It IS about being able to say whatever you want. That strongly implies a lack of consequence FOR speaking, which correlates strongly with a lack of monitoring and policing for the purpose of exacting consequences for every utterance. All of these serve the primary goal of encouraging an individual to express thoughts rather than curtail them with the presumption that for a culture that is a net-positive at the ultimate scale.
The philosophy of "freedom of speech" is a practical expression of the belief that when unfettered by codes and dictates, an individual will achieve the greatest heights in thought, and finally action. It literally is an actual encouragement to "say whatever you want."
It IS about being able to say whatever you want. That strongly implies a lack of consequence FOR speaking
The left is all about rejecting obvious premises though. It used to be understood that a CULTURE of free speech was necessary in America, but they're all fine with de facto speech regulation since the government isn't doing the enforcement.
And ideological libertarians (intelligent morons) played into their hands for years. Someone tell me if the husband of a doctor saw the light or if he's still judging censorship on a case-by-case basis like a judge at the Olympics.
Failure to gatekeep. We fell to the bad faith behavior of the left because we didn't gatekeep them. Live and let live only works if everyone involved abides by it. The key point of that is if you fail to enforce it, you're just giving the enemy free reign.
The Left were the ones that claimed they were the live and let live types, that it was the evil conservatives and religious people oppressing our freedoms.
Now that they got into power, suddenly it's, "live as I demand you live and act and speak as I see correct or you will be punished through various exojudicial (if not actual judicial) bodies."
Ultimately it is the government doing the enforcement. Anyone who pretends that Google, Facebook, Twitter are just independently deciding what to do is an obvious liar / shill.
At the time of the Constitution, the only forces that ever could punish you for free speech were government forces.
You might piss off a neighbor, or a pastor, or a store owner, but that's not the end of the story.
Today, global non-government institutions can effectively murder you. Make it impossible to have a bank account, impossible to buy goods, impossible to pass a background check, impossible to do just about anything to thrive. Sure, there's growing your own food, using precious metals for trade, but that's merely survival, not thriving.
Fucking crazy they literally say "consequence of speech" so blase, like it's not an implicit threat to begin with.
This is how we're edging so close to such a rough society. Don't threaten me that there are consequences to my speech. And hey fuckface, who are you and why is it your business? Truth is you'll find a long nose behind nearly all "consequence of speech" rhetoric.
Nobody gets fired, ostracized, their bank account canceled, their Internet shut off, their domain name seized, or brought up on charges for saying dumb woke shit or joining the Communist Party USA. Consequences are only for people who call out the small hats and state unpopular truths. IDK who actually said "Ask whom you cannot criticize," but they were right fuckin' on. The only sacred cows any more are Moloch's.
You will never get far if you continue to argue with them on their wordings and interpretations.
e.g. “abortion is about women’s rights”
It’s not about that. Same with amendment 1a. If you allow the argument to be centered around the wording “say whatever I want”, you carelessly allow them an opportunity to market you and your cause as whiny, annoying, selfish.
Work on appearing intelligent. No one outside pol/ cooperates with or follows “fuck you I’ll do whatever I want” personas.
Fact of life is that there is always multiple people and organizations with power over you. If the people do not have the will to constrain them they will run your ass like a slave no matter what laws you write and what rights you claim.
It IS about being able to say whatever you want. That strongly implies a lack of consequence FOR speaking, which correlates strongly with a lack of monitoring and policing for the purpose of exacting consequences for every utterance. All of these serve the primary goal of encouraging an individual to express thoughts rather than curtail them with the presumption that for a culture that is a net-positive at the ultimate scale.
The philosophy of "freedom of speech" is a practical expression of the belief that when unfettered by codes and dictates, an individual will achieve the greatest heights in thought, and finally action. It literally is an actual encouragement to "say whatever you want."
The left is all about rejecting obvious premises though. It used to be understood that a CULTURE of free speech was necessary in America, but they're all fine with de facto speech regulation since the government isn't doing the enforcement.
And ideological libertarians (intelligent morons) played into their hands for years. Someone tell me if the husband of a doctor saw the light or if he's still judging censorship on a case-by-case basis like a judge at the Olympics.
Failure to gatekeep. We fell to the bad faith behavior of the left because we didn't gatekeep them. Live and let live only works if everyone involved abides by it. The key point of that is if you fail to enforce it, you're just giving the enemy free reign.
The Left were the ones that claimed they were the live and let live types, that it was the evil conservatives and religious people oppressing our freedoms.
Now that they got into power, suddenly it's, "live as I demand you live and act and speak as I see correct or you will be punished through various exojudicial (if not actual judicial) bodies."
Ultimately it is the government doing the enforcement. Anyone who pretends that Google, Facebook, Twitter are just independently deciding what to do is an obvious liar / shill.
At the time of the Constitution, the only forces that ever could punish you for free speech were government forces.
You might piss off a neighbor, or a pastor, or a store owner, but that's not the end of the story.
Today, global non-government institutions can effectively murder you. Make it impossible to have a bank account, impossible to buy goods, impossible to pass a background check, impossible to do just about anything to thrive. Sure, there's growing your own food, using precious metals for trade, but that's merely survival, not thriving.
If enough people do it, it could be thriving, but if enough people do it, the government steps in.
Idi Amin said it best
And pretty much everyone left of Ron Paul agrees with him
Fucking crazy they literally say "consequence of speech" so blase, like it's not an implicit threat to begin with.
This is how we're edging so close to such a rough society. Don't threaten me that there are consequences to my speech. And hey fuckface, who are you and why is it your business? Truth is you'll find a long nose behind nearly all "consequence of speech" rhetoric.
Nobody gets fired, ostracized, their bank account canceled, their Internet shut off, their domain name seized, or brought up on charges for saying dumb woke shit or joining the Communist Party USA. Consequences are only for people who call out the small hats and state unpopular truths. IDK who actually said "Ask whom you cannot criticize," but they were right fuckin' on. The only sacred cows any more are Moloch's.
Freedom of speech is primarily about preventing viewpoint discrimination. That being said, saying whatever you want is damn near implied in that.
it's about saying whatever you want
freedom of speech means freedom from consequences
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They got freedom of speech to name their user whatever they want.
true but it's pretty gay
You will never get far if you continue to argue with them on their wordings and interpretations.
e.g. “abortion is about women’s rights”
It’s not about that. Same with amendment 1a. If you allow the argument to be centered around the wording “say whatever I want”, you carelessly allow them an opportunity to market you and your cause as whiny, annoying, selfish.
Work on appearing intelligent. No one outside pol/ cooperates with or follows “fuck you I’ll do whatever I want” personas.
Fact of life is that there is always multiple people and organizations with power over you. If the people do not have the will to constrain them they will run your ass like a slave no matter what laws you write and what rights you claim.
The one leads to the other. If there's something I can't say, you need someone to police speech.
Freedom of speech is culturally defined. Outside of a homogeneous people with shared values, the concept of free speech is useless.
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