I Wonder How This Happened?
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This happened because:
Female hypergamy is through the roof.
Women's expectations for partners are very unrealistic.
Dating apps like Tinder have helped foster the degeneracy of hookup culture where young women whore it up with Chads then after they hit the wall they try to find a rich beta male to marry.
Society has been heavily favoring women in education and in hiring. There are a lot more well paid college educated women than there are college educated men.
The widespread rise of feminism in western society means there is a pervasive anti-male sentiment in society. Women can easily ruin the lives of any man with a few words of a false sexual allegation.
The witch hunting culture of the metoo movement has caused a lot of men to be rightfully wary of blindly trusting women not to ruin mens' lives.
All of these previous mentioned factors have caused a rise in MGTOW where smart men realize that gambling on women is not worth all the potential risks.
I myself am a MGTOW who doesn't want to date, fuck or cohabitate with a woman and I definitely will never marry.
And yet, they still want men who make more than them for partners.
"We need more women in university even though we've long passed 50% representation because historical inequities REEEEEEE!"
"Goddessdammit why are there so few men who have jobs you can only get with a university education!"
52% women in my college
The college I went to is approaching 70% now. They act like it's a good thing.
Might actually be a good thing if men are entering trades instead.
I like how it took all of this modernist bullshit to make young people who generally stray from religion realize that traditional religious practices are actually a good fucking idea lol.
As someone who was never raised to believe, never developed belief, and has never seen the bible as anything other than a collection of ancient aesop's-like fables, I find it fascinating that so many atheists, agnostics, irreligious, and whatever else they like to be called, correctly identify religious texts as nothing more than tools for controlling society, but never stop and think to themselves that maybe having control and order in society is actually important.
The origins of the bible, and countless other holy texts from other religions stretch back over millennia, through ancient egypt, ancient sumer, babylon, and the indus river. These stories have been processed and re-processed by the scholars, philosophers, priests and rulers of countless generations. They have, collectively, seen entire civilizations rise from nothing, shine with greatness, and crumble to ruin, dozens of times over. The stories they wrote in those texts are all written with one single goal: To inculcate in the masses, the patterns of behavior that make civilizations rise, and most importantly, determine who will survive and go on to rebuild when that civilization inevitably dies.
Here's a bit from Leviticus that comes after a lengthy list of sexually degenerate things you shouldn't do - wife stealing, incest, beastiality, sodomy, etc:
I don't believe God exists. I don't believe there's a concious entity 'driving out the nations before you' so that you can take their land and live on it. To me, this passage is simply a guide on how to conquer territory without an army:
-Move into to a foreign nation as an immigrant
-Don't be obnoxious and gross and they won't throw you out
-Live wholesome lives and keep reproducing
-Their degnerate society will crumble around you without you doing anything
-You are now the majority of the population, or a large enough minority to enforce a claim over an area
-Behold, God has given you this land, and driven out the nation before you!
And there it is. Instructions to control a population, for their own long-term benefit, presented in such a way that the priest doesn't have to sit there explaining birth rates and demographics to a bunch of illiterate sheep herders. All he has to tell them is 'God says so'.
That's why we have religion. To keep huge collectives of people who don't have the time or knowledge to think about the long term implications of every little thing from making decisions that will ultimate harm them and countless generations of their descendents.
Few people circle back to this conclusion after *becoming atheist. The ones that don't are more accurately anti-theist.
PoundMeToo was reactionary in a sense. The progressive idea that consent is all that is required for sex was found to be flawed due to the fundamental nature of the relationship between the sexes. Women use sex to secure their socioeconomic position, and men use their socioeconomic position to secure sex. Inevitable power imbalances will lead to abuse from both sides. Tradition does have inherited solutions to this problem through enforced monogamy, prohibitions on sexual acts, and caste systems.
alright I followed everything else but wtf does poundmetoo mean? lol
It's a joke about how # is used today as "hashtag," but on phones it was always the "pound key."
# is an abbreviation for pounds, as in weight.
Almost like our ancestors were writing "god said so!" as a justification for already well known to be smart practices, rather than just inventing them for the lulz.
young people now think their ancestors were all stupid. They dont realize that everything they are attempting to do now in terms of relationships: poly, FWB, hookup culture, whatever it is, was all tried before and what was not successful was discarded or those people doing it died out, what succeeded is what we still have today and we call it "tradition".
Young people think traditions are just "that is how we have always done it", and not "we do it this way because it works, and has worked this way for a very long time".
Even the king of the fedora wearing atheists, Richard Dawkins admitted that Christianity was a bulwark against "something worse" and its decline is making it much more noticeable.
Except that your religious practices caused this shit.
You were the people who gave women their unearned value. You were warned time and time again, when you kept considering them your allies, that society would suffer.
Let's not forget that tradcon fucks allied with Andrea Dworkin at one point, so you're far from innocent in all this.
I find it hilarious that tradcons are claiming they were right because of current society, like sex before marriage was the issue.
No, the issue was and still is your limp dicked opposition to feminist sadism. The issue was that you considered "misogyny" a real thing. The issue was that you didn't understand that "my wife isn't like that" is not a fucking argument.
You were so busy going after all the laser pointers that feminists gave you to chase that you never noticed what was going on until it was too late and you had to abide by their sadism to get elected.
That's your argument? Really?
Alright then, let's go with it.
The gender roles given by religion were ill-equipped to go with modern society, which Christian religious leaders knew, but chose to ignore because of the religious significance of marriage.
These religious leaders instead allied with the feminists to try and get rid of all alternatives to women - the anti-porn movement was born.
It went on for a long time, wasting effort and governmental power that should have been used to crush feminism on what was basically an act of a cat chasing a fucking laser pointer, with feminists telling them what to attack while getting their power in the background.
By the time you fucking realized this, it was way too fucking late, so you distracted everyone by making a big fight about gay marriage, in the hope that nobody found out about your treacherous ways and your hellspawned alliance with feminists who had now firmly entrenched their power and no longer needed useful idiots like you.
Then the resistance to feminism was crushed by Rick Scott (R-FL) because of Christian opposition to it - good fucking riddance to this bastard - and you still have the nerve to claim it isn't your fucking fault?
The last time I was on the dating scene, I seemed to be a real catch for the 40-something-overweight-and-irresponsible crowd because I was none of those things. I refused to match with any of them, but I bet desperate guys and blimp chasers would. The ones who weren't overweight had pretty crazy bios or looked like they wanted their guy to fly them to fourteen different countries all expenses paid.
They're either overweight or single moms. I'm really dreading entering the dating scene because it is an absolute cesspit.
Ngl I wouldn't be surprised if I have to look overseas for someone decent based on all the stuff I hear and see.
Would the removal of women's rights do anything to sway your stance?
That still doesn't undo how terribly they have treated men for years.
No one can unring that bell.
No one can fix the damage that has already been wrought.
Bitterness, disgust, resentment cannot be erased.
I'm not him, but no. It wouldn't. You can't just forget what they've done, becoming MGTOW is irreversible, because you acknowledge the true nature of relationships.
Wait you want them to rape women? Everything else doesn't make sense in this context.