Paypal shuts down conservative, veteran-owned company FakeMaskUSA – freezes nearly $100k in their money
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I don't get why people keep using PayPal, but I especially don't get why they don't learn from the mistakes of others that have been burned. If you absolutely must use it (and you don't) then attach the PayPal account to its own dedicated checking account and get that money to an account unaffiliated with PayPal ASAP except a small amount to cover any returns.
I really doubt that's what happened. The poll watchers' crime was letting themselves get kicked out, and thinking the police would help them get back in. (they didn't) I remember one woman did stand up to them, but the poll manager threatened her with violence.
He did shut down the government over the spending ceiling, remember?
What financial services would you recommend they use instead?
EFT/ACH. I don't get the fascination with credit cards. With eft, companies legally can't fuck with you the same way they do with credit cards. Similar to how landline phone companies can't censor you the way Facebook chat can. The old tech isn't nearly as susceptible to modern whims of bias.
Thanks! Would this basically be the same thing as an "e-check"?
Yep, exactly.
The boomercons, ugh. I wish they weren't so ignorant, but "if wishes were fishes..."
The thing that annoys me is it's almost as if it's a willful ignorance. Twitter's boomercons aside, I got a real taste of that late last year. This private firing range I'm a member of sent out the agenda for their yearly meeting and one of the items was a vote on doing away with the required National Rifle Association membership to join. Not two or three days later they send emails out to everyone making it clear they loooove America and looooove the Second Amendment and loooove the NRA and all the good, honest work it does to pRoTeCt ThE fReEdOm of all Americans to shoot guns. The range completely backtracked from even having a vote and groveled, explaining how they hated even having to consider it but the insurance rates were so expensive and they were 100% committed to the NRA and what it does to "protect" gun owners.
A gigantic crock of baloney if you've done even the slightest bit of research on that sorry excuse of a protector of the 2nd Amendment. The slightest bit.
The boomercons have their goddamn heads in the sand and they don't know and most of all don't care they're buried in sand. This is in a rural area in the Southern US so God only knows how awful it is elsewhere.
What a joy to know that's today's Right-wing America.
They're the ones who use "Demonrats" in comments. Ffs....
I despise the overgrown children who employ such rhetoric. They just as much of an enemy as the left as far as I'm concerned.
Realistically there aren't alternatives.
Yes, because so many online transactions can be paid in crypto
/s
They just have to shut down the crypto to legal tender pipelines, which is a lot simpler.
There needs to be an authoritative guide written that deals with these topics. It would be ideal if Andrew Torba were to write it, but barring that, I'd be happy to throw a quick post together.
Then, that guide needs to be distributed everywhere.
The problem with the dissident sphere is that all good info is so scattered, and also that all the websites are ephemeral forums focused on "news" rather than repositories of knowledge focused on practical advice.
Any advice you have to offer would be appreciated, since you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable guys in this thread.
Isn't that like everyone on that America's traitor list?
Thanks! This is a good list to avoid. I'll have to ask around and find some alternatives to these.
Also go to Gab and join the group alt tech (the one with the most followers) and scroll and learn.
Information in our space is very poorly distributed. Many business-owners may have not even heard of these cases.
This is a great recommendation.
Do you have any recommendations for other services?
As far as payment processors?
There is Cornerstone, a Christian payment processor that might be willing to get behind this, though they have a bit of a checkered past with data security.
There are the mainstream Stripe, Square and smaller ones like Shopify Payments and FastSpring that are either definitely or likely run by regressives, but at least have less of a history of running off with money and act as a check on PayPal's market dominance.
Checks, money orders, and bank transfers are a PITA for customers and businesses, but might be the way forward for avoiding regressive censorship. It's probably a good idea to have a backup plan involving them if nothing else.
There really is no perfect solution, but just not using PayPal is a start.
There's also Dan Bongino's AlignPay, though I haven't seen it being used anywhere and don't know how reliable they are yet because it's pretty new.
Thanks! I mean to write a short guide about this, so everything helps.
I am not sure why theft is legal in the US.
Everything for the narrative, nothing against the narrative, nothing outside the narrative.
Strange how "it's a private company, they can do what they want" only applies to us.
Case in point: onlyfans.
My money's on an entry point in the US-Mexico border wall.
They also use Stripe, so they're fucked; Stripe is converged.
Dude, Stripe is the fucking enemy.
MasterCard, Bank of America, and JP Morgan Chase aren't subverted... they are the fucking attackers.
Coinbase also shuts down known right wing accounts.
It's pretty retarded on the FakeMaskUSA's part to be dealing with PayPal. They have been known to freeze funds for "controversial" companies since the early 2000s.
They sold $100k worth of those? I need a gag product idea.
https://bagofdicks.com/
Poop Senders is my favorite gag product site. Never used them (and not sure if it is strictly legal due to the potential health concerns), but it's surprisingly comforting to know that if I ever need to send someone "3 pounds of steamy elephant poop" to people, I know who to contact.
I agree, but at least they have a good product. I was always critical of Black Rifle Coffee for being nothing more than right wing virtue signaling.
I don't have a problem if he were doing something illegal. He wasn't. He did something that offended the sensibilities of a corporation. That's the quintessential definition of fascism folks. Mussolini would be proud.
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.</p>\n","rawContent":"So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business). \r\n\rNow how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues. \r\n\rMore PP shittery:
Based joke team-
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.</p>\n","rawContent":"So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business). \r\n\rNow how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues. \r\n\rMore PP shittery:
Based joke team-
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.</p>\n","rawContent":"So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business). \r\n\rNow how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues. \r\n\rMore PP shittery:
Based joke team-
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.</p>\n","rawContent":"So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business). \r\n\rNow how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues. \r\n\rMore PP shittery:
Based joke team-
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.</p>\n","rawContent":"So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business). \r\n\rNow how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues. \r\n\rMore PP shittery:
Based joke team-
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.</p>\n","rawContent":"So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business). \r\n\rNow how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues. \r\n\rMore PP shittery:
Based joke team-
Sounds like a good lawsuit against deep pockets. Maybe some free notoriety as well.
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team-
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.
So they shut it down because it gives people fake noncomplying masks (although I dont know what that technically is, that appears to be the reason that paypal went full gestapo on this business).
Now how are they different from someone witb a regular gaiter that does almost nothing anyways? Idk. Should these be ILLEGAL? idk, they should have a warning that they are not medically approved, and that they're gag items, and that shoukd cover most legal issues.
More PP shittery:
That SHOULDNT be legal. At ALL...
Another thing that SHOULD be illegal.
Based joke team-
good article op, fuck cancel culture and fuck paypal for stealing people's money with no resistence.
I was actually going to try to get my hands on something like that so I could burn up my airline credits. Maybe they will take crypto or something if they are actually shut down from payment processors.
Oh, and I've hated PayPal for 15 years at least. Their terms of service are a total disaster for any sort of thinking the money is yours.
LOL. .WIN WASNT ACCEPTING MY POST, AND IT POSTED IT A MILLION TIMES WITH FUCKING CODE. LMAO
There needs to be a quick-and-ready guide for people seeking to set up a new business, who want it to be secure and have ownership of their own funds.
They probably just thought they could start a business and run it like anyone else using the most convenient and popular tools.
They could have been smarter, but I don't blame them - it's the system that's fucked up. And we haven't really built alternatives yet, and those that do exist, the masses haven't heard about or don't know how to use.
How the ef did this happen?