A former co-worker of mine who is a huge fan of the Wheel of Time books (pretty liberal but hated the show because it didn't follow much of the source material) showed me a shill article anticipating the next season and dismissing people who didn't like it as lore nerds who want everything like the books.
I am very sick of the attacks on people who had been fans of the original source material of an IP. I haven't seen the list in a while but I think that was one of the steps of geekergate that Itchy Bacca made. As for Wheel of Time I knew it was dead on arrival when the showrunner couldn't shut up about female/lgbt representation. Yes there is mention of pillow friends and the demigods seem to find pleasure with men and women, but in the 14 very thick books mention of that isn't very prevalent, but along with taking things that Rand does to give to female characters, he seems intent to "representing" lgbt.
The larger point is that it is laughable when people who say to respect the lore/source material are attacked as racists/sexists. When Disney bought Star Wars I remember so many articles praising the erasure of the EU, and while Disney has the right to do what it wants they would've been smarter in at least doing some sort of animated adaption of EU content like DC does with alternate storylines.
Sorry for the rant but the whole "nerds are evil" mindset really annoys me because it seems like a lot of these people who get control of these IPs or are hired as writers were the very people who laughed at those who played video games, read books, or comic books but once nerd stuff became trendy (thank you BBT and MCU) now everyone is an expert. Poster child for this is Anita Sarkessian. She really strikes me as someone who never gave gaming a second thought til she saw the money to be made whining endlessly about girls in gaming.
They only take an interest in our things to destroy them and plant their flag in the rubble.
You will have no respite from constant reminders of who your superiors are, slave.
They skin your grandmother. Drape her flesh over their shoulders. Ask for a hug and then loudly demand why you hate your gran gran when you recoil in horror.
That was way, way too graphic to be comfortable.
is true tho
But not inaccurate.
I think you missed the subtext on his "they"
Well, that's the beauty of "they".
You can read it however you want.
Yea this is why I pretty much only watch shows from 2014 or prior. So tired of the “we need more women” in every genre mentality
I don't watch TV at all at this point. All I'll do is set up a UK VPN to watch the F1 highlights each week.
I don't think I'm missing much. Just more propaganda from people that hate me.
You ever read Dont give money to people who hate you?
There's a book? I thought it was just a slogan.
Yea by Brian Niemier. Less than 100 pages.
Kind of curious how you can stretch "boycotting is a good idea" into a whole book.
There is some stuff in there that appeals to Christians so I liked that and he had ways you can get free older content but yea he really hammers home that point.
My thoughts on the matter.
They turn on the fans, part because they hate the fans, they hate us because they are not fans themselves, they were brainwashed in to thinking that the reason why they are not fans is because we kept them away from hobbies. In their marxist washed little brains we are the oppressors by simply liking something they do not like, but they will never see it that way.
They see themselves as the victims that are finally in power and now is their turn to hurt those that hurt them. Is all in their heads but no amount of reason will convince them of that, being a victim and fighting the oppressors is their religion now. A shallow, unrewarding, corrupt religion.
They will "fix" the material as much as possible to make it how they think it should be in order to be made for them and to hurt the fans.
You've seen it in Star Wars, how they treated the original characters, how they've humiliated them. They did not need to do that, but they did to hurt us. They added the super female character, so now star wars is finally made for them. Except the movie is shallow and full of plot holes, with unlikable characters, because they are shallow and unlikable themselves.
To add to my previous comment.
I'm done trying to justify anything, I've already been called every ism and phobic and I no longer care. I no longer need to defend being a fan and disliking what they are doing.
I have now 0 tolerance, either they are keeping exactly to the original material, no race swap, no added LGBTQIAP2S+ characters, no pronouns, no feminist power fantasy, or I will piss on it as much as possible.
If they make a new setting in a viking inspired time period and it looks like Chicago at night they can go fuck themselves. If is a historic military game and suddenly half of the warriors are women, they can go fuck themselves with a cactus drenched in alcohol. etc.
I agree. I just joke now and say I embrace the white supremacy. It’s crazy how wanting an adaptation of a book I enjoy to at least somewhat follow the book makes you a bad person.
And I really hate the gatekeeping argument or the idea they were shunned. Plenty of nerdy guys like me loved the idea of a girl who was into gaming or comic books/sci-fi/fantasy. My knowledge was tested and it was fun. Same with nerd debates.
I enjoyed the prequels and I can understand their flaws but after the sequel trilogy I can really appreciate the fact it was made by someone who lives Star Wars. I watched Mandalorian before my Disney plus subscription ran out. It wasn’t bad but overall it feels like Star Wars is run by someone who doesn’t seem to care. Also look at marvel stuff. You have showrunners proudly stating that they couldn’t be bothered to research source material.
Yes it was.
It leaned hard on the nostalgia card in both seasons [Look at the dancing Boba!] and even played the "Stormtroopers are shit at aiming" meme for a gag at the end of the first season.
Ok, wasn’t bad for Disney Star Wars. I didn’t hate it like TLJ
It's downright gaslighting when they rant about no women in games when most gamers could name at least five female protagonists off the top of their heads.
It's hard to tell if they know better and are poisoning the well, or they're just that ignorant and stupid. It's part of why I've lost my use for Hanlon's Razor. Ignorance and malice go hand in hand.
There's Alice, Alice, Alice, Alice, and Alys, to name 5 off the top of my head.
Stick to Occam's Razor, not Hanlon's. The simplest answer is they are malicious. Ignorance is too hard to fathom, too difficult to conceptualize. It requires multiple layers of justifications and conditionals, when I don't even need to go off more than one name to reach five named main characters.
Please tell me you were thinking of Phantasy Star 4. Please?
I was for that one! Good identifying!
Unfortunately, even GIRES can't help some things...
Exactly. In any of these hobbies there were always women or minorities who were interested but if certain people see a hobby that is majority male or majority white it’s automatically bad.
they show up on our doorstep and demand to be treated like they were always fans.
Yes, they hate fans because they care more about pushing an extremist ideology than anything else, and they also want to lower the bar for being considered a legitimate fan in order to increase their entryism so they can turn the community into an extremist hugbox and effectively further their terrorist ideology.
Communities should define what a real legitimate fan is in my opinion by how they are involved in the community:
Your gate is weak and poorly kept.
My "weak gatekeep" is the aspergic conversation starter: Can you name three pieces of interesting trivia about the subject? Even mainstream trivia is fine.
LotR: Aragorn's actor broke his foot kicking that helmet. Tom Bombadil was written out of the movies. Wizards aren't humans. Done, easy.
MLP: John DeLancie voices Discord. The name Twilight Sparkle was a subtle dig at the Twilight series of books. Laughter's original role was a blond, white pegasus named Surprise.
D&D: 3.5e was the best edition. 4e is awful. 5e is playable but a chore to DM.
Any three simple trivia facts. It is surprising how much this actually stops people dead in their tracks. People wearing Iron Man shirts at a Comic Con who can't name any three simple facts about Iron Man, then accuse you of gatekeeping for... wanting to talk about the thing you're in the fandom of. Go to any true fan, ask them for three interesting things about their favorite subject, and they'll talk your ear off. Fake fan? They'll accuse you of gatekeeping and various isms.
TFW Q voices a MLP.
Hey, I have every Mechwarrior game since the original MW2. I didn't even know there was a table top game until after MW3 came out.
What was MechWarrior 1?
DOS game that was pretty basic. Like Privateer, Wing Commander, and some other DOS games most people consider a classic, I never knew about it until the DOS era of gaming was over.
If you are upset over the Wheel of Time, or any of the other adaptations of the last 5 years, all I can say is welcome to the club. Starship Troopers was defiled long before anyone even thought of doing Wheel of Time.
I saw Starship Troopers before I learned about Heinlein. He is now one of my favorites. I’d love to see a faithful adaptation but that won’t happen. But if I had read the book first I would’ve hated the movie. The book explores interesting things
I liked the themes of what defines a citizen and the military service since I was Air Force. But I’ve heard the fascist critique.
I see you asked about the movie. Sorry. I think it’s definitely a jingoistic theme. But I like the ideas brought up in the book.
That’s another great book. He is my favorite author. Check out Moon is a Harsh Mistress when you can.
In less crazy times Stranger would be an amazing movie or mini series.
As a lore nerd, "Hear, fucking, hear!"
They literally reduced John Boyega's size on the movie posters for Chinese release.
Now, I think Boyega is a woke moron, [look up his complete lack of knowledge about Pacific Rim when he was helping make the second one], who is all too happy to shit on others for American woke points despite being from England himself, but it's a massive dose of hypocrisy from Disney given how they treated his appearance because the Chinese hate blacks.
Yea he had my sympathy until he embraced victim mentality
That was a foregone conclusion when the series ended up being over a dozen fairly sized books set across 3 or so years time wise.
Jordan dying certainly didn't help things but neither did his spiteful reaction to the fans working out Taim was Demandred where he told them they were wrong then changed what he was going to do despite all the hints, which was why it was worked out in all honesty, and then subsequent plot holes changing it so Taim wasn't Demandred in the end.
And as another lore nerd it's certainly posed me off countless times when I see "fans" arguing about a franchise to then turn around mid argument and admit they haven't even finished the fucking thing! Have had that happen on the Witcher sub a few times where normies new to the franchise are arguing show defence points without realising how much of a clusterfuck the show change is in regards to the lore.
I don't think that's a thing?
As per Jordan's own notes the original plans for Lord of Chaos actually did have the infamous "Taimandred" theory be true.
The prior material published creates the plot holes because the clues connect the two so well because they really were the same person in earlier drafts.
I finished WOT books last year and I will probably buy the Witcher books later this year. I played Witcher 3 and it was fun but I want to get familiar with the lore
if you make changes that don't follow established rules of the setting, then you don't have a setting
Sanderson's fan fictions have nothing to do with WOT. That means 11 + 1 books written by Robert Jordan.
And most of them are quite short.
Boo. Sanderson did an admirable job.
And it's not like he pulled them out of his ass, he was hand picked by Jordan when he knew he wouldn't make it, consulted with the man himself, had his notes and frameworks, and continued to consult with Jordan's wife who by all accounts knew very well what Jordan had planned.
I liked that he didn't try too hard to ape Jordan's writing style, trying to put on the voice of a dead man just seems distasteful, just tell the meat of the story he wanted as best you can.