I'm not sure how this situation happened (I assume details aren't out yet anyway) but with Brandon Lee the issue was the gun had to appear loaded but also be able to fire a blank. The easiest thing to do is use a real gun and two different types of prop ammo (rounds with bullets but no powder or primer, and rounds with powder and primer but no bullets (blanks)). They could avoid this by having two types of prop guns, one that can appear loaded but has no firing pin, and one that has a firing pin but which can only chamber blanks. The situation that killed Brandon Lee was one in a million (or at least seemed to be previous to this) and the extra effort wouldn't be worth it especially because they incorrectly left the primer in the no powder or primer round.
Better yet, don't play make believe with real guns. Hollywood gets shit wrong all the time, from fwd cars drifting to katanas cutting guns/swords in half. They can afford to use a fake gun on screen.
Some tv shows use post processing effects for gun fights nowadays. You can see the guns fire and have muzzle flash but there's no blowback. Doesn't look great but if you're not paying attention you won't even notice the difference.
They also need to check the barrel. In the case of Brandon Lee they knew the chamber had a blank round but they didn't know there was a bullet in the barrel.
It would likely need to be redesigned for every model of gun. Easier to just not be a dumbass.
Personally I would check the barrel (for squibs) and every round I'm given before I would aim a gun at another human being. I can't imagine the level of sheltered you have to be to be handed a real ass gun that can detonate real ass bullets and just be ok with aiming it at an innocent person.
Why not at least a camera where the operator can control it remotely? I'm pretty sure that already exists. It would make more sense to use something like that rather than ever have someone need to physically stand in the line of fire. I sure as hell wouldn't stand in front of anyone firing a gun, regardless of what it's loaded with.
Used to be they just used a mirror. Like, you know, when a train is coming through and blasting everything in its path, you dont want the camera getting smashed. Figure, same thing there, right?
They do. It depends on the production. Studios are more than capable of cgi'ing the flash of a gun firing a bullet. That probably costs more money than firing blanks and is probably harder to act to since they would then need to "imagine" the gun shot.
What wonderful irony. Where's you gun control now, you selfish little piggy? If that bloated fuck had any principles, he would have refused using guns in movies. Well, now Alec Baldwin has killed and wounded more people with a gun than most legal gun owners.
Tim's video on this apparently says that Baldwin IDIOTICALLY pointed the gun at both the director and the producer in a joking manner and "pretended" to fire it. Still a rumor but that lines up with how fucking irresponsible this douchebag was with it.
If only there were an organization that taught gun safety, including how to be sure that a weapon is clear, always assume every gun is loaded, and never point a weapon at anyone you do not wish to kill.
Just goes to show, those most passionate about gun control are like that because they don't necessarily trust themselves with firearms. Because they are impulsive idiots with them, they conclude so is everyone else. Explains a lot behind progressive thinking, really.
He also killed more people that Derek Chauvin.
kek but are we sure Chauvin hasn't had to light anyone up in the pre-Fentanyl era?
if he had the media wouldn't have shut up about it.
How does Hollywood still not have a prop gun that cannot hold or fire actual projectiles?
I'm not sure how this situation happened (I assume details aren't out yet anyway) but with Brandon Lee the issue was the gun had to appear loaded but also be able to fire a blank. The easiest thing to do is use a real gun and two different types of prop ammo (rounds with bullets but no powder or primer, and rounds with powder and primer but no bullets (blanks)). They could avoid this by having two types of prop guns, one that can appear loaded but has no firing pin, and one that has a firing pin but which can only chamber blanks. The situation that killed Brandon Lee was one in a million (or at least seemed to be previous to this) and the extra effort wouldn't be worth it especially because they incorrectly left the primer in the no powder or primer round.
They probably should stop making the rounds by hand and contract an ammunition company to make it for them.
But that'd be "funding the gun lobby" or something so they can't do that.
Really all the needs to happen is people not be fucking stupid and check the damn chamber before playing make believe.
Better yet, don't play make believe with real guns. Hollywood gets shit wrong all the time, from fwd cars drifting to katanas cutting guns/swords in half. They can afford to use a fake gun on screen.
Some tv shows use post processing effects for gun fights nowadays. You can see the guns fire and have muzzle flash but there's no blowback. Doesn't look great but if you're not paying attention you won't even notice the difference.
There are airsoft guns that do the same kind of blowback and look identical to their real world counterparts except to the eagle-eyed.
Amen
They also need to check the barrel. In the case of Brandon Lee they knew the chamber had a blank round but they didn't know there was a bullet in the barrel.
Yes. The one in a million situation.
We better let the dust settle with this Baldwin incident before drawing conclusions. Seems questionable.
It would likely need to be redesigned for every model of gun. Easier to just not be a dumbass.
Personally I would check the barrel (for squibs) and every round I'm given before I would aim a gun at another human being. I can't imagine the level of sheltered you have to be to be handed a real ass gun that can detonate real ass bullets and just be ok with aiming it at an innocent person.
Why not at least a camera where the operator can control it remotely? I'm pretty sure that already exists. It would make more sense to use something like that rather than ever have someone need to physically stand in the line of fire. I sure as hell wouldn't stand in front of anyone firing a gun, regardless of what it's loaded with.
Used to be they just used a mirror. Like, you know, when a train is coming through and blasting everything in its path, you dont want the camera getting smashed. Figure, same thing there, right?
They do. It depends on the production. Studios are more than capable of cgi'ing the flash of a gun firing a bullet. That probably costs more money than firing blanks and is probably harder to act to since they would then need to "imagine" the gun shot.
What wonderful irony. Where's you gun control now, you selfish little piggy? If that bloated fuck had any principles, he would have refused using guns in movies. Well, now Alec Baldwin has killed and wounded more people with a gun than most legal gun owners.
Tim's video on this apparently says that Baldwin IDIOTICALLY pointed the gun at both the director and the producer in a joking manner and "pretended" to fire it. Still a rumor but that lines up with how fucking irresponsible this douchebag was with it.
If only there were an organization that taught gun safety, including how to be sure that a weapon is clear, always assume every gun is loaded, and never point a weapon at anyone you do not wish to kill.
Where was the armourer they're supposed to have legally on set? "Rules for thee" when it comes to Hollywood.
Probably busy doing what half any of the cast or crew does on a set, getting drunk or high.
This production likely cared more about the vax status of all cast and crew than whether or not a gun was fucking loaded with live ammunition.
Someone without money would've been ARRESTED ON THE SPOT.
Why the fuck isn't this guy in custody?
Someone who isn't white would've been ARRESTED ON THE SPOT...
The man has a D behind his name - case closed.
https://twitter.com/som3thingwicked/status/1451532477546254339
Just goes to show, those most passionate about gun control are like that because they don't necessarily trust themselves with firearms. Because they are impulsive idiots with them, they conclude so is everyone else. Explains a lot behind progressive thinking, really.
And with a "fake" gun at that!
ooo - then again... Prop Gun Fired by Alec Baldwin Contained Live Bullet, Says IATSE Local 44 — UPDATE https://www.indiewire.com/2021/10/alec-baldwin-fires-gun-kills-cinematographer-wounds-director-on-rust-set-1234673555/
Hmm...
Related.