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The new Justice League has an early scene where all the cops, bystanders, and hostages are diverse and all the terrorist are white men.
posted 5 years ago by BlightBane 5 years ago by BlightBane +75 / -0

This is around 17 or so minutes into the movie, and made me question if I want to watch it. Am I being too sensitive or too much of a puritan? I don't want to be, so maybe I just need to relax a bit on this.

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– SR388-SAX 48 points 5 years ago +48 / -0

Go back and re-watch The Matrix. Pay attention to who the bad guys are vs who the good guys are. Zero non-white people are put in villainous roles. It's even more blatant in the sequels that they would have made if they wanted to make a couple more shitty movies with some impressive action sequences.

There's no way it's not deliberate.

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– Grumman 36 points 5 years ago +36 / -0

The main villains of the movie are The Men in Black - the anonymous, interchangeable government agents that conspiracy theorists thought were after them - including one with the most generic name in America. They were never going to be minorities because that would be a step away from the legend and make them less anonymous and interchangeable.

Around them you've got the "The Man" characters like the police, the SWAT team and Neo's boss. This is less of a slam dunk, but it could just be a consequence of the movie being imagined and set in 1990s America and filmed in 1990s Australia - your boss was probably a white man, the extras were probably white and it's easier to get away with reusing stuntmen if necessary if the audience can't pick the black guy out of every group of mooks.

Cypher's the only one I'd call an unforced example of the white male villain in the movie, but that's just one guy.

I expect the new Matrix movie to be woke shit, but I'd say the original is just a generically anti-authority movie in a time and place when authority figures were going to be white men.

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– SR388-SAX 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

but I'd say the original is just a generically anti-authority movie in a time and place when authority figures were going to be white men.

Oh sure, there was a time that I'd have made that assumption as well. I generally just assume that when I see a lot of white people in an overwhelmingly white majority country, that it's probably just chance.

However ... we have since had 2 decades of the Wachowskis making their political opinions very clear, 2 decades of Hollywoke being more and more blatant, 2 more decades where these coincidences just keep getting more and more statistically unlikely.

Not only that, but we have had 2 more movies where the same pattern played out. Nearly every unambiguously sympathetic character in the Matrix was from a wonderfully diverse rainbow cast, and every single antagonist was white.

The Oracle. The Keymaker. The Asian dude in the white outfit. The friendly family in the train station. The Marovingian's wife was allowed to be white at least, but she at least wasn't male. Jada Pinkett's the bestest driver ever. There is that one old white man council member in Zion who isn't an asshole, and the kid that gets rescued by Neo that helps the black dude in the combat exoskeletal armor, so that's arguably 2 in the good column.

As opposed to the agents, Cypher, the guys buying contraband from Neo, The Marovingian, The Marovingian's bodyguards (one of them might have melanin, don't remember, but I'm pretty sure they were generic white dude thugs), the Architect, the viruses, the other dude (Cain? I don't remember) that gets infected by Smith.

Yeah, it might just be coincidence. Or it might be that they just figured, "I don't want to get outrage from the mob if I cast a Diverse person as a villain." Or it might be that the Wachowskis (and their casting agency) are bigoted assholes now, and they were bigoted assholes then.

I've seen enough evidence that I'm comfortable in saying that it was probably option 3.

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– BlightBane [S] 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

The Marovingian's henchmen were the only diverse group of antagonists, with about half of them not being white.

Also, The Matrix was a lifetime ago, where things were quite different. I would believe it a lot sooner that this was a coincidence, than I would today.

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– current_horror 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

The first Matrix movie was fine, casting-wise. It was also from a different era. The second and third ones were "diversity" bullshit on speed. Pretty sure the wachowski brothers decided they had "arrived" at that point and could propagandize to their degenerate hearts' content. They were correct.

I still remember sitting in the theater watching Reloaded on opening night. Like most people, I was psyched as hell. By the time the movie had gotten around to depicting Zion, the "last human city" in a technologically advanced future, as an African drum tribe of mostly brown people grinding on each other, I was done.

These days, I view the Matrix sequels as non-canon.

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– Cheers_cunt 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I still remember sitting in the theater watching Reloaded on opening night. Like most people, I was psyched as hell. By the time the movie had gotten around to depicting Zion, the "last human city" in a technologically advanced future, as an African drum tribe of mostly brown people grinding on each other, I was done.

I remember watching this and being immediately taken out of the movie. Morpheus has literally just warned the crowd of that the machines are coming, but then it's like "nah, it'll be fine, let's have a rave." Imagine that towards the end of the original Star Wars movie when the death star was approaching the rebel base, that the rebels decided to have a dance party instead of preparing for the attack. Makes about as much sense.

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– current_horror 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I expected Zion to be full of nerds and hackers. Instead it was full of hedonists and hippies.

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– TentElephant 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Why can't they make propaganda of that quality anymore?

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– Royalalbatross 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The worst part is that this has sunk in for a good number of people. They really think that white people are constantly the villains.

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– Chachiex 26 points 5 years ago +26 / -0

You can figure out any murder mystery nowadays

Muslim = innocent

Accused black = innocent

White bitch = innocent

Bald ghey bezos guy = innocent

White straight male = guilty & must be killed 4 raycisss

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– SophiesBoyfriend 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Writer’s room:

“White and straight? We know he should be the criminal... Give him an STD and reveal how he abandoned his kids too”

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– onetruephilosoraptor 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

Hollywood films today are nothing but propaganda.

Based on what you say, it sounds intentional that they made all the villains White while everyone else is diverse.

Don't give these subversive leftists a cent of your money or a second of your time.

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– BlightBane [S] 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Haven't given them any money, and time is exactly why I became reluctant.

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– AntonioOfVenice 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

If it's that stark, I am pretty sure that it was a deliberate choice.

Which does seem to suggest that unless you have 2 hours to kill, and are OK if it is wasted, you may want to avoid it.

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– BlightBane [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I don't go out of my way to check, but the contrast was stark enough for me to notice. Also, that movie is 4 hours. I am inclined to keep on watching, but this is still annoying.

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– Bruvazz 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

They're not even pretending anymore.

Also the movie has Amber Heard in it, after all she has done...

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– BlightBane [S] 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Fair point about the bed-shitter. I am not giving them any money for it at least.

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– acp_k2win 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Been that way in media since at least 2000. Street criminals and thieves are all white men. Scientists, doctors, and anyone who is remotely sympathetic isn't.

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– BlightBane [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I know, and I wasn't surprised, but I want to avoid going into a purity spiral where I overreact things.

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– throwawayaccount2037 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Trust me, you won't be overreacting to anything that Hollywood produces.

Contrast any of Hollywood's Leftist degeneracy with Russian-made films and you will see that there is no such thing as an overreaction. Russian movies today are what good action films used to be like throughout the 80s and part of the 90s.

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– BlightBane [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I have recently watched the Sputnik movie, that was a good one. If you have any recommendations I will take them.

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– throwawayaccount2037 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The Blackout (2019)- Dystopian sci-fi action thriller. Lots of badass action scenes and a completely original plot.

T-34 (2018) - Just watched this super awesome film about a brilliant and tactical Russian officer who has to utilize his environment and intellectual prowess to outwit and outmaneuver German tanks. Everything about this movie is so badass. Some people have called it the Fast & Furious of tank films, but it's no where near as goofy as F&F. The slow-motion alone is so awesome as the movie goes through painstaking visual detail to explain what's happening during the tank maneuvers/attacks rather than using commentary or having characters verbally explain things.

Panfilov's 28 (2016) - Very similar to T-34 in terms of its setting and premise; a small ragtag garrison of Russian soldiers have to basically stop an entire column of German tanks using a limited number of supplies. This film is extremely intense, it reminds me of a World War II Russian version of Michael Bay's 2016 flick 13 Hours.

Furious (2017) - Another absolutely badass flick based on the Russian folklore hero, Kolovrat, who has to save the remaining survivors of a Russian settlement from Mongolian invaders. Again, no Leftist politics and it has some pretty cool sword fights and medieval action sequences.

August.Eighth (2012) - This movie is kind of stupid in ways, but it's also equally awesome, too. What makes it work is that while the movie is about a selfish mother trying to save her son during the breakout of war, she ends up getting A LOT of help from some badass soldiers who aid her in her quest to find her son. I don't even know how to properly describe this film, except it's like a mix of Saving Private Ryan (very visceral and realistic gunplay), Black Hawk Down, Gundam, and Schlinder's List. It's a bizarre mix of realistic military fanfare and sci-fi, but it's done quite well. The last 20 minutes or so will have you standing up and cheering at how awesome the final big battle sequence plays out.

Den blomstertid nu kommer (2018) - It's not Russian, but it's a pretty cool Swedish film. Depends on if you like romance/disaster/conspiracy/invasion films. It's quite original for what it is, but the best part is that there is ZERO degeneracy, no out-of-place minorities, and no Rainbow Reich nonsense.

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– Piroko 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

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Why do you even know this?

question if I want to watch it

No, it asks why you bothered to give it a try in the first place.

I haven't paid to see anything since Solo, and I only gave that a chance to disappoint me because Rogue One.

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– BlightBane [S] 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The contrast was strong enough for me to notice, without intentionally looking for something like this. I also hear good things about the movie, so I figured I would give it a shot. And I have not paid for this, so I am not losing money on it.

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– current_horror 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

am I being too sensitive

Nope. You are just entering the game. It's the fourth quarter. You're down a million points.

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– BlightBane [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Good, wouldn't want it to be easy.

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– Grumman 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I think it's only significant insofar as it's a white male (group of terrorists) and not that they're a group of (white male terrorists). I would expect people united in an illegal conspiracy by a common purpose to have a lot in common, because they have to know and trust each other well enough to invite them into the conspiracy.

I think it's possible that you're onto something - the Luddite terrorists wanting to take down the global financial market could be a jab at conservatives.

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– Cheers_cunt 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

That whole sequence was cringey AF.

There are white men in both the police and hostages but none of them are in focus. The focus instead is around the police chief (black) and the female diverse hostages. And the terrorists of course, who are all white.

The truly stupid thing was how Wonder Woman takes out the terrorist leader and the entire wall behind him, dumping a tonne of debris onto the cops below. In the time taken to charge up her wrist bands she could have easy disarmed him or killed him with her sword without risking the lives of the cops on the ground. It might have been interesting if they went down the whole 'snap decision leads to collateral damage' path, but nope, she just turns around and gives some insipid "you can be anything you want speech" to one of the nearby school girl hostages.

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– BlightBane [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You know what would actually be great? If that girl turned into a villain down the road.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The new Justice League

That film came out 4 years ago.

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– BlightBane [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

This is Snyder's cut.

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– Devidose 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

It's the scene with Roose Bolton in the museum that Wonder Woman foils isn't it? That was in the Whedon version too.

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– BlightBane [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Never saw that one, so I will take your word for it.

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– Smith1980 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I notice that but they are missing out when they purposely cast that way.

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