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Picked these up today. Hopefully I can change some minds with these. “White privilege and systematic racism are what happens when the demand for racism far exceeds the supply”. (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 years ago by Smith1980 4 years ago by Smith1980 +57 / -0
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– ThatYellowBastard 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

Not to be a wet blanket, but I've found that it's extremely difficult to encourage free thinking in individuals. While I don't disagree that they should be reading those books, I've had more success with asking indefensible, thought provoking questions.

For example, asking how judging and perceiving people differently based on race is any way in line with MLKs ideas. Or in the case of WuFlu, asking if vaccines don't prevent infection, when do the lockdowns end?

It doesn't really work on leftists, but it does work on normies.

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– Happily_Grim 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Doing that while mixing in real world statistics and history is always a pretty effective tool.
 

For instance, there's this widespread belief that police brutality is out of control.
But there's been studies done that show that in all cases police hesitate much more to use force when a black person is involved as opposed to a white person. The reason being that they don't want to be perceived as "racist" if the do use force — which obviously happens regardless.
 

There are over 900,000 active duty police officers in the United States.
Each one has countless encounters with the public every single year. In 2019, there were 9 unarmed black men killed by police — 13 if you include off-duty police officers.
That's out of a black population of 42,000,0000+. If you do that math, that means 0.00000225% of unarmed blacks are killed by police each year.
For comparison, while committing significantly less violent crimes, 25 unarmed whites were killed by police that year. It's also worth noting that 48 Police Officers were killed in the line of duty.
 

So tell me, how, exactly, is the black community the victim of "police hunting down and shooting them indiscriminately" when all data points to that absolutely not being the case?
They can miss me with their paranoid hysterics and ghost stories. I did my homework on the topic.

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– ThatYellowBastard 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I know that, you know that, but I can just see a normie tuning out once it gets beyond two sentences. Remember, we're dealing with someone that's used to easily digestible soundbites, feelings, and very dumbed down and distilled ideas.

The police brutality thing admittedly is a lot harder to bring around because so much of it relies on statistics.

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– censorthisss 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Plus, most of those unarmed shootings were justified use of force.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– Kweebecker 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Well, I mean they're probably unarmed at least SOME of the time, even if they ARE Americans...

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– Smith1980 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed. I don’t know how they get away with the “hunting down” narratives

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– Smith1980 [S] 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I did have success when I got a friend to see that the police narrative the media spouts is a lie. But mostly you are right. I’ve tried to get people to see that racism isn’t everywhere or how they can co demon racism but be racist to whites.

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– current_horror 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

One of my go-to arguments: why are there more men than women in prison? Because men commit more crimes, right? Then why are there more black people than white people in prison?

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– ThatYellowBastard 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I really wish I could hook people with that one, especially with the new stats being 12/55 for 2020. I did manage to break it all the way down with one person to the less than 1% figure before their brain exploded and they walked away without saying anything.

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– MargarineMongoose 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

You know as well as I do that you can't change people's minds using information.

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– deleted 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I've found that most people don't put a lot of thought into their opinions on these things. If you're not a total dick to them they'll usually listen politely but be unpersuaded in the end. It doesn't mean you wasted your time, it just means they need more exposure to your ideas over time. It's very rare for a single conversation to convince someone to change their minds, if only because of inertia. It took me years of being unconformable with the left's tactics to embrace the right. It would have taken longer if the retards in charge of my state had left me the fuck alone.

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– Smith1980 [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Sad but true. I’ve had little success.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The best you can hope for is to present your arguments so that when people are ready for them at some point in the future (presumably after they've experienced something in their life that makes them ready to listen) you can present them in a way where they will listen.

I heard and read many things I wasn't ready to accept until last year, and it would have been impossible for me to accept them had last year not happened. And it was impossible for me to not accept them having experienced last year.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I know that all too well. Tried that with you and boy, did you triple down!

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Get fucked you Red Sea pedestrian.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

hahahahahaha See? Thanks for proving me right.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

How did those books manage to not get censored? I know there's books talking about how white privilege is the new original sin, but they tend to get pulled down by shit companies like Amazon.

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– Smith1980 [S] 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I was honestly surprised. I remember the author of one of these books wa Los on Larry Elders show so I made a mental note to check them out.

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– censorthisss 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

For the most part, Amazon sells everything and only pulls something when Twitter gets in a tizzy about a specific book.

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– DivvyDivet 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

"I CANT BREATH "

If you can't breathe you won't have air to talk. Vocal chords require an exhale.

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– elleand202 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Slight devil's advocate: It doesn't mean that your lungs are absorbing O2, like when you take a fatal dose of fentanyl (add meth for extra excited delirium).

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– Ahaus667 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I’ve read hate crime hoax, very good book that doesn’t play favorites.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– MaximumHonk 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Calm down John Cena's penis, we're not all the most tech savvy.

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– Smith1980 [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I’ll remember next time

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– realerfunction 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

hate crimes are blood libel

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