Trump is over. I don't care what he says about anything.
He folded his tent and went home. Nancy Pelosi is still around making all of us miserable and running the Congressional shitshow while he keeps crying about himself.
Trump these days only bitches about the stolen election and pushes the clotshot.
He never talks much about the many problems people face everyday like vax mandates, inflation, the border invasion, CRT and big tech censorship.
It is always all about him and his grievances.
He told people to come on the sixth and baited many into completely ruining their lives. He then walked away without pardoning or doing anything for any of them.
Not only that but on the 6th he was still president. He was the commander in chief of the military, the FBI, the CIA, and everything else. He failed to seize the crucial moment - and then it was gone like floodwater under a bridge that thundered into the abyss 1,000 ft. below.
He had his chance and he blew it; on a number of fronts.
are we forgetting the fact that all branches of the government had it knives out for this guy? This year alone showed one of the 'top' military generals snitching on china. This country is beyond the usual way of fixing things.
The biggest mistake he made was wussing out on the promise to "Repeal and Replace" health services. The task was handed to the slime Paul Ryan who fucked it up twice then exited, and da Donald just moved on to something else, leaving the execrable Obamacare intact along with the rest of the broken US health care policy.
He didn't clean house of corrupt federal bureaucrats, military, and intelligence. He didn't reform Obamacare. And then we all found ourselves embroiled in a health crisis that could have been prevented if he had kept his promises.
No forgiveness. And yes Kushner was a massive wanker and a mistake.
Worse, he put Milly in charge of the Joint Chiefs and that seems to be when all the agencies and military started lying and ignoring him. He thought he was Marcus Aurelius but turned out to be Caesar. And yeah putting Kushner, who he's STILL listening to, as defacto chief was a retarded move.
What do you think he should have done? Honestly asking.
I did hear that he convened the joint chiefs to discuss emergency powers in the event of foreign interference in our election, and they refused to go along with any such notion. Then they publicly released a letter stating that the military plays no part in US elections. I think that was treason, but they got away with it.
He’ll never talk about inflation because it’s literally his fault. He was in charge when they printed that trillion dollars, and when the mandates started, and when all the supply chains were destroyed.
You’d think it’s obvious that he’s now the swamp, but the let’s go Brandon types will donate and vote for him no matter what he does at this point.
He was in charge when they printed that trillion dollars
The first trillion, yes, but what about the second trillion, or the third?
and when the mandates started
State-level mandates, which he would have had debatable legal authority to put a stop to, and primarily in states which were politically opposed to him and he had no sway.
and when all the supply chains were destroyed.
Again, this took place primarily overseas (China, Taiwan) with their lockdowns and mandates, and in California/Los Angeles' and Washington/Seattle's jurisdictions. Some elements of Port of LA/SEA policy could have been dictated by the federal government, but most of the disruption is coming from local authorities, and has aggravated significantly since he left office, suggesting that whatever he was doing, it wasn't the absolute worst possible policy.
In short, the good and bad thing about Donald Trump is he's rich enough to live in a bubble. It's insulated him from the madness over the last 30 years, but it also means that it's tough to get new information through to him.
He knew Jared and Ivanka personally, so they got to advise on policy matters, even when they were provably wrong.
He had a positive opinion of the military, so he didn't purge it of dissenters, even when it became obvious he should.
Fauci was a known quantity, so he got to remain in place even when it became obvious that he was wrong and lying.
The vaccines are 'his' achievement, so he's flogging them long after his base lost interest.
Rand Paul might fit that criteria; I don't think he ever got the vac, has been openly fighting for natural immunity, and is very vocal against Faucian hysterics.
Rand Paul's wife is invested in pharma stock specifically Gilead Pharmaceuticals.
They make the poison that is Remdesivir. One of my relatives was given it as a treatment for COVID in the hospital and he died from the resulting organ failure. I couldn't even go to the funeral.
Fuck Gilead Pharmaceuticals and anyone who hoards their stock.
Shame, I really liked Ron, wish his son could have lived up to that billing.
My condolences for your loss. I've been lecturing my dad on avoiding Remdesivir and to get monoclonal antibody treatment (or Ivermectin, HCQ, etc.) in case anything happens.
You're going to sit out elections for life if that's the criteria. ALL of them have very likely have gotten it as federal employees. They are still under Bidens mandates due to what their job is and where they do it.
The right needs people like DeSantis willing and able to tell the Feds to fuck off at a state level. Blue states need local leaders (most likely Sheriffs but other positions too) willing and able to tell the State to fuck off at a local level.
I'd much rather have Jeb as President and DeSantis telling him to fuck off than DeSantis as President and the D.C. bureaucracy telling him to fuck off the way they did Trump.
Give it a rest /r/cuckservative. DeSantis is focused on florida. And trump's base is arguably still a significant force to be reckoned if not for state heads cucking out and letting the cheat go through.
And betting on a guy whose not even running for president isnt exactly any better either. However youre right about coof shot peddling. Man needs to stfu
I am so disappointed that I voted for Trump twice.
Alternatives were Clinton and Biden, don't feel down about choosing the lesser evil. It's politics, they go out of their way to ensure either your choice either doesn't matter or is tinged with great bitterness.
Lots of places I could reply and leave this comment, but I'll just do it here:
Trump never walks anything back. Ever. I am sure he'd still give you a quote about what a tremendous success Trump University was (until it wasn't, which was immediately) or how successful he was at running a casino.
Trump is a germaphobe - I always thought a pandemic at the start of his final year was a bit too on the nose. But fact is, he has never been logical or pragmatic about germs and disease and his enemies knew this about him.
Two isnt an excuse for his continued support of the death shots, but I think he still has a lot of people in his ear saying how effective they are (and by extension his leadership was). He falls for it every time.
But I do agree that no matter the reason he has lost a lot of his appeal.
He told the world he wasn't scared of the virus and there was no need to panic because he would fund the development of a vaccine and we'd have it within a year.
He was then ridiculed by the left as a scientifically illiterate moron and told vaccines take decades, its impossible, etc.
In NINE MONTHS they are rolling out the vaccine to the elderly, and to medical staff. The vaccine the left told him he could never get produced. He feels like the king of the world.
Then he loses the election.
Overnight, the same left wingers who told him his vaccine was crazy talk then begin aggressively pushing the vaccine. They start attacking anyone who doesn't trust the vaccine. They completely reverse their position.
Why?
So that they can claim credit for the vaccine that Trump made happen.
If Trump had won in 2020, you can bet your ass the mainstream media would be on fire with how dangerous and risky the vaccine is.
He has been politically outmaneuvered in a propaganda war.
Trump was NOT the white knight on a horse people in 2016 idealized him as, that was foolish on their part. There is no hero coming to save you or insta win button for beating the left, they took a century to get the power they now have and it's going to take that long, if not longer to push them out. The right is fucking awful at holding the line and playing the long game without going full black pill. Either fight and teach your kids to do so or know you're dooming your future generations to MUCH worse than this and get out of the way for the people who aren't quitting, this war ISN'T going to be won by us but our kids and grandkids so teach them to never submit and never get black pilled or just don't bother breeding and anhero.
I'm a big fan of Trump from before politics. That being said, his Presidency if summed up in a quote would be "You can't teach an old dog new tricks"
Despite the incompetence of your enemies, if you keep playing the same tricks they will adapt and learn.
Hopefully his story teaches lessons to people learning, every politician promises to "clean up the swamp" and get absorbed by it, now we get to see what happens when the swamp rejects it.
I think it's now safe to say that the swamp cannot be cleaned up, it's too large, too entrenched and will rally to save itself from being cleaned. And it was there before you, you just can't get it all in the limited time you have.
If there's anything to learn from this I think the first thing is that when a politician says "I'm going to clean up the fatcats in washington" they might as well be saying "I'm going to turn off the moon" it doesn't matter whether or not they are lying because it's not going to happen either way.
The right question to ask next is "Why can't the swamp be cleaned" what mechanisms exist to perpetuate it, why is it like it is now.
I miss him, but it's time to move on. He failed to act, and now fails to act to save himself, let alone, us. I fear, though, that DeSantis might not be as good as Trump could have been with a second term.
I've been done with Trump since about January of last year. There was a lot I was happy with during his presidency along with some gripes. But once it got past that point with the elections and Biden going in, it was time to move on.
He's since made it worse, and sort of confirmed my thoughts that while I think he always tried to do what he thought was best, he was way too caught up in stuff he could take credit for and neglected to do a lot of the "harder" things.
Trump is going to have problems if he keeps going as hard for the vaccine. He did say that he didn't think that young healthy people should take the vax. Trump is against mandates. He's given people the choice to vax or not to vax. He should have put a requirement to release more information from the drug companies to the public but he didn't and that's where he failed on the vax.
Last I checked, Trump wasn't demanding that people get the vaccine. Maybe things would be different if he was still in office, but maybe things would also be different if the CIA didn't exist. Sadly, we'll never fucking know. Until that moment, however, he's still leagues above Biden.
If you're going to let one stupid opinion from a boomer change your opinion of him, I don't know what to tell you.
Trump is over. I don't care what he says about anything.
He folded his tent and went home. Nancy Pelosi is still around making all of us miserable and running the Congressional shitshow while he keeps crying about himself.
Trump these days only bitches about the stolen election and pushes the clotshot.
He never talks much about the many problems people face everyday like vax mandates, inflation, the border invasion, CRT and big tech censorship.
It is always all about him and his grievances.
He told people to come on the sixth and baited many into completely ruining their lives. He then walked away without pardoning or doing anything for any of them.
Not only that but on the 6th he was still president. He was the commander in chief of the military, the FBI, the CIA, and everything else. He failed to seize the crucial moment - and then it was gone like floodwater under a bridge that thundered into the abyss 1,000 ft. below.
He had his chance and he blew it; on a number of fronts.
are we forgetting the fact that all branches of the government had it knives out for this guy? This year alone showed one of the 'top' military generals snitching on china. This country is beyond the usual way of fixing things.
Stop making excuses. As president for FOUR YEARS he could have fired every one of those military turncoats any time he wanted. But he didn't.
Ok that's one of the major things he fucked up on.
He should have never let Jared Kushner be his de facto Chief of Staff.
Jared and Ivanka are both WEF globalists.
That was arguably one of the biggest mistakes he ever made.
He should have been fearless and fired Fauci.
He just let Fauci create the biomedical security state we are now in.
Another fatal mistake.
The biggest mistake he made was wussing out on the promise to "Repeal and Replace" health services. The task was handed to the slime Paul Ryan who fucked it up twice then exited, and da Donald just moved on to something else, leaving the execrable Obamacare intact along with the rest of the broken US health care policy.
He didn't clean house of corrupt federal bureaucrats, military, and intelligence. He didn't reform Obamacare. And then we all found ourselves embroiled in a health crisis that could have been prevented if he had kept his promises.
No forgiveness. And yes Kushner was a massive wanker and a mistake.
That he can be forgiven for, you have family members around you to avoid having to rely on lobbyists and deep staters.
Worse, he put Milly in charge of the Joint Chiefs and that seems to be when all the agencies and military started lying and ignoring him. He thought he was Marcus Aurelius but turned out to be Caesar. And yeah putting Kushner, who he's STILL listening to, as defacto chief was a retarded move.
What do you think he should have done? Honestly asking.
I did hear that he convened the joint chiefs to discuss emergency powers in the event of foreign interference in our election, and they refused to go along with any such notion. Then they publicly released a letter stating that the military plays no part in US elections. I think that was treason, but they got away with it.
He’ll never talk about inflation because it’s literally his fault. He was in charge when they printed that trillion dollars, and when the mandates started, and when all the supply chains were destroyed.
You’d think it’s obvious that he’s now the swamp, but the let’s go Brandon types will donate and vote for him no matter what he does at this point.
The first trillion, yes, but what about the second trillion, or the third?
State-level mandates, which he would have had debatable legal authority to put a stop to, and primarily in states which were politically opposed to him and he had no sway.
Again, this took place primarily overseas (China, Taiwan) with their lockdowns and mandates, and in California/Los Angeles' and Washington/Seattle's jurisdictions. Some elements of Port of LA/SEA policy could have been dictated by the federal government, but most of the disruption is coming from local authorities, and has aggravated significantly since he left office, suggesting that whatever he was doing, it wasn't the absolute worst possible policy.
In short, the good and bad thing about Donald Trump is he's rich enough to live in a bubble. It's insulated him from the madness over the last 30 years, but it also means that it's tough to get new information through to him.
He knew Jared and Ivanka personally, so they got to advise on policy matters, even when they were provably wrong.
He had a positive opinion of the military, so he didn't purge it of dissenters, even when it became obvious he should.
Fauci was a known quantity, so he got to remain in place even when it became obvious that he was wrong and lying.
The vaccines are 'his' achievement, so he's flogging them long after his base lost interest.
Well I won't be voting for him ever again.
What? He spoke out against the vax mandates one week ago, and he's mentioned the rest of those things multiple times over the past year.
Trump isn't going to solve our problems but there's no reason to just lie about shit.
He's actively destroying his base. I'm not sure he'd even win a primary versus desantis.
I would love to see DeSantis embarass Trump in multiple debates and beat him in a primary.
That is what he deserves.
DeSantis is great, but I'd prefer someone who hasn't taken any shot and is openly proud of it.
Rand Paul might fit that criteria; I don't think he ever got the vac, has been openly fighting for natural immunity, and is very vocal against Faucian hysterics.
Rand Paul's wife is invested in pharma stock specifically Gilead Pharmaceuticals.
They make the poison that is Remdesivir. One of my relatives was given it as a treatment for COVID in the hospital and he died from the resulting organ failure. I couldn't even go to the funeral.
Fuck Gilead Pharmaceuticals and anyone who hoards their stock.
Shame, I really liked Ron, wish his son could have lived up to that billing.
My condolences for your loss. I've been lecturing my dad on avoiding Remdesivir and to get monoclonal antibody treatment (or Ivermectin, HCQ, etc.) in case anything happens.
Thank you for your kind words.
I am a huge fan of Ron Paul so I am also disappointed to see Rand not live up to his father's greatness.
is she invested in it becaue of insider information, or because rand is supporting the treatments?
You're going to sit out elections for life if that's the criteria. ALL of them have very likely have gotten it as federal employees. They are still under Bidens mandates due to what their job is and where they do it.
Then who?
He is the best option that I can see at the moment.
The right needs people like DeSantis willing and able to tell the Feds to fuck off at a state level. Blue states need local leaders (most likely Sheriffs but other positions too) willing and able to tell the State to fuck off at a local level.
I'd much rather have Jeb as President and DeSantis telling him to fuck off than DeSantis as President and the D.C. bureaucracy telling him to fuck off the way they did Trump.
I know of nobody, and that's unfortunate. Really feels like we're alone. But I also think strong governors are more important than the presidency.
desantis is going to be jeb 2.0 if he gets any real power. Just you wait
All he has to do is stay anti vax mandate and stop the mandates.
That is all I want and expect from him.
To think our world has gotten so bad. I want a hell of a lot more than that.
what was he doing before he was thegov?
Give it a rest /r/cuckservative. DeSantis is focused on florida. And trump's base is arguably still a significant force to be reckoned if not for state heads cucking out and letting the cheat go through.
I am no cuckservative.
I have been part of the base since he first came down that escalator.
I voted for him twice and tried to get as many people as possible that I knew to vote for him.
I am a part of the base and I wholly reject you trying to say that I am not.
I will never say the steal didn't happen.
The left stole it clearly by flooding the election with mail in ballots. He sadly did nothing to stop it.
I just am sick and tired of him merely bitching about the steal and pushing the clotshot.
And betting on a guy whose not even running for president isnt exactly any better either. However youre right about coof shot peddling. Man needs to stfu
I am not betting on anything.
I just want someone who doesn't constantly push the clotshots.
Trump should know better after the Alabama rally and the Dallas rally where he was booed openly for being a pharma salesman.
I really hope DeSantis runs since I cannot see a better option than him at this current point of time.
Too bad desantis prioritized flordia. And thats for the better because imagine losing florida.
He won't stop bragging about this shitty clotshot even though he knows his base doesn't want it at all.
As much as I despise Brandon, I now despise Orange Man as well for not shutting up about the clotshots.
I am so disappointed that I voted for Trump twice.
I am at the point where I won't vote at all in 2024 if this loud orange buffoon is the R nominee.
Alternatives were Clinton and Biden, don't feel down about choosing the lesser evil. It's politics, they go out of their way to ensure either your choice either doesn't matter or is tinged with great bitterness.
Well said.
It just really sucks to realize that Trump is not on our side as he constantly fucks us by pushing the clotshots.
Lots of places I could reply and leave this comment, but I'll just do it here:
Trump never walks anything back. Ever. I am sure he'd still give you a quote about what a tremendous success Trump University was (until it wasn't, which was immediately) or how successful he was at running a casino.
Trump is a germaphobe - I always thought a pandemic at the start of his final year was a bit too on the nose. But fact is, he has never been logical or pragmatic about germs and disease and his enemies knew this about him.
Two isnt an excuse for his continued support of the death shots, but I think he still has a lot of people in his ear saying how effective they are (and by extension his leadership was). He falls for it every time.
But I do agree that no matter the reason he has lost a lot of his appeal.
Of course he won't, because he has a massive ego and it was HIS IDEA.
Why? Who the fuck else were you going to vote for?
I obviously was not going to vote for the Ds or an useless third party.
It just feels bad to see the guy you thought was on your side just come out over and over and keep fucking you by pushing the clotshots.
His pride and ego won't let him do anything else.
He told the world he wasn't scared of the virus and there was no need to panic because he would fund the development of a vaccine and we'd have it within a year.
He was then ridiculed by the left as a scientifically illiterate moron and told vaccines take decades, its impossible, etc.
In NINE MONTHS they are rolling out the vaccine to the elderly, and to medical staff. The vaccine the left told him he could never get produced. He feels like the king of the world.
Then he loses the election.
Overnight, the same left wingers who told him his vaccine was crazy talk then begin aggressively pushing the vaccine. They start attacking anyone who doesn't trust the vaccine. They completely reverse their position.
Why?
So that they can claim credit for the vaccine that Trump made happen.
If Trump had won in 2020, you can bet your ass the mainstream media would be on fire with how dangerous and risky the vaccine is.
He has been politically outmaneuvered in a propaganda war.
and also how the company hid that the vacc was 'complete' until after drumpf lost the eleciton. he should hate these companies, roflmao
Trump was NOT the white knight on a horse people in 2016 idealized him as, that was foolish on their part. There is no hero coming to save you or insta win button for beating the left, they took a century to get the power they now have and it's going to take that long, if not longer to push them out. The right is fucking awful at holding the line and playing the long game without going full black pill. Either fight and teach your kids to do so or know you're dooming your future generations to MUCH worse than this and get out of the way for the people who aren't quitting, this war ISN'T going to be won by us but our kids and grandkids so teach them to never submit and never get black pilled or just don't bother breeding and anhero.
Don't feel bad, we could of gotten Hillary or Bernie in 2016.
I'm a big fan of Trump from before politics. That being said, his Presidency if summed up in a quote would be "You can't teach an old dog new tricks"
Despite the incompetence of your enemies, if you keep playing the same tricks they will adapt and learn.
Hopefully his story teaches lessons to people learning, every politician promises to "clean up the swamp" and get absorbed by it, now we get to see what happens when the swamp rejects it.
I think it's now safe to say that the swamp cannot be cleaned up, it's too large, too entrenched and will rally to save itself from being cleaned. And it was there before you, you just can't get it all in the limited time you have.
If there's anything to learn from this I think the first thing is that when a politician says "I'm going to clean up the fatcats in washington" they might as well be saying "I'm going to turn off the moon" it doesn't matter whether or not they are lying because it's not going to happen either way.
The right question to ask next is "Why can't the swamp be cleaned" what mechanisms exist to perpetuate it, why is it like it is now.
The dems are outplaying him politically. They know that 24 will be an uphill debate.
I miss him, but it's time to move on. He failed to act, and now fails to act to save himself, let alone, us. I fear, though, that DeSantis might not be as good as Trump could have been with a second term.
If there is any catharsis to come of him, he may get people to tell him to fuck off and not take it out of spite.
I've been done with Trump since about January of last year. There was a lot I was happy with during his presidency along with some gripes. But once it got past that point with the elections and Biden going in, it was time to move on.
He's since made it worse, and sort of confirmed my thoughts that while I think he always tried to do what he thought was best, he was way too caught up in stuff he could take credit for and neglected to do a lot of the "harder" things.
DeSantis 2024
Ngl, seeing this “community” turn against arrogant orange billionaire shithead has been the highlight of my day, lol…
About time!!
And it’s been a fucking terrible day, over here, so I needed a pick me up. Good shit. 👍🏻
Well, glad to hear my disappointment in the orange man has made someone's day better!
I hope you are doing alright man.
Trump is going to have problems if he keeps going as hard for the vaccine. He did say that he didn't think that young healthy people should take the vax. Trump is against mandates. He's given people the choice to vax or not to vax. He should have put a requirement to release more information from the drug companies to the public but he didn't and that's where he failed on the vax.
Last I checked, Trump wasn't demanding that people get the vaccine. Maybe things would be different if he was still in office, but maybe things would also be different if the CIA didn't exist. Sadly, we'll never fucking know. Until that moment, however, he's still leagues above Biden.
If you're going to let one stupid opinion from a boomer change your opinion of him, I don't know what to tell you.