Just ask local farmers. They make more money selling directly to people than they do selling to corporations. The people also save money by buying a farmer's produce directly from them, as its cheaper. For instance, you can buy a whole/half/quarter cow, have it butchered, pick exactly what kinds of cuts you want, and freeze the meat, and save lots of money over buying it at the store as needed.
It's actually astonishing watching older media, even just back to the 90s. Movies and TV shows which have main and/or background casts which are entirely White, or documentary films of once entirely White Western cities and locations. The acceleration of the Kalergi plan is insane, and there are still people who don't see it, and some who actively deny it despite the evidence, because the "authorities" told them so.
They've been doing that to us in government schools for the last several decades.
Kinda depends on the studio nowadays (and time frame).
I consider all AAA game studios as thoroughly captured and corrupted. They haven't gate kept their own sphere, much less their own company through diversity hiring practices. Hobbies form around passionate but smaller niche communities. When normies (and leftist subversives) enter a sphere, it waters it down, often pushing out the core audience, and the subversives slowly twist the sphere/hobby to mean things never intended or needed by the core fans.
Through greed and capitulation to globohomo, AAA studios have largely accepted the sweet (yet poisonous) ESG funding from companies like Blackrock and Vanguard, pushing globohomo in their products, usually pushing out the passionate core devs which built the studio, replacing them with normies and subversives, who, at the minimum, don't care about the company, medium, or hobby, and more likely, actively hate it and the fans, which is why they're always trying to subvert it, attack the core audience, classic games, and the tropes of the medium, actively making it worse in all regards.
It's why I've pretty much avoided mainstream anything for the last several years, as they've all gone this way. For gaming, I still find enjoyment playing games from indie devs, still populated by those passionate core players and developers, who don't put in the globohomo, and don't implement the caustic modern gaming design/publishing, like paid DLC, tons of bugs at launch, paying "reviewers" and shills to overly inflate their ratings, anti user DRM, microtransactions, pay to win models, always online, etc. Just look at CDProjekt Red. They made probably the best modern RPG, The Witcher 3, but when all the core devs that made that gem left (or were pushed out), the company and every game they've made sucks. They've even put out videos detailing their support for globohomo. Bioware, Bethesda, Blizzard, and more, all used to be reliable for making great games. Now they're a hollow shell, used to make globalist propaganda with a game skinsuit.
Do developers need to be intelligent to make games, even bad ones? Eh, kinda. The profession requires a bare minimum of intelligence, but from all the bug riddled games being released by AAA studios, I don't chalk much up to their intelligence, only their poor ability to learn facts (coding/design) and regurgitate them on command, like so many other soulless brainwashed automatons (NPCs) in the modern world.
It sounds more like a degenerate dev that's slightly self aware. Chapter 1 says "morality is not absolute" and chapter 2 says "why moral decay is not immoral".
Relativism is a globalist/leftist philosophy used to undermine and attack traditional Western philosophy, and truth itself. It's really easy for evil people and degenerates to push their lies when they've brainwashed people to accept that truth and logic isn't absolute.
Given how the other chapters are described, it sounds like this particular dev is a degenerate, knows society is crumbling and degrading, but is trying to make a quick buck off of it. This means they're pushing the same degeneracy and lies as the globalists, causing the slide toward collapse, but their motive is more aligned with greed.
This aligns with what BG3 is, a degenerate game pushing globohomo for the purpose of making money.
That's not "based". It's destructive greed, hatred of one's people, and alignment with evil for individual gain.
Canadian doctor talking to Unity:
Have you considered becoming transgender?
Prequel Darth Sidious (in evil voice):
Do it!
Screw it. I'll do the math for you anyway. I'll break it down camp by camp.
Here's an excerpt from the Wiki page on Nazi extermination camps:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
The victims of death camps were primarily murdered by gassing, either in permanent installations constructed for this specific purpose, or by means of gas vans.
Like I said, the official Holocaust narrative is that most of the deaths were from gassing. The fact that you don't know this is quite odd. Also, killing someone in a poorly constructed room with Zyklon B pellets/crystals is insanely difficult, if not impossible.
The specific names of the death/extermination camps are Chelmno, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Majdanek, and Auschwitz.
Chelmno
It's claimed 180,000 to 340,000 deaths were at Chelmno, which operated from December 8, 1941, to April 11, 1943. The Wiki page for Chelmno says:
The bodies were cremated on open air grids constructed of concrete slabs and rail tracks; pipes were used for air ducts, and long ash pans were built below the grid...To hide the evidence of the SS-committed war crimes, from 1943 onward, the Germans ordered the exhumation of all remains and burning of bodies in open-air cremation pits by a unit of Sonderkommando 1005...Eventually, the camp authorities bought a bone-crushing machine (Knochenmühle) from Schriever and Co. in Hamburg to speed up the process.
Oh look, the bone crushing machine lie.
As I've said previously, it's impossible to fully cremate human remains in open air. Full cremation requires pressures and temperatures that can only be reached in enclosed crematoria, which still leaves bones intact. There's flesh left over in open air pyres/cremations, it's not all ash and bone. The "official" Holocaust account still uses this lie. Yet, you claim to be ignorant of this.
Here's what Wikipedia says on open air pyres:
A study conducted by Alunni, et al. examined the forensic science behind cremations on wooden pyres. The study concluded the average pyre does not completely destroy a human body effectively...remains being more charred rather than completely oxidized by high temperatures, are in anatomically correct positions, poor bone fragmentation
Lets look at India, that still performs lots of open air cremations. Here's a link from CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2011/09/12/world/asia/india-funeral-pyres-emissions/index.html
a traditional pyre takes six hours and burns 500-600 kilograms of wood
That's just for one body, which isn't even fully cremated, and it requires 1,100-1,320 pounds of wood. I've also seen estimates for open air cremations that are even longer, just for one body. Do you have any idea how many trees would have to be cut down to fuel the open air pits to cremate the claimed number of dead? It would have deforested massive areas around the camps, especially in such a concentrated timeframe as is claimed the Nazis did these cremations. It also would result in even more ash leftovers from the burned wood, resulting in mountains of ash that couldn't just be swept away.
Lets say 1 million people were cremated in open air pits, requiring an average of 1,210 pounds of wood per person. That requires a total of 1,210,000,000 lbs of wood. Assuming only 1% of the initial wood weight is turned to ash (a very low estimate, as 6-10% is the accepted value), that leaves roughly 12,100,000 lbs of ash, just from the wood. Wood ash is also very light by volume, so that amount of wood ash would be absolutely massive by volume.
Belzec
It's claimed 430,000 and 500,000 jewish deaths were at Belzec, which operated from March 17, 1942 to the end of June, 1943. The Wiki page admits:
All corpses buried at Bełżec were secretly exhumed and then gradually cremated on long open-air pyres, part of the country-wide plan known as the Sonderaktion 1005....Bone fragments were pulverised and mixed with the ashes to hide the evidence of mass murder.
Again, they're trying to claim the Nazis did something that's physically and thermodynamically impossible, and that they used bone crushing machines which were never found.
Sobibor
It's claimed 170,000 to 250,000 deaths were at Sobibor, which operated from May ,1942 to October 14, 1943. The Wiki page admits:
The vast majority of prisoners were gassed within hours of arrival...After only a few months of operation, the wooden walls of the gas chambers had absorbed too much sweat, urine, blood, and excrement to be cleanable...the Nazis assembled a forest commando who worked there cutting timber for heat, cooking, as well as cremation pyres...after the killing in the gas chambers, the corpses were collected by Sonderkommandos and taken to mass graves or cremated in the open air.
This Wiki page admits to gassing as the main means of killing (which you deny), the use of wooden enclosed gas chambers (which is a hilarious lie), that they used wood to burn the bodies (they'd run out of forest before running out of bodies to cremate), and that they, again, used open air pyres to cremate the bodies. LOL.
Treblinka
It's claimed 700,000 and 900,000 jewish deaths were at Treblinka, which operated from July 23, 1942 and October 19, 1943. The Wiki page admits:
Jews were murdered in its gas chambers...they cut wood to fuel the cremation pits...bodies were exhumed in 1943 and cremated on large open-air pyres along with the bodies of new victims...The bodies were placed on rails over wood, splashed with petrol, and burned...crushed the remaining bones with mallets
Again, the same lies. You can't just "splash petrol" on a corpse and expect it to cremate in the open air.
Majdanek
It's claimed 78,000 to 360,000 deaths were at Majdanek, which operated from October 1, 1941 to July, 22 1944. The Wiki page admits:
Until June 1942, the bodies of those murdered at Majdanek were buried in mass graves (these were later exhumed and burned by the prisoners assigned to Sonderkommando 1005)...murdered with Zyklon B...From June 1942, the SS disposed of the bodies by burning them, either on pyres made from the chassis of old lorries or in a crematorium. The so-called First Crematorium had two ovens which were brought to Majdanek from the Sachsenhausen concentration camp. This facility stood in „Interfield I", the area between the first and the second fenced camp section; it is no longer in existence today...In autumn of 1943, the first crematorium at Majdanek was replaced by the New Crematorium. It was a T-shaped wooden building with five ovens.
Oh look, the Zyklon B lie again.
But, finally!, a "death camp" that used crematoriums (something that can actually cremate a body). So, from June, 1942 to autumn 1943 (lets assume November 1st), the camp had two ovens, and from autumn 1943 to July, 22 1944 it had 5 ovens. Lets use the cremation times for modern crematoria (giving as much leeway for the official account as possible), it takes roughly 2-3 hours to cremate a body (lets use 2 hours for even more leeway for the official account). Modern crematoria require a cooldown time between each body, to clean the oven, but lets assume these were magic crematoria, that didn't need to be cleaned or cooled off between each body.
The camp had 2 ovens for 518 days, and 5 ovens for 264 days. For the first 518 days, the camp could cremate 12,432 bodies (518days * 24hrs/day / 2hrs/cremation * 2ovens). For the last 264 days, the camp could cremate 15,840 bodies (264days * 24hrs/day / 2hrs/cremation * 5ovens). The total number of bodies the camp could cremate is 28,272. That number is far, far below the "official" claimed number of dead (78,000 to 360,000).
The official number of cremated is a lie. All it takes is simple math to disprove the lie, giving every leeway to the Nazis to break the laws of thermodynamics and time to cremate more than is possible.
Auschwitz
It's claimed 1,100,000 deaths were at Auschwitz, which operated from May, 1940 to January, 1945. The Wiki page admits:
Construction of crematorium I began at Auschwitz I at the end of June or beginning of July 1940...was in operation from August 1940 until July 1943, by which time the crematoria at Auschwitz II had taken over...By May 1942 three ovens had been installed in crematorium I, which together could burn 340 bodies in 24 hours...By June 1943 all four crematoria were operational, but crematorium I was not used after July 1943. This made the total daily capacity 4,416, although by loading three to five corpses at a time, the Sonderkommando were able to burn some 8,000 bodies a day. This maximum capacity was rarely needed; the average between 1942 and 1944 was 1,000 bodies burned every day...The first experimental gassing took place around August 1941, when Lagerführer Karl Fritzsch, at the instruction of Rudolf Höss, murdered a group of Soviet prisoners of war by throwing Zyklon B crystals into their basement cell in block 11 of Auschwitz I...The morgue was later converted to a gas chamber able to hold at least 700–800 people...Zyklon B was dropped into the room through slits in the ceiling...Any bits of bone that had not burned properly were ground down in wooden mortars.
LOL, they claim all of the bone remains were crushed using "wooden mortars". 1.1 million people's bones, ground to dust using mortars. Fucking LOL. The insanity of the official claims.
In any case, lets look at the numbers of cremated in the "official sources". In the above quote, it says the 3 ovens of crematoria I could cremate 340 bodies in 24 hours. That's impossible. 3 ovens * 24hrs / 2hrs/cremation = 36 bodies every 24 hours. To hell with the lies. The "official historians" overvalued the possible number of cremations by a factor of 9.44. Furthermore, you can't just pack in more than one body into a cremation oven. The ovens themselves are ridiculously small, wouldn't fit that many bodies, even starved bodies. You also can't just throw in more bodies into an oven and throw in more fuel, expecting to get the exact same cremation times for 1 body. The official claims are obvious lies.
Let's use this source on the number of ovens Auschwitz had:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/auschwitz
In summer 1940 the SS took delivery of one double-muffle oven manufactured by the Topf company in Erfurt. Its official incineration capacity of over 100 corpses per day proved insufficient, and in fall 1940 the Auschwitz SS ordered a second double-muffle oven. A third (summer 1941) brought the official daily cremation capacity to 340 corpses....The 52 ovens built in the five crematoria of Auschwitz, with a total incineration capacity of 4,756 corpses per day, testify to the genocidal purpose of the Nazi state.
So, 52 ovens total for all give crematoria.
Lets use this source on when the various crematoria were active at Auschwitz:
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/crematoria-and-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz-birkenau
Crematorium I operated from August 15, 1940 until July 1943...Crematorium II functioned from March 1943 through November 1944...Crematorium III functioned from June 1943 through November 1944...Crematorium IV functioned, with interruptions, from March 1943 until October 7, 1944...Crematorium V functioned, with interruptions, from April 1943 until January 1945
Crematoria I was operational for 1,079 days, crematoria II for 640 days, crematoria III for 548 days, crematoria IV for 586 days, and crematoria V for 671 days.
We know crematoria I had 3 ovens, but it's difficult to find accurate sources for how many ovens crematoria 2-5 had, so lets assume an average of 12.25 ([52-3]/4), which won't change the total number much given that crematoria 2-5 operated roughly the same number of days. Lets also assume, again, that these are magic ovens that can operate 24/7 without needing cleaning or cooling off, and all ovens were used from start to finish dates. So, crematoria I could cremate 38,844 bodies in 1079 days, crematoria II 94,080 bodies in 640 days, crematoria III 80,556 bodies in 548 days, crematoria IV 86,142 bodies in 586 days, and crematoria V 98,637 bodies in 671 days. That's a total of 398,259 bodies the Nazis could theoretically cremate. This number is woefully short of the claimed 1.1 million, and assumes heavily in favor of the official account.
Just to be clear on the situation of the latter parts of the war, lets use this source on why Nazi Germany lost:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/08/hitler-germany-campaign-collapsed
Nor did Germany's commandeering of the economies of other European countries do much to redress the balance. The Germans' ruthless requisitioning of fuel, industrial facilities and labour from France and other countries reduced the economies of the subjugated parts of Europe to such a state that they were unable – and, with their workers becoming ever more refractory, unwilling – to contribute significantly to German war production...Above all, the Reich was short of fuel. Romania and Hungary supplied a large proportion of Germany's needs. But this was not enough to satisfy the appetite of the Wehrmacht's gas-guzzling tanks and fighter planes.
Germany lost because they were short on manpower, labor, resources, supplies, and fuel. They couldn't expend the fuel needed for the war effort on cremating bodies in their non existent "death camps". The above Wiki pages admit, in clear language, from "official sources", that the majority of the bodies were killed by gassing using Zyklon B (which is extremely difficult to do, if not impossible), cremated in ovens (that were seemingly operated by magic, using fuel the Nazis didn't have), or cremated in open air pits (which doesn't work for cremation), and they exhumed the bodies after death to "hide the evidence", during a time when the Nazis were on the backfoot, being beaten on every front and/or retreating, while short on fuel, manpower, labor, and supplies, with their railways and supply lines being attacked and broken. The notion that the Nazis were able to achieve what is claimed is absurdly ridiculous. Apparently their super evil gave them magical powers to overcome impossibilities.
True, they accuse others of what they're guilty of. They claim their political opponents are inbred, and yet the left/globalists push incest porn. It's so ridiculously transparent that they'd have to willfully ignore the hypocrisy to even post "inbred" as an insult against anyone on the right.
Oh my god, another one. That makes two of you unmitigated fucking retards that doesn't understand that there's more than one death camp
I, and all other Holocaust "deniers", well understand the official position. We're well aware that the "official" Holocaust account says there was more than one death camp. We can disprove the numbers of dead under the official accounts in totality (adding up the crematoria of all death camps), or by individual "death" camps. Not sure why you think that I think there was only one camp.
and more than one method of execution, and more than one way of disposing of corpses.
Typical. Pro Holocaust narrative pushers never, ever, acknowledge that they have to perpetually change the "truth" of the events to account for holes in their theory. The official Holocaust narrative has always said the primary method of execution was gassing, and the primary way of body disposal was cremation. There's no getting around this. It's been beaten into the heads of every single Westerner since Holocaust propaganda became prevalent around the 70s (odd that it didn't start right after the discoveries of all those "death camps" at the latter parts of WW2, or right after WW2), it's been the primary messaging of the Holocaust, and taught in all Western schools. If you admit that your pet theory has to be continually adjusted, then you're tacitly suggesting that your theory is wrong.
You can't deboonk the holocaust because you literally don't know anything about it.
What a strange assertion, when I know more about your theory than you do, or more than you claim. You've already bought into the adjustments to the theory to prevent it from being completely debunked.
This includes your insane comments about rollercoasters. What you don't realize (because you've never looked into the holocaust) is that the only people who have ever said anything about that shit are Holocaust Deniers.
Wrong. Jews were the ones that made those ridiculous claims. Quotes, pictures, and sources have been posted tons all over the chans (pretty much the main free speech forums that were able to discuss this topic) for years and years.
No legitimate source has ever mentioned any of that shit.
LOL. Classic. Appeal to authority fallacy. "Only sources that say what I want are 'legitimate'". Double LOL.
Have you completely ignored the last 3 years of Covid lies? The governments, media, pharmaceutical and medical industries, all over the world, straight up lied to people, repeatedly, for years, leading to the deaths of thousands, or millions (hard to tell given how much they've censored, covered up, and lied about). You're actually suggesting that people are incapable of lying, in "official" sources, "legitimate" studies, "concrete" evidence. Triple LOL.
Actually atrocities like removing gold fillings, stealing all jewelry, forced prostitution, pressure chamber experiments, chemical experiments, random murders, and the mass executions are all verifiable.
Governments have never, ever lied. Governments have never, ever lied about their political opponents, wartime opponents, or created straw men caricatures of either, or conjured fake evidence to paint their opponents in negative light. Governments have never, ever lied to their own people, or used propaganda to get their people to think the way they want. Good lord you're dense.
but you don't know the literal thousands of bodies and skeletons that were dumped into mass graves
Hey, thanks for acknowledging that thousands of bodies were found, a number absurdly, drastically short of the claimed millions of dead. A tacit admission, but a welcome one. You're too dense to see it though, considering you thought that argument worked in your favor. Holocaust "deniers" already acknowledge that lots of people died in WW2. Big shocker! We already acknowledge that mass graves exist, but are accounted by the dead from the war, not from extermination camps.
I'm citing witnesses.
Witnesses that have been repeatedly caught lying. Furthermore, actual experts and witnesses that say things contrary to the official Holocaust narrative have been censored, attacked, and had their lives ruined. Why do you believe the "official" witnesses, but not the people who had their lives ruined? What about the expert leaders of the Allies (Eisenhower, Churchill, and de Gaulle) who wrote memoirs after WW2, and not one of them mentioned the Holocaust, the mass extermination of jews and other undesirables by the evil Nazis? Wouldn't those experts want to claim credit for defeating the evil Nazis and saving all the people they planned to exterminate? Weird. Are you not admitting your own bias, only wanting to believe people who support your position, but ignore everyone else?
I'm citing the accused.
You mean the Nazis that gave confessions under duress of torture? You mean the Nazis that wrote confessions in languages they couldn't speak? You mean the "evidence" that could be conjured up from thin air because all Western legal precedent for fair trials was thrown out the window at Nuremberg?
Again, your ignorance of the event is a refutation of your calculation. You are more back-asswards on this than the people that said Kyle Rittenhouse shot 4 black people in a mass shooting in Kenosha. You literally do not understand enough of the basics of the event to accurately criticize it.
Admit that you're afraid of even asking me to refute the numbers based on simple math, and we can move on. Or, have the courage to challenge your own theory by asking me to do it. I dare you. That, or tacitly admit that you're an intellectual coward, incapable of admitting you're wrong, or even challenging your own ideas and beliefs.
Total fucking nonsense.
I can disprove the Holocaust narrative with just a calculator. Take the number of crematoria the Nazis had, the amount of time and fuel it takes to cremate one body (even using the lower numbers for the more advanced and efficient modern crematoria), and calculate how many people the Nazis could cremate within the given time frame they had. It's physically, temporarily, and thermodynamically impossible for the Nazis to have done what is claimed. I can break this down, very specifically, if you want. Just ask.
The official Holocaust narrative is that most of the deaths in the concentration camps were due to gassing, and that the Nazis cremated the bodies. It's also claimed that the Nazis, in full retreat, to hide their "war crimes", dug up the people they previously killed, and put them in crematoria, to "burn" the bodies, to "hide the evidence". It's also claimed the Nazis did most of these killings, while in a multi front war, with strained supply lines, using railways heavily damaged due to Allied attacks, while short on fuel and manpower (remember the Battle of the Bulge?), and in retreat during the latter stages of the war.
The mass graves found don't account for the claimed number of dead. There are mass graves, counting in the hundreds of thousands, but that was due to the heavy conflict from the war. Even "Holocaust deniers" like myself still claim that roughly 250,000 people died in the camps, but that's mostly attributed to starvation (from broken supply lines) and typhus outbreaks due to lice, which is what Zyklon B is actually used for (fumigating clothing to kill lice).
Furthermore, actual experts in execution methods have examined the Nazi "death camps", and said they couldn't do what is claimed. Look at actual execution gas chambers. They don't use wooden doors. They also don't use Zyklon B, which has problems reaching deadly inhalation levels within the air, especially when it's cold, like it is during European winters.
On top of this, the camps had hospitals, swimming pools, maternity wards, and other non-essential buildings and activities. If the Nazis were exterminating jews and other undesirables, why would they give them all of these things, and not just kill them outright? It makes zero sense. It makes much more sense that they were labor camps, especially since the Nazis were short on manpower in the latter stages of the war.
There are also tons and tons of lies many jews have told about the Holocaust, either for clout, to push the narrative, and/or to get reparations. Thus far, Germany has paid 80 billion Euros worth of Holocaust reparations. Quite a lucrative business, but this is assuming a motive purely on greed. When fully analyzed, greed doesn't explain everything. Such lies include "masturbation machines" used to kill young jewish boys (fake), rollercoasters of death that fling helpless passengers into a pit of fire (fake), making jews into lampshades and soap (fake), giant electric chairs that could electrocute dozens of people at once (fake), open fire pits to "cremate" the dead (this is physically impossible to do), bodies used to fuel fires to burn more bodies (this doesn't happen, it takes fuel to burn a body, and a controlled enclosed environment to create the necessary pressures and temperatures to properly cremate), Anne Frank's journal (fake), etc. Furthermore, the "admissions" of Nazis after the war was due to extreme torture, and many of the admissions were written in languages the German POWs couldn't speak. In one instance, of all the German POWs examined, all but 2 had their genitals mutilated beyond repair. The Nuremburg trials also threw out common legal chain of custody rules, so the Allied accusers could say anything they wanted, present any evidence they wanted, even if it was fake. The documents you're citing are pretty much all fake.
It gets even more ridiculous because the official Holocaust historians claim that intact bones weren't found because the Nazis had numerous bone crushing machines. Most people don't know this, but cremating a body leaves the bones intact. However, not a single bone crushing machine has ever been found.
This is all just icing on a very sick cake, however, because nothing refutes the mathematics of the Nazis being incapable of cremating the number of dead that is claimed. I don't care what else is said. Nothing else refutes this fact.
It's not like this is a bridge too far, either. We all know by now that the people in power lie about everything. Why wouldn't they lie about WW2 or other history? They have every motivation to do so. It's why there are so many WW2 propaganda pieces put out every year (movies, TV shows, video games), portraying Nazis as evil, to reinforce the propaganda we were taught in school about WW2. Propaganda is only effective if its constantly reaffirmed, otherwise people break the conditioning. Fortunately, due to the internet and actual free speech sites, more people are breaking the conditioning anyway.
It's one of the things that helped me connect the dots, to put the perfectly fitting puzzle pieces together. Before becoming red pilled on WW2, I already knew that the people in power lied to us, about everything, in the news, in media, in government, about our history (specifically about slavery and the civil war), but I still adamantly believed what I was told about WW2 history, for reasons I could never adequately explain. Then, through curiosity, I began to visit demonized free speech forums, where I was exposed to censored information and discussion, including everything surrounding WW2, and the world began to make a lot more sense.
Looking back, it's rather astounding how flimsy the current "conservative" normie right position is, about how contradictory my position was before. It posits the well supported position that the people in power are liars, that they have control of pretty much all aspects of society, and yet WW2 history is sacrosanct. The lesson is clear as day: don't trust liars. And yet, many on the right continue to trust liars on specific subjects. It's rather maddening. Fortunately, though, more and more are waking up.
"Because he hated the jews" is absolutely a critical aspect of why he did what he did (which was murder millions of them
Any forum with absolute free speech, that doesn't censor this discussion, has had robust debate about this topic, and many people have presented extremely compelling evidence that this isn't what happened, and that it was physically impossible for the Germans to do. This is one of the central ways for how most of were convinced, how we began to reject the lies surrounding WW2, and realizing how thoroughly propagandized our society is.
The anon still presents a more nuanced position than you can get from most normies, which deserves credit. Even through I've learned a great many censored things about WW2, and related subjects, the arguments I've had with people on this subject (before and after being red pilled on it) does present a conclusion neither side likes. Hitler, NSDAP, and the German people weren't evil incarnate, but they weren't perfect angels either, free from any blemish or mistake.
People and history are more nuanced than many of us like to admit, as it makes arguing for our positions much harder. This goes for either side of a debate, especially one as censored, propagandized, and extremely tribal as this one. Entrenched idealists like to paint in black and white. That's great for logic and truth along the lines of math and philosophy, but not so great when it comes to the real world, where lots of seemingly contradictory things can be true all at the same time.
I remember most of those passages now. Been a bit since I read the first book.
Thank you.
(Also he should be a thirty-something looking redhead but none of the movies ever do that, heh.)
I don't recall that being said about Shaddam IV. Do you have a reference for it?
There is no bottom depth to hell world, only more hell.
You think age of consent is the end goal, but it's not. Many (most?) of the people in power are literal satan worshippers, taking the form of ancient Saturn cults. Such practices involve all forms of sexual degeneracy, and child sacrifice. You don't think there's new ground they can push? What about publically displaying incestual relations, pedophilia, or miscegenation, or any other sexual degeneracy, live on TV, or parade it on the streets like current "pride" events, or in schools? What about publically displayed human torture, or child sacrifice, or open genocide against White people, all while being "celebrated"?
We're nowhere near the end goal. The people in power are evil. Good people are often fooled by evil, because they don't think like them.
I think a great many people are aware of what the mainstream is doing. It's just that they never report on us, except to call us names and how evil we are. We're also censored from talking on any mainstream platforms.
What the fuck is the right doing? It should be a huge scandal with political ramifications, did I hear a single conservative politician on the subject? why are conservatives so bad at fighting all that shit?
It's why I, and many others, have abandoned the mainstream right wing. They don't act in our best interests, they perpetually offer solutions that either don't work, or are 5-50 years too late, or more regularly they just offer "strongly worded" condemnations but don't actually do anything, they don't conserve anything, have capitulated on every subject over the last several decades, never, ever, push back and regain ground that we've lost, even when they've regained political power, and have abandoned their political base (White people) for our Kalergi plan replacements (non-whites), which means they know what open borders and mass immigration is doing, but rather than stop it, have abandoned White people. At the minimum, it makes them ineffectual, cowards, and contemptible weaklings.
Given their repeated pattern of behavior, I believe it's much more likely that they're a controlled opposition, a false choice trap, to entrap people from moving further right, to give us the illusion of resistance, while our efforts, votes, and donations are wasted, to propagandize and lure us with false arguments. It's quite clever, but still abhorrent, evil, and inherently dishonest. Allow heated "debate" within a small window, and control both sides of the debate, while pushing the window toward evil, the true end goal, and attack any opposition outside that window, from both sides.
There are a few wins credited to the right, but that's more associated with local politics, which are less likely to be corrupt, and enable genuine people to prevail. In any case, this false choice trap isn't just with political parties, but with media as well.
The reason why you don't hear mainstream rightwing media pundits or politicians voicing vicious opposition to this clear evil, and effective strategies at fighting it, is that it's all theater. They give the illusion of resistance, but offer none but eventual compromise. We've already seen the mainstream right acquiesce to trannies, trying to push the "based trannies" recently. Give it a few years and they'll be pushing the idea of "based pedos", and that "we were the true pedo supporters all along". I wish I was joking. It's also why you see the mainstream right attack anyone to their right, using the same arguments and ad hominems as the left, and even censor the same certain topics.
In any case, the mainstream right wing needs to be abandoned, and new choices offered, in terms of political parties, leaders, businesses, and media organizations. With how much the mainstream left and right are accelerating toward evil, the opportunity is rife for actual resistance, solutions that work, to regain ground. That starts small, and local. Many don't want to put in the effort, but I do know such people and organizations would gain a lot of support very quickly.
I've only read up to Children of Dune. I'd like to read them all, but I prefer to buy the older hard cover books, which are ridiculously over inflated in price at the moment.
As for my impression, the first 3 books are well worth a read. A relatively minor, if largely impacting spoiler, but the first book is turned on its head. Herbert wanted to warn about messianic savior figures in the Dune saga, like Paul Muad'dib Atreides in the first book. The first book can be appreciated by itself as a classic hero's journey and revenge tail set in a great scifi universe. The Dune saga, however, explores the consequences of that, and of messianic figures in general.
To be vague, and yet clear enough to make the point, Paul's actions lead to horrific atrocities. Paul sees a far flung future problem which he sees no way to avoid, or chooses not to follow the path to avoid it. His children do, however, which affects all the subsequent books, which go much further in time than one would normally expect, and from what I've heard, get rather weird. I've also heard that Herbert intended to write one or two more books, but he knew his time was short (health problems), and wrote fairly strange final chapter, with himself and his wife inserted into the story, as ordinary yet godlike figures looking down upon the galactic story Herbert was telling, but it's really just a thinly veiled final address to his readers and fans, to thank them.
It's obvious, even in book 1, especially in Paul's spice visions, how esoteric Herbert can be. He also makes philosophical commentary throughout subsequent books, which you may or may not like. I appreciate what he's saying, but as I'm inclined that way, I noticed that he contradicts himself in some areas (philosophically), which I venture most people would miss. In any case, it doesn't affect much, because Herbert is very good at his world building, even if it's a bit unique compared to other authors, and the messages he's conveying are genuine. Some chapters/sections get quite abstract and cerebral, which can be tough to read, but overall I definitely recommend the books.
The SciFi miniseries is good. The CGI is obviously dated, but can be ignored because the rest of it is good. To be more efficient with their money, they also used massive painted/printed back drops, which give it an almost stage play like feel. They lean into this by using vibrant colors to highlight characters in specific shots. It might bother some, but I find it endearing.
It does change some aspects of the story, but they're relatively minor compared to what modern Hollywood does. The length even enabled them to add scenes, to expand some characters, like princess Irulan. Whether you agree with the changes or not, the changes are made to try and improve it, and not subvert the audience.
The first book is broken down into 3 parts in the Dune miniseries, which works really well, and doesn't condense the story drastically, or leaving a lot out like the 1984 movie, and even part 1 of the recent movie did. The "Children of Dune" miniseries is also good, and combines the 2nd and 3rd books together, but I like the first miniseries more.
I was looking forward to Dune part 2, until I realized what they did in the casting. The Fremen are all arabic and black. The evil Harkonnen and Sardaukar are White. The Harkonnen are literally albino White. The messaging couldn't be more clear. White people bad, non-whites are oppressed and good. To make it even more blunt, Paul is being played by a jewish actor, who bravely leads the non-whites against the evil Whites. This is probably why they won't (faithfully) adapt the subsequent Dune books, because it turns the first book on its head.
Even though Villeneuve claims to be a big fan of the books, he's said in recent interviews (if I remember correctly) that the female characters aren't focused on enough, and aren't strong enough as female characters, so he's going to change the story. Anyone that's read the Dune books knows that's a profound lie. The women are some of the strongest characters in the lore. The Bene Gesserit are literally immortal, if they choose, by manipulating their body chemistry, but don't for fear of being found out by the Imperium until their plan comes to fruition, and are some of the best fighters in the Imperium. Villenuive said he wants to focus on the female characters more and give them more material, which is just going to create the extremely grating modern feminist girl boss trope, in a story that doesn't need it. It's explicitly said in the first Dune book that the female Fremen fighters are extremely capable fighters, and fight with their men.
Should've seen this coming from what they did in Part 1. They race and gender swapped Liet Kynes. He was supposed to be able to blend in with both the Imperium royal houses and the Fremen. He's described as having "long sandy hair". His father was Imperial but his mother was Fremen. Black people don't have hair like that. Kynes was also supposed to be a stand in for Frank Herbert, a White man. Also, even though it's not explicitly mentioned in the books, Paul and Chani bond over the fact that both of their fathers were murdered by the Harkonnen and the Emperor. There was a lot left unsaid in the Dune books by Herbert, who left clues for his audience, enabling them to fill in the gaps, especially with regard to character motivations.
At most, the entire Dune saga revolving around spice is an allegory for oil and the Middle East, which would make the Fremen Arabic and the Imperium White, if taken at face value. However, the Fremen aren't native to Arrakis. Through thousands of years of immigration, they finally ended up there. I don't recall Fremen ever being explicitly defined in terms of race in the books. Skin color is mentioned sparsely, but only for a few key characters. There were some suggestions in the books of racial differences along planetary lines, and that there are differences between Fremen and the Imperium, but it's left just vague enough to allow other interpretations.
In any case, at the minimum, the race and gender swap of Liet Kynes was an insult to the author himself. At most, it's an insult to the author's work, characters, intentions, and story, perverting it to insert messages Herbert never intended or wanted. Nowhere in the books does Herbert chastise the evil White people and venerate the oppressed POCs, nor would it be smart. Herbert was quite intelligent, and any scifi author knows you make your allegories vague, so they have wider appeal and applicability.
The change in part 1 was a clear indication of what their priorities/subversions were, which is being dialed up in Part 2. It's annoying, because Dune would be a fantastic IP to (properly) adapt, but not in modern Hollywood. I guess I'll have to stick to the SciFi miniseries and the books.
Not really. My younger sister and brother in law are now almost completely red pilled on racial differences, jews, and White nationalism. My older sister and brother are, at the minimum, proud to be White and tired of the bias against White people in current society. My cousin and uncle that live close by are getting increasingly pissed about the treatment of White people too, which is making it easier to make subtle suggestions about race differences and ethno nationalism.
Just because we can't jump to the end doesn't mean people can't be convinced. The propaganda has taken time to take root, so too will it take time to reverse it. The state of the world works in our favor in that regard. All we have to do is point it out, and offer the truth, subtley.
I'm absolutely fine if people want to be proud of their own people, because it spurs on improvement and harmony (theoretically, if they have the ability to do so), if it's also paired with a healthy amount of doubt and self reflection (which is almost non existant in the black community, due to globohomo constantly over inflating their ego). I just wish they'd do it in their own ethnically homogeneous nations, and leave us to do the same in ours. Even if black people want to assume the most magical and ludicrous positions of themselves, fine by me, so long as they do it elsewhere.
Great Britain had made a secret deal with Poland to instigate a war against Germany. Check out this link that has lots of info on this:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html
Britain wanted a war with Germany, and used Poland as a useful idiot to do it. Even if Poland instigated the war, Britain would ally with Poland against Germany. Poland was extremely hostile to the German people living within its newly created borders. Before the end of WW1, all of that land belonged to Germany (then called Prussia), and most of those Germans had lived there for hundreds, if not over one thousand years (many millions of them). The Poles had begun to exterminate the ethnic Germans. Poland had attacked Germany multiple times, openly bragged they could defeat Germany on their own, and openly gave out their invasion plans for Germany. This is what precipitated Germany's invasion of Poland.
However, since Britain didn't give a shit about Poland, Britain only declared war against Germany, but not against Soviet Russia, which invaded Poland at the exact same time. Weird.