I work for a major company and learned that diversity/equity/inclusion is going to be a part of the review process but they didn’t say how yet. This is ridiculous
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I suppose. Until they ask for my opinion on things. But this is crazy. So I guess I have to do training about why white people are bad?
That’s true. Especially during Floyd riots people got fired for saying perfectly normal things. So as much as I want to push back against this crap I could get in a lot of trouble
If you brush up on Derrick Bell and other critical race theorists, you can learn how to assault them with right-wing talking points but framed with leftism, such as calling forced integration a black cultural genocide and MLK a black collaborator whose interests converged with a white super-structure.
Good point. Although I have no problem with voluntary integration since I have a lot of friends that are white or Hispanic (fluent in Spanish due to working with a lot of Mexicans when I was younger). At my age now I tend to hang out with people more traditional minded. Guess that also explains why I have a lot of friends from church
Other than progressives, there aren't many people that have problems with voluntary anything. It was just the most aggresive argument I could come up with on the fly that attacks the liberal mythos within a leftist framework but also advances a right-wing narrative. The fun part about everything being racist is that everything is racist.
there is nowhere to go that isn't a mom and pop or a startup
but then again the quality of life when working at a small business is much better so probably worth it
Every small company I worked at was great…til it was bought out by a larger company
a woman was fired on, and killed, for yelling 'all lives matter.'
Yes! And it made me mad that nobody seemed to care and media ignored it
“people got fired for saying normal things” = the people in power now are more cowardly and delusional
If I were in charge of the revolution, there would be severe fines for companies doing that. And my laws would be retroactive. Any fired worker would be able to start a class lawsuit.
I love that. Something tells me they don’t want my opinion. Unless I talk about how oppressed I am in these mean suburbs
This is correct. You're only "useful" until you wander outside the woke plantation. Start forming exit plans now
tell them they are racist for questioning your views on blmacness. LMAO
If you dont tow their line... they gonna find someone more down the intersectional ladder of oppressed. If you are a white dude, theyll go for white girl. If you are white girl, theyll go for black girl. If you black girl, theyll go for muslim black girl. If you a muslim black girl, they go for a tranny.
They go down the ladder until they find the most fanatical and "oppressed".
would they even listen to you if you said its ridiculous?
like i know they are just cultists, but could you like try to short circuit their brains for a bit
My employer's DIE initiatives are getting pushed more as well. But, I've got a plan.
Classic Gizortnik subversion.
One manager wants to push "celebrating heritage" as part of push for these DIE initiatives.
She wants to know who would volunteer for celebrating their heritage.
I intend to volunteer and celebrate my American heritage. I'm going to use the opportunity to do a bit of an impassioned lecture about Civic Nationalism from an American Liberal Revolutionary perspective, and push the idea that power mongers have sought to balkanize America with racial politics. I'm going to heavily emphasize that American values focus on individualism, liberty, responsibility, meritocracy, and property. I will not so subtly hint that focuses on grievance and collectivism are explicitly anti-American, that racial and ethnic collectivism is a lie of individualists using a fake collectives of blood, to form collectives of creed, for the sole purposes of power for themselves.
I'm actually thinking about trying to make ethno-nat "Amerimutt" and 'mongrelized' slur as a weapon against external ethnic affiliation itself, by arguing that American is the proper ethnic categorization of Americans who are too distant and disparate from their ancestor ethnicities. And that American sub-ethnicities are already too disparate and different from their former ancestral ethnicities to be considered the same. If I'm clever, I should be able to argue effectively that an American black is even more foreign to a Nubian than an American white.
I've already gotten some informal clearance from my direct superiors that making an aggressive civic nationalist argument would be perfectly acceptable. Hopefully, if I drop enough good lines from Booker T. Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Sowell, I should be able to break something in my mid-level manager's brain.
I'll probably want to include my line "Every Racist is a Race Traitor", and drop some bombs out of "Intellectuals And Race", and "Immigration and Cultures".
On the other hand, I intend to make it absolutely clear that I would walk right out of the company if I was ever prompted or requested to make DIE decisions on team members.
Very powerful plan. I may steal some of your ideas. You are right. I hate the term African American or hyphenated Americans. My African and European ancestors came here in the 1600s and 1700s. At this point I am very far removed from any African country and with it being so scattered I couldn’t even tell you what country
If it's that far back, you wouldn't have had one.
Effectively, African tribal relationships absolutely vanished in the Americas. Any sort of tribal lineage would have been lost. From that point on, it's an argument about becoming an "American Nation". I've previously talked about how the book "The Might of Nations" works to define what a Nation is as a political science concept. The American Revolution was filled with a lot of emphasis on building a "new nation of people", rather than simply a state. The nation of "Americans" were born out of the idea of "Liberty" by asserting that English Rights were universal within Liberal philosophy, and were entirely removed from the state and the monarchy. That these literally inalienable (inseparable) freedoms were bestowed upon the people themselves by God. Not bestowed as privileges and protections to subjects of a monarchy.
The basis of The American Experiment is about whether or not it is even possible to 'sink all differences and distinctions' into a name that represents new nation of people, dedicated to the idea of individual human liberty itself.
To throw all that away to claim affiliation with a people who do not know you, would not recognize you, who do not speak your language, and who's culture and values you do not share because some charlatan claimed that you had some sort of ancestral claim to their history (rather than your own) seems like an incredible waste.
Exactly. Hence I am an American. I’ll have to check out that book. Thanks!
based take. im lovin this thread. great insights to defend against dei garbage bois.
Start by calling it DIE.
Both names work great. DIE has the obvious implication that diversity for diversity's sake leads to death, but DEI implies that diversity is literally the god of their religion.
That blows. Personally, I couldn’t do it. It grosses me out too much. I have to be true to myself, and I don’t want to lie or hide who I am. Not just conservative, but being Christian too.
I realize now, especially after the covid stuff, that I simply am not meant to live in a remotely corporate world.
I’m working towards some stuff now, but if I end up unable to avoid this crap, I’d rather become a farmer or plumber running my own operation.
Fuck these people.
I’m a Christian too and it’s a shame how some things like love your neighbor or saying that everyone should get equal treatment is considered racist
Yeah that's what I mean exactly. Treating people equally is a part of my faith. It's the spirit that matters, not the flesh. So it's not simply a political view. There's no way in hell I will compromise on my belief in God and his mercy on us all.
Amen brother.
I guess you're fine with diversity, but watch out for equity and inclusion so hide your power level if you want to stay included.
I get what you are saying but I hate those concepts. It flies in the face of getting the most qualified. Honestly everyone would be better off if there was a uniform standard to meet and people didn’t get excuses made for them. But I’m living in a fantasy
this. we're not in a time to make up excuses anymore. this world is the time of strong men taking a stand. for morals and more
Take the system down from the inside!
I’ve actually considered joining the diversity and inclusion council with that in mind
Just make sure you use the correct acronym: DIE. Because that's what happens to companies that follow through.
Time to tell your employer you're a black woman.
Man, I forget who, maybe Chris Rufo or James O'Keefe, but I remember reading about some anti-wokist org asking for docs of things like this so the outside world could know. I really wish I remembered who it was, but I saw it sometime last year.
My company has embraced the DIE recruitment & review process as well.
Refuse, but tell them you’ll compromise by incorporating DIE into your review process.
Use their own weapons against them and weaponize HR against the degenerates.
Have you given any thought to future actions if one of your co-workers is passed over for promotion or advancement due to this DIE initiative?
If that promotion or advancement is given to you or another black co-worker how would you deal with potential resentment?
Well i give a lot of effort and people see that. So I would hope my work would speak for itself. As for people getting passed over I haven’t seen that in my area but there is a group of us who push back against this stuff so we would need friends in high places.
I’ve been binge listening to James Lindsey’s New Discourses podcast on YouTube and one of the things he points out is that DIE and racial equity is meant to increase the supply of racism since demand outstrips supply in modern America.
Prepare yourself if you can and best of luck.
Thank you. I see that as the real race problem in America. Extreme demand but low supply. No matter how much you point out to people that it isn’t as racist as they see they ignore you. Plus you have racism against whites that is approved