They did the same with John McCain and GW Bush. 6 years ago those guys were the enemy but then they started talking shit about Trump so they got their dicks sucked as well.
he attempted the same thing with AIDS GRIDs as he did with COVID. pushed for vaccines vaccines vaccines. What ended up saving the gays was of course, therapeutics, the same with COVID. But that doesnt make his Big Pharma special interest groups happy.
and hes been through what, 5 previous presidents? The tyranny of the unelected technocracy is much much worse than your representatives, at least you have a chance to oust those people.
Didn't stop businesses around the country from getting shut down by the government and storm troopers enforcing bullshit blue curfews in an effort to collapse the economy and seize power.
That the right doesn't take the necessary steps and waits for the left to take them instead is why we lose.
you can some of the time, but not all the time every time. that is what the left dont understand. But the problem is if citizens rebel, the media controls the narrative. The rebelling citizens will be labeled racist white supremacist nazi christian Trump supporters.
They don't even attempt to find out if it's true or not. It's just immediate full collectivist rallying around the authority figure now that their virtue signaling may be threatened
MSNBC had a short about how defunding the police was causing a problem because people were blaming Democrats.
To them, the problem wasn't skyrocketing crime but that Democrats were going to get blamed for skyrocketing crime.
A few weeks later Pisssack started pushing propaganda from her pulpit about how Republicans were defunding police. In a just society she would not be allowed to breathe any longer.
This reads to me like the headline I would write to troll-post a leftist sub. Wake up a few of the blind followers, and get some solid rage-bait from the diehard scum.
Could be real, though. Poe's Law might as well have been added to the Constitution in 2014... though we've been ignoring that so much, I doubt it would give it any extra weight.
This shit isn't just damning for Fauci. It's damning for "science." So much of science as it is practiced is a self licking ice cream cone. Bunch of people go into science but then fuck you got to eat so you write up a grant proposal and boom american money is paying someone in north africa to feed dogs to sand ticks and why? Eh, to spread liberal- democracy- I guess-
None of this really makes sense. And we're the extremists because we question why our tax money is going to this absolutely garbage. And it isn't that it's cruel it's that it's pointlessly cruel. None of this is real science, "oh we gave beagles sand aids, maybe it will jump to humans; lets try that next."
Exactly, and it's not like we don't know this but somehow this is different than trying to crossbreed women with dogs or using twins to study differentials like Mengele and the doctors at camp 731. I guess 'science' is back to being whatever a guy in a white coat decides might make for a meaty writeup.
Is there though? The results of this are written up in a paper no one will ever read, "Transmisability of Sand Aids to Beagles" or some shit. It's make work for unethical eggheads.
FYI this story came out in August, and the scientists in the study said there was NO scientific reason to run this study.
It was conducted because he needed to use all the money in the budget, there was absolutely nothing learned of scientific importance from the study, in fact a previous study that was nearly identical already proved the hypothesis they were testing for.
You'd think they would go buy the finest coke and strippers or something, not 'heheh let's watch hungry insects devour puppy brains and take out their vocal cords cuz that's an annoying sound they make when they're in pain'
I think they will do the same or worse to us if we go to their camps
why not just give the fucking money back instead of wasting it?
I see you've never been part of a budget meeting where an entire budget wasn't used.
In Government especially they are in a constant battle for more funding, whether they need it or not.
Because it is so competitive for money anyone who doesn't use their full budget has their next years budget cut to the amount used.
They can't just keep the money, they can't pay out bonuses, they have to use it 'as intended' which results in insane things done by the US military, the DEA / FBI / CIA etc. because they suddenly have their budgets increased and they just don't know how the hell to spend it all.
You wouldn't believe the amount of 'research' that gets approved that has little to no purpose simply because they need to max out their budget for the year and don't have any better way to spend it.
I'll see if I can find the article that quotes the scientists, it was from when the first story broke.
They could also argue that Gain of Function testing is necessary and yields useful information we can use to fight novel viruses.
But yes that does sound like the excuse they will come up with when they can no longer ignore the story. "This happens all the time, it's unfortunate but important work."
it becomes another tool and becomes too easy to use
This is exactly what has happened. People broadly but begrudging support animal testing in cases where it is truly necessary, usually for testing important life-saving medication. Most people do not support animal testing in cases where some sociopath scientist needs to test his absurdly stupid idea or some greedy corporation needs to make sure their unnecessary chemical additives wonāt kill you.
I think most people, like myself view it as a nessasary evil at best and something we really should be putting all that computing power we've been building up over the years towards supplanting it. I want animal testing to have clear goals and minimize the suffering of the participants. They spent more money ensuring the Mengele wannabes were comfortable than the dogs, that shouldn't sit right with anyone.
Yeah, I canāt see the āethical tradeoffā hereā¦
Itās just āscienceā for the sake of āscienceā, and for grant money, and because they can (and arguably for the sake of cruelty itself), as innumerate other people here have pointed outā¦
Thereās no value in this. And I say this as a literal scientist-in-training, who has had to do live invertebrate experiments beforeā¦
I would refuse to do something like this, though. Or rats. Or fucking tuna, which is more relevant, in my caseā¦
It justā¦ Doesnāt sit well with me, as a āscience personā.
For some of my classmates, though? I could TOTALLY see them participating in a āstudyā like this one, if they could somehow convince themselves it was āworthwhileā or āvalidā. Or even just to get praise heaped on them by ādaddy professorāā¦ š
Even my parents, who are LITERALLY MEDICAL DOCTORS, have no qualms about justifying this, and would happily have participated, if it was āofferedā when they were at med schoolā¦
Politics aside, just what was the purpose of this experiment? I know this pisses a lot of people off, but I still want to know what the fuck triggered them to do this. It's fucking disgusting.
I've never understood why this guy is considered an expert. He fucked up with AIDS, he fucked up with H1N1, he fucked up with Covid.
A three year old flipping a coin would make better decisions. Just be careful with letting Biden near the kid.
Because he talked shit about Trump. That's literally his only qualification for the media to suck his dick.
They did the same with John McCain and GW Bush. 6 years ago those guys were the enemy but then they started talking shit about Trump so they got their dicks sucked as well.
he attempted the same thing with
AIDSGRIDs as he did with COVID. pushed for vaccines vaccines vaccines. What ended up saving the gays was of course, therapeutics, the same with COVID. But that doesnt make his Big Pharma special interest groups happy.Yeah he's a professional shill for Big Pharma. His job is basically PR, advertising, and regulation, but under the veil of being a medical expert.
and hes been through what, 5 previous presidents? The tyranny of the unelected technocracy is much much worse than your representatives, at least you have a chance to oust those people.
He also has a huge painting of himself hanging above his desk in his home office. This faggot views himself as a savior of mankind.
That said, if gays had been on the receiving end of Fauci style lockdowns, the straight population might have been spared HIV.
lol. you cant control peoples behavior.
Didn't stop businesses around the country from getting shut down by the government and storm troopers enforcing bullshit blue curfews in an effort to collapse the economy and seize power.
That the right doesn't take the necessary steps and waits for the left to take them instead is why we lose.
you can some of the time, but not all the time every time. that is what the left dont understand. But the problem is if citizens rebel, the media controls the narrative. The rebelling citizens will be labeled racist white supremacist nazi christian Trump supporters.
CNN said he was an expert so he is.
They don't even attempt to find out if it's true or not. It's just immediate full collectivist rallying around the authority figure now that their virtue signaling may be threatened
MSNBC had a short about how defunding the police was causing a problem because people were blaming Democrats.
To them, the problem wasn't skyrocketing crime but that Democrats were going to get blamed for skyrocketing crime.
A few weeks later Pisssack started pushing propaganda from her pulpit about how Republicans were defunding police. In a just society she would not be allowed to breathe any longer.
I just hope someone's keeping track for when the collapse comes. Too many people who deserve this fate to remember them all
This reads to me like the headline I would write to troll-post a leftist sub. Wake up a few of the blind followers, and get some solid rage-bait from the diehard scum.
Could be real, though. Poe's Law might as well have been added to the Constitution in 2014... though we've been ignoring that so much, I doubt it would give it any extra weight.
This shit isn't just damning for Fauci. It's damning for "science." So much of science as it is practiced is a self licking ice cream cone. Bunch of people go into science but then fuck you got to eat so you write up a grant proposal and boom american money is paying someone in north africa to feed dogs to sand ticks and why? Eh, to spread liberal- democracy- I guess-
None of this really makes sense. And we're the extremists because we question why our tax money is going to this absolutely garbage. And it isn't that it's cruel it's that it's pointlessly cruel. None of this is real science, "oh we gave beagles sand aids, maybe it will jump to humans; lets try that next."
Exactly, and it's not like we don't know this but somehow this is different than trying to crossbreed women with dogs or using twins to study differentials like Mengele and the doctors at camp 731. I guess 'science' is back to being whatever a guy in a white coat decides might make for a meaty writeup.
I'm not even an animal person, but I hate seeing it.
These people are such NPCs.
Literally asking for programming
Is there though? The results of this are written up in a paper no one will ever read, "Transmisability of Sand Aids to Beagles" or some shit. It's make work for unethical eggheads.
FYI this story came out in August, and the scientists in the study said there was NO scientific reason to run this study.
It was conducted because he needed to use all the money in the budget, there was absolutely nothing learned of scientific importance from the study, in fact a previous study that was nearly identical already proved the hypothesis they were testing for.
I'm hungry for some SAUCE on this. I need to know why they did this - why not just give the fucking money back instead of wasting it?
I know the answer though - because they can, because it's government but surely we have something better than just that.
This is a cardinal sin in government. If you don't use your budget, your budget will be adjusted DOWN next fiscal year.
You'd think they would go buy the finest coke and strippers or something, not 'heheh let's watch hungry insects devour puppy brains and take out their vocal cords cuz that's an annoying sound they make when they're in pain'
I think they will do the same or worse to us if we go to their camps
Say your mommy and daddy give you $10 to run a lemonade stand....
I see you've never been part of a budget meeting where an entire budget wasn't used.
In Government especially they are in a constant battle for more funding, whether they need it or not.
Because it is so competitive for money anyone who doesn't use their full budget has their next years budget cut to the amount used.
They can't just keep the money, they can't pay out bonuses, they have to use it 'as intended' which results in insane things done by the US military, the DEA / FBI / CIA etc. because they suddenly have their budgets increased and they just don't know how the hell to spend it all.
You wouldn't believe the amount of 'research' that gets approved that has little to no purpose simply because they need to max out their budget for the year and don't have any better way to spend it.
I'll see if I can find the article that quotes the scientists, it was from when the first story broke.
Is there really?
They could also argue that Gain of Function testing is necessary and yields useful information we can use to fight novel viruses.
But yes that does sound like the excuse they will come up with when they can no longer ignore the story. "This happens all the time, it's unfortunate but important work."
This is exactly what has happened. People broadly but begrudging support animal testing in cases where it is truly necessary, usually for testing important life-saving medication. Most people do not support animal testing in cases where some sociopath scientist needs to test his absurdly stupid idea or some greedy corporation needs to make sure their unnecessary chemical additives wonāt kill you.
I think most people, like myself view it as a nessasary evil at best and something we really should be putting all that computing power we've been building up over the years towards supplanting it. I want animal testing to have clear goals and minimize the suffering of the participants. They spent more money ensuring the Mengele wannabes were comfortable than the dogs, that shouldn't sit right with anyone.
Yeah, I canāt see the āethical tradeoffā hereā¦
Itās just āscienceā for the sake of āscienceā, and for grant money, and because they can (and arguably for the sake of cruelty itself), as innumerate other people here have pointed outā¦
Thereās no value in this. And I say this as a literal scientist-in-training, who has had to do live invertebrate experiments beforeā¦
I would refuse to do something like this, though. Or rats. Or fucking tuna, which is more relevant, in my caseā¦
It justā¦ Doesnāt sit well with me, as a āscience personā.
For some of my classmates, though? I could TOTALLY see them participating in a āstudyā like this one, if they could somehow convince themselves it was āworthwhileā or āvalidā. Or even just to get praise heaped on them by ādaddy professorāā¦ š
Even my parents, who are LITERALLY MEDICAL DOCTORS, have no qualms about justifying this, and would happily have participated, if it was āofferedā when they were at med schoolā¦
Fucking makes me sick, man. š
What's the purpose of that particular experiment, though?
"Fauci did something terrible, what do I think of it?" Absolute dumbshits on reddit.
The post for those who are curious: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/qfmn4g/what_to_make_of_the_fauci_beagle_dilemma/
Lol: https://i.imgur.com/nhitBZM.png
Rofl
You're not Liberals, you're puppy butchers... which is another way of saying Leftist.
There isn't a person or thing a leftist won't butcher in the name of the greater good.
They would kill everyone and everything in order to be a hall monitor for a tyrunt.
Politics aside, just what was the purpose of this experiment? I know this pisses a lot of people off, but I still want to know what the fuck triggered them to do this. It's fucking disgusting.
As far as I can tell. To expend the remainder of their budget.
"Please, tell me what to think? I can't doublethink my way around it!"
To crucify this guy now would to be admit they fucked up in trusting the vaccine amongst other things.
Where can I read about this. I hear discussion but where is this reported