Fucking Decision Desk prematurely calling the race over in favor of corrupt Biden.
Trump will fight this no doubt in court.
This country is now an open banana republic where fraud is lauded by half the nation as long Trump is not winning it.
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Yeah, we know this is going to the courts, and we know there's massive voter fraud.
Dem's will never accept it though. Doesn't matter if you can show them dead people who requested ballots and voted, doesn't matter if you show them boarding up the ballot counting room so people can't see inside, doesn't matter that even with legal court orders to let the observers into the ballot counting room they were denied.
The average Democrat voter is highly misinformed, but even without that, they hate Trump so much they'd straight faced tell you "No, I just want all the vote to be counted, legally, and that's what happened." and go to sleep at night going "Heh, you know, I don't really care. It's what should've happened, I'll take it."
When Trump wins this in the courts and they've shown the voter fraud even more clearly than already - I think at that point, you're looking at Democrats in jail and likely the party being shattered. 2022 is going to be even worse for them than to 2020. But I also think there will be a reckoning in the GOP as well - the GOP seems mostly dead in the water outside of Trump and a handful of others.
If Trump loses, I don't think the Repubs will ever be as popular again. With that said, I think the Dems are in for a world of pain once the crony elites and the progressive left turn on each other. The only thing that was holding them together was their hatred for Trump.
We can all thank Trump for his service for planting those seeds. He has drove the progressive left insane, and that's a monster that's going to bite its master sooner or later.
I might be tempted to vote for Ted Cruz or Tucker Carlson.
Not sure I agree with you on that. He covered the Hunter Biden laptop scandal and interviewed the only first hand witness to the corruption.
Why.
Dispose of the limp dick spineless cowards and make the right great again.
We tried with the tea party movement. It didn't work and now we're out of time. We no longer have a road left to kick the can down.
Why are you stopping?
The limp dicks are still in the party. It's time to get working and get elected. Start the Long March.
vote
Why vote? Clearly voting is a waste of time.
If we hadn't they wouldn't have needed to cheat and we would have lost regardless with zero a peep.
Now there is a chance, however small, that because of their incompetence and reliance on cheating we could pull a win out. A chance is worth something.
Eh, I think it might be more like a UK thing. If the Trump base and the GOP become incompatible, the momentum is heavily on the Trump base. And when I look at say Sean Parnell, or Cawthorn, I'm not seeing the same old.
I'm happy to thank Trump, but I don't think he's done. If they can do all the legal stuff and get it sorted out to a fair non frauded vote? Those are rules to be played by. If they decide that it can't be done by Dec.14th and it's all tied up, Pool is pointing out it goes to State electors, which is a guaranteed Trump win, so we're going to have a very fun next month and a week or so.
Leftists still have a common enemy, 69 million Trump voters and dissidents like us, before turning on each other.
https://archive.vn/iIGhF thegatewaypundit
My hope is that, without Trump around to cause Trump Derangement Syndrome, the left will regain some of their sanity; that the absence of their bugbear will allow them to wake from their shared delusion and reenter the real world.
Trump has never been popular. President Josh Hawley (2024-2033) will probably be way more popular, while advancing the same agenda as Trump.
If they get away with stealing this election many people will lose all faith in the system.
Trump is the most popular Republican in the modern age. Hawley is a fucking joke when compared to Trump.
If they successfully steal this election, there won't be another chance.
Many people will never vote again for anyone if they successfully swear in that corrupt piece of filth Biden by using fraudulent ballots to win.
I am done voting if they get away with it successfully.
That's exactly what they want though. They want you demoralized and not voting, makes the rigging easier.
Even if its a futile gesture, you still have to take the 15 minutes out of your day every year and vote.
At least until the RWDS form
If they get away with this steal, do you think they will go back to legitimate elections magically in 4 years?
We have entered the Banana Republic stage.
Voting will be useless to get us out of it.
Oh I agree it'll be useless if this is in fact massive election fraud.
But you still need to do it. Impotent as a gesture is, it's still a gesture. Fight in every way, in every avenue, even the meaningless ones
I won't be wasting my time with meaningless gestures.
Why are you giving up.
Voting is simply the first step to the Long March through the institutions. There's lots of Republicucks to fire and Soros judge replacement shit left to do.
https://archive.vn/wfus1 Gravel Institute @GravelInstitute
You need to fire all the corrupt Dem governors, mayors and erase the shitty laws that makes fraud easier.
https://archive.vn/Bq6eW dailycaller
It's all I want for Christmas.
Unfortunately very unlikely. The right wing doesn't have the support structures in place that enable full-scale LARPing like antifa.
Unless Trump crosses the Rubicon quite literally and not just metaphorically through court decisions
Voting will be useless if this sham holds.
Or, you need to win by such a margin to be fraud-proof. It was definitely close. They did not fabricate hundreds of thousands of ballots. At least I think. They just stole enough to put Biden over the top.
Trump is more beloved, but also more hated by drones who are brainwashed by the media, as well as by a significantly smaller portion of the population that has legitimate objections to him.
Imagine if they had won by default, how much worse would it be than if they are forced to steal the election?
You are a fool if you think there exists some magical fraud proof margins if they are able to successfully steal an election and get away with it.
The globalists definitely won't be leaving things to chance.
They underestimated Trump in 2016 but it seems they won't ever make that mistake again.
A milquetoast Republican like Josh Hawley can never even to hope receive anywhere near the support that Trump garners which is necessary to win a national election.
So if we do not have definitive proof, how do we know we are not disenfranchising voters by letting the state legislators taking away the people's vote (already rejected by PA)?
I think so as well.
How is Hawley milquetoast? He's every bit of a populist as Trump is, only less of a caricature (i.e., less easily demonized).
So less easily memeable, thereby losing a lot of what made Trump so energizing and loveable to his base.
But in exchange, you get to bank on the oh so reasonable and fair media and Dems being less demonizing. Because as we know, they don't just make up entire personalities and events if need be.
I think what you're trying to say is that Trump is more hated by people who aren't Republican voters, or are spineless trend followers. These people are irrelevant to Trump's popularity among the actual non-Left voter base.
But understand that Democrats passionately hate every Republican candidate, except for those rare moments where they can use them to attack a more relevant Republican (see: suddenly pretending to honor McCain).
Moreover, the fact that the Left has worked so hard to establish this cult of Trump hate, is testament that he's doing something right.
There are more than two groups. Trump was beloved among Republicans, and hated among die-hard leftists, but many people in the center disliked him.
As did I once, so I can definitely see things from their side better. He won me over by having courage, but unfortunately, most would rather have a kneeling idiot.
Rest assured that four years from now, Hawley will be called 'worse than Trump'. It's guaranteed. They always do that.
Yes and no. They tried the same thing with every Republican, as you said, but they succeeded more with Trump than with other Republicans, because Trump is so easy to caricature and demonize. That's not a good thing, as much as I have been entertained by him driving them absolutely mad over the past 4 years.
I could tell (absolutely not being snide here) and I think it's coloring your judgement. I too had issues with Trump (and still have some), he's definitely flawed. I also recognize that this this kind of non-kneeling personality is exactly what we need right now.
This is just PC culture in action and has no basis in reality. The left trains people to root for the polite, eloquent but ultimately harmless and compromised candidate. I think people on the political right are increasingly sick of these type of deep state plants, especially as the political climate in the US gets more dire.
Wrong. This is a fundamental misunderstanding on your part. They "succeeded" more because they failed. At no point did Trump crumble.
He never sat down quietly in his room and reflected about how, "gee, they just don't like me! maybe I should change the way I present myself? maybe I should stop tweeting for a while? Maybe I'm in the wrong here after all". Which is remarkable, because that's exactly what PC culture does to people, and is exactly why supposedly right-wing politicians, judges, etc. appear to be such gigantic cucks. The left ruthlessly attacks their personality, their family, digs through their past, anything. It's scorched earth. As decent people who have always been raised to avoid confrontation and shame, they panic. Ultimately, they want a quiet life. They want to look dignified.
Trump is not like that at all and that is exactly why he was immune to these tactics. He has no problem looking like a clown. That's why the left riled up their base and turned the dial on the "insanity" to 11. Because they're so used to people who fold under this sort of relentless pressure, and they actually found an anomaly.
No they were louder about it, which gave the impression of success. You can go outside and find a Trump supporter. Some are too scared to say it, but you'll find plenty all over. We even have people admitting to being Right wing whatsoever now!
You couldn't find a person who admitted to even voting for Bush, let alone liking him. They had demonized him so thoroughly his entire base was cowed into silence. Conservative was a dirty word, as was Republican, and the Right was so browbeaten into patheticness it took full out of Left-Field things like the "alt-right" and Gamergate to start its resurgence.
Nothing Dems done makes me think their ballots are legit. Secret counts, ejecting ODIHR and binocular poll watchers, it's fishy as fuck.
The only reason we cannot prove that their results are genuine, if indeed they are, is because of the massive fraud that they pulled off with their phoney 'polls'.
I think that if the polls showed Biden winning WI by 1, and he won it by 0.2% (and the rest was correct as well), it would not be credible to allege widespread voter fraud. But they claimed he would win by 16 points, so what's the difference between 0.2% and -0.2%?
The polls are basically fanfiction.
The chasing away of poll watchers and changing ballot postmark rules are likely signs of fraud.
Trump is popular even if his personality is hard to digest for some. He is a giant orange fuck you to a broken, corrupt system run by smug socialist elites. I doubt anyone will be like that in my lifetime. Just think what the left made him go thru the past 4 years and he seems to have been fine with it.
What? You're being a retarded fuck as usual.
He swallowed the doomer pill a while ago and just wants to spread his "America is dead, doomed!" rhetoric to us all.
Never forget, Europeans are the worse allies we have.
Yeah, a guy who just got 70 million votes and turned a huge number of Democrats to support him has never been popular.
Or are you talking about popular with the media and the cultural elite? Well in that case, yeah, no shit.
I've had dinner with Josh and his wife a couple times. I like the guy, but I'm not sure he is necessarily ready, but he at least has an understanding of what the hell is going on with Big Tech and some other issues. I've played a small part in that over the past 3 years.
But if they get away with stealing the election...
Although Trump is a fighter and not really beholden to the GOP's party apparatus. Trump actually does have a path to victory and that is stall things out in the courts till it goes to House Delegations where if the Republicans don't buckle like a wet noodle they vote Trump into office for the next 4 years.
If that does happen, which is constitutional (man those guys who thought that document up were some pretty sharp fellows), things will really hit the fan and likely the second civil war goes hot.
They seem to be doing that Marxist thing of asserting their fundamental goodness and reasoning from this that anything they do, no matter if it's illegal or not, is for the Greater Good.
Why is everyone so confident that he will win this in the courts? I do not see any smoking gun, everyone knows fraud happened massively this election but without clear evidence is meaningless. An actual investigation would take years, he has days.
That is what I’m saying. A lot of stuff looks fishy but how do you prove it? Nixon lost to Kennedy through cheating but he conceded. I voted for Trump and like I said the the election was fishy plus the overblown Covid hysteria and the media coverage sank him. I don’t see how he can prove this.
There has been a lot of recorded evidence for cheating. Enough to contest and possible rerun the election.
Gotcha. I find it funny how the same party that didn’t accept the 2016 election see no smoke here
There are many reasons, but it's basically a couple days after the election, fraud is likely still going on as we speak, there are a myriad of videos with evidence - and even if only some of them turn out to be true, I'm pretty sure more than enough of them will.
But mostly, we'll see more evidence within a month I guess, since they don't want it to get to Dec.14th without certifying all the votes (i.e: certifying the winner), because that changes the game again. There's also the fact that the Supreme Court already has a PA case on the docket just for this. If they strike that down as unconstitutional, goodbye to a lot of Biden votes in PA. There will be howling from the Dems, they'll swear on their life that Trump is stealing the election in front of their eyes etc. No clue how it'll turn out though, that's just how I see it.
No one's going to jail even if Trump wins, and no parties will be shattered. The Democrats and Republicans are so old and entrenched that they're practically embedded in the foundation of our government. People have been saying for decades that this will be the end of this party or that party, and yet here we are, with both these parties still intact and staffed more or less by the same people as before.
Not that it matters because Trump's going to lose. He'll never find enough evidence of voter fraud to convince the courts, Obama appointees will strike him down without a second thought, and the media will pressure the rest into compliance.
I saw Karen Straughan making an absolutely apt point on why this looks so suspicious on YouTube. Trump improved by 6 points in New York State over his 2016 performance.
Combine that with the fact that Trump improved among Hispanics and black males, do you expect me to believe PA, MA, WI, GA, and AZ have flipped to Biden?
Looking at all the gains Trump has made in growing Republican base and how much he won Florida and Ohio by, it is ridiculous to suggest he somehow lost PA, MI, WI and fucking GA and AZ of all places.
It is a joke to even suggest that with a straight face.
Exactly.
Then you add in the fact that those are the states that suddenly stopped counting ballots and its obvious what happened. (fraud)
I'm not religious but even I'm praying to God that they can prove it.
You're not seeing the counter narrative - which is "We've been #Resistance for 4 years. I'm not shocked those states were lost to Trump - I'm shocked even 1 state voted for him, you people are fucking Nazis" That's their sincere belief. They can't believe you'd think otherwise, it's SO clear to them that you're basically not a human. Remember, these are the people who talk about human rights.
There's no way this ends well. Neither side will accept the other side won by the rules. It just won't happen. The question is what happens from today ---> the next 4 years, whoever "wins".
I saw. What they 'call' has no legal force whatsoever. The interesting thing is that they apparently called PA for Biden even though Trump was still leading, perhaps thinking that there surely would come enough ballots to put Biden over the top.
The election will be decided in the courts then by the state legislatures deciding which slate of electors will be sent to the electoral college.
Democrats have succeeded in ensuring that one half of the country will never accept the results of the election as legitimate once everything is finished on January 20th.
2020 is the time of death for the United States.
You have a lot of confidence in the Republicans. That would be an escalation, unless there is definitive proof that voter fraud was sufficient to affect the outcome of the election.
I think you're overestimating things, and that a significant portion of Republicans will accept it as legitimate.
Hilariously, no call has ever been relevant. The Constitution only cares what the Electoral College decides.
Calls only serve to demoralize, and previously in order to inform. I have no doubt that Decision Desk actually believes that Biden is going to win Pennsylvania.
Georgia is looking terrible as well for POTUS.
In this case, calls are pissing people off.
If it's possible to discover fraud by auditing these votes, audit them. Otherwise, look at the trends and simply discard them. Some of the states in which Trump was ahead were trending toward Biden, but a lot of the states that are now being called for Biden would never have swung in his favor without all the mysterious vote drops.
An audit in PA is basically impossible. They are discarding the envelopes that have the signature and date. It will all have to be thrown out.
Yeah that's what I figured. I think there was some rumor floating around about watermarks but I'm guessing that's wishful thinking at best. The only partial solution I can think of (and I don't know if it applies to PA) is to look at the batches where they reported 100% Biden votes and discard those.
There are definitely blockchain keys on the ballots. There are images of one that was kept by someone put under UV. It was put on it in the form of an invisible dot matrix made to be read by computers.
It's apart of the security put in place for the 2020 election of which Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania opted into.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/471577-dhs-cyber-agency-invests-in-election-auditing-tool-to-secure-2020
There was an entire risk assessment done by CISA to establish where there could be fraud.
https://info.publicintelligence.net/CISA-MailVotingRiskAssessment.pdf
There's a CISA document on it somewhere, but I couldn't find it in the short time I dedicated to looking.
Interesting, thank you.
I hope everyone remember this shit in 2 years and another 4 when voting time comes. I sure as hell am for the rest of my fucking life, congratulations dems, you just moved someone from a shitposter to an actual lifelong republican voter. Straight fucking ticket.
Doesn't matter who you vote for if the Dems control the election behind closed doors. The US needs major election reforms but the Dems won't let that happen.
I don't think this will work how you think it will. The Republican establishment is going to go back to cucking out like they always do, and the Democrats are torn between a clearly corrupt establishment and the progressives. Maybe the new Republicans will have some spine like Trump, but I'm not about to hold my breath
2016 was the last time voting mattered. They wouldn't make that mistake again and they haven't.
Next time people won't be as fired up, making it even easier to make sure Repubs never win again.
Voting lol
Whats next?
Will they get away with everything they've done for the past 4 years, all the lies they've been putting out there, all the media bias, critical race theory and all the tech censorship? All that shit on Biden will be null and void? The impeachment itself was an incredible abuse of power. They almost took down the president on nothing but a partisan power grab. Yet there is going to be no consequences?
I will never forget what they did and I am sure many Trump voters will feel the exact same way.
Even if the Democrats somehow get away with the fraud, they will never be able to have Biden seen as legitimate by nearly half the country.
They managed to erode faith in the integrity of elections.
Things will only get worse from here.
What good thing that happened in the last 4 years is that we give 0 fucks if the left, the media, holywood and all the show hosts call us. Trump will fight until the end and no amount of left wing screeching matters.
Someone fill me in.. Why aren't the ballots double counted? Once by a dem team and once by a republican team, instead of this "count and watch".
Each state has a count collection where they cannot see the inside they only count envelopes.
Then each party counts dem/rep/invalid BLIND. Both parties then come together to share totals, any of the three are off and the totals of either don't match the envelope count, then they all have to recount again. A ball ache? Sure but cheating is going to be lower as neither side will want to be the one to cause mass invalidation and then count again. And second time around there's no worry of late votes coming because if the totals don't match the first envelope count then they just invalidate the whole states votes and potentially force a revote?
I just don't understand this "count and watcher" system. If they're watching they can be counting too.
Republican are such salty losers....
Out of curiosity, how would you describe the last four years?
A disaster for America: to be led by such a manchild president
And when were you diagnosed with Down syndrome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0
What was it that Trump did exactly that was such a disaster?
He alienated his allies (Europe and Canada) while befriending Saudi-Arabia and UAE
I fail to see how getting 4 countries in the middle east to make peace with Israel after 60 years is a bad thing. You have stock in Boeing and Lockheed and thus need us to keep bombing brown people in order to keep those dividends flowing or something?
What about the human right crimes they have committed, should they be forgiven without being punished?
Human rights crimes such as?
Compared to other things we've been called that is fine.
bruh...
I told you to kill yourself. Get to it already.
I'd give it a 40% chance.
After you
Care to tell me your views about Gov. Stacey Abrams?
Who?