercharging station will take at least 45 minutes for a full charge.

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– CanuckElhead 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

For those asking about the feasibility, they'll probably push for infastructure to support it which yes, is going to be a nightmare to apply and likely costly to set up, run and maintain. But your underestimating the money to be made on the usual public works grifts, I can hear union delegates salivating from here.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This will be mandatory on all vehicles soon.

It should be fairly easy to override in any case. I doubt they're doing any anti-tampering or sophisticated disabling. Probably literally just telling the head unit to stop the motor and not allow the start button to work again.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– NewNameIguess 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It should be fairly easy to override in any case.

That would probably be illegal.

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– LauriThorne 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's also not a built in feature they use when you've been canceled on social media.

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