Think of how much the concept of space travel captivated America for decades. It was one of the main frontiers of television, inspired numerous songs, and created generational defining media.
When America went for GDP and convenience over awe inspiring goals we lost the luster that inspired millions. The same way we look at historical buildings over brutalism and modern shit shows. Innovation died because of capitalism gone rogue min maxing fiat currency over actually building anything.
When I was a child and into early adulthood, I loved space. But, when I was a child and into early adulthood, I still believed my life would be school+career+wife+kids+live happily ever after. That life came crashing down when the realities of modernity hit me. Then covid happened and now I don't even know if we even went to the moon. I've lost trust in our institutions and I've lost care for our society. It has nothing to do with a lack of awe. I just want a better life than what this society has provided to me. Caring about space is a luxury I don't have anymore.
We didn't go to the moon. The footage is obviously fake. The moon rover is obviously fake.
the only obvious thing here is the CIA kookification op you fell for.
I'm just being a critical thinker
Have you ever zoomed in on a picture of the moon rover and studied it? Or do you just casually glance over it?
The thing is made out of tinfoil, cardboard, and junk you'd find in an alley dumpster. It's something made for a theatrical stage, not the extreme conditions of space.
I don't claim to be smarter than you are. We both know that the government lies to us. You believe the same people who lied to you about the fake vaccine shot and covid and the Iraq war and 9-11 happened to be 100% honest about the man to the Moon mission? You believe they'd have no motive at all to lie about any of this during the Cold war?
If you want to believe the moon landing was real then fine. But don't go out here gas lighting everyone as if the possibility of it being a hoax is preposterous. Give me a break. You're a fool if you didn't at least try to objectively study it from the skeptic's point of view. And if you did and concluded that you believe it is real then you go ahead and believe that and get your booster shots that the government claims are 100% safe and effective.
"the rover doesn't look like what i expect a sci fi space car to look like!! it should look like star trek!!"
dude, please, just stop. we all know the CIA hires people on the regular, or just plain brainwashes them if they don't feel like paying, to type the exact retard shit you are typing now. if you're the latter, watch any one of 5000 amateur, not-government-affiliated scientists/mechanists on YouTube proving a million and one things about space tech. hell, go play Kerbal Space Program with a realistic planet mod, see if you can't go to the moon yourself under the exact delta V constraints we had IRL.
if you're the former, though, we all know what you should do.
Lol you're gas lighting
Pull up a picture of the moon rover. Do it. High resolution.
See the foil? See the cardboard?
It's a shitty, poorly performed Psy-op. When you're over feeling embarrassed for believing in it, you can return here and have a good laugh with all of us about your former gullibility.
this is mongoloid thinking, so i can only assume you are in fact a dalit currently typing from your residence in a garbage-filled ditch.
He's 100% gaslighting you and it's pretty gross.
I believed wholeheartedly the moonlanding was real before, but now I'm not so sure. I'd had some doubts before, but even then, the reporting around that recent Artemis 2 mission seemed odd. So much talk about the difficulties of the mission, about the precise calculations, about the heat exposure and the specific types of materials created to handle them, and all I could think of was to ask myself, "Shouldn't all of this be old hat by now? We should have already achieved all of this 60 years ago, including an additional safe landing and departure from the surface of the moon itself, on a suboptimal terrain."
So now I just can't tell if the entire 1969 moonlanding mission was all bullshit, or if only parts of the footage was fake.
Institutional loss. They stopped making the Saturn V rocket, all the guys making it aged out, and all of a sudden all the little tricks and habits people just knew might as well be magical incantations when looked at from outside.
It doesn't help that the SLS was a kludged together rube-goldberg machine that's the literal equivalent of a flashy show pony that gets taken out behind the shed and shot after it's first showing. People are agog over the spectacle, I'm just thankful nothing fucked up.
That's also my thought, and why I still haven't fully bought onto the idea that the moonlanding was fake. It still seems like it could be plausible it happened, so in the end, I'm just not sure. And that's as much as I can say about it, and I don't expect to ever get any more information that could push me further in either direction on this subject.
Don't get me wrong, I get where you're coming from. I've enough of an understanding of history to be dangerous, so I've known for a while that modern understanding of a good chunk of history is complete and utter bullshit. But between the active, real-time gaslighting around the Covid/BLM bullshit, the whole Charlie Kirk stuff, and fucking Epstein, I've basically come to grips with the notion that roughly... oh, say 60 to 75% of so called 'history' is complete bullshit.
(Before, I would have been more gracious and said 20%, maybe 40% on a darker day.)
How did Neil armstrong talk to President Nixon from the moon with no delay ? Lol
Can't even get a good cellphone signal here on earth. But perfect connection to a land line phone in 1969
We must have lost the technology? Lol
I used to believe that jews were our allies.
Lol.
No shame. I eventually find the truth. Who knows what other silly shit I believe today that might turn out to be lies. I try to requestion everything like a new child.
It could be part of it, but we've seen the death of comedy, action movies, and various other genres that have little to do with civilization aspirational goals. No one takes risks anymore and everyone is afraid to offend. That's a huge part of the problem.
This is largely because lefties, which have owned popular entertainment for 50 years, are afraid of offending their friends, who will ostracize them if they are offended. So, as the rabbit hole of what won't offend the left gets ever and ever smaller, the idea people in Hollywood are constrained by an ever smaller range of ideas, tropes, and plot lines.
It all turned into propaganda instead of art.
That's not true. The USA built elaborate conceptual superstructures for the population to feel obligated to shoot itself in the foot and work against its own self-interests in the form of mass-immigration and other suicidal delusions.
Mass immigration is jewish
All the destructive shit that happened to Western civilization was jewish.
The decline of music began in the 1850s and it has been dead for almost 100 years now.
I never tied it to decline of media, but I can't argue. Even if you flip it around to other old media that isn't sci-fi at all, like westerns, they still were typically very aspirational just set in a different time period.
I've been complaining for ten years how we totally quit trying to do anything cool. We don't try to do the impossible anymore, unless you count impossible as mutilating a man to make it into a woman. Things like computers have become sterilized espionage for the masses. Even AI isn't exactly revolutionary as much as we've just managed to stack enough hardware computation to make it possible. It was always possible since the world of programmable computing existed, just the resources weren't there. I saw this video recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g This guy is an old OS dev who worked for Microsoft in the 90s, and it's about running AI algorithms on ancient hardware.
I'm not sure about music though. I put that on decline of IQ, or perceived decline of IQ as I'm not well versed on whether the IQ has declined a lot.
It comes down to a lack of moral foundation for anything. It's hard to describe the single biggest thing you lose when people become unrooted from deeper meaning, but 'awe' is one word, 'morality, 'goodness', 'grace', 'honour', 'love', 'pride', there's lots of them...
When leftist culture attacked the establishment in the past, certain artists might at least have been creating out of a passion and a feeling of deeper connection to something - some greater moral that they felt the establishment was getting in the way of or corrupting. But with nothing at the core except NPC firmware updates - in the same way there's nothing at the core of our national governments, no pride or representation of a shared value - then you just get a nihilism spiral, where your 'anti-'anything is just performative and the greatest 'establishment' you can possibly attack is the concept of morality or awe. That's how you get anti-aesthetic, asymmetrical, crap architecture popping up because someone got the bright idea that their design principle should be to attack the concept of awe itself.
I personally think it is confirmation bias.
How many hits from the 1920s can you name off the top of your head? The 1840s? The 1770s?
We get once-a-generation talents, and their works are preserved. And we look back upon the once-a-generation talent, and say "all works back then must have been at this quality".
To be a massive success, greater than all of history, a mere three people across thirty years need to make good content that will be engraved upon history. That would put us ahead of everything that came before.
There's a lot more slop now. It is true. There is also a lot more population, both to consoom the slop, and to produce it. But lets not pretend that the folk songs of 1540 were all bangers, either.
Shout out to Yuki Kajiura. She'll be one looked back upon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B588Yp8uF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txfv0t-dxpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqG2Cer_CQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOemssD-Zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rudziat8H_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUuknk81n2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9oJHpeCmHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGQ0yy5F1w
Or their own chickens have come home to roost. You cant traffick the prettiest girls and pay them off with stardom forever. Once feminizm became the MO, that gravy train came to a halt.
On the music side, the same thing happened, but with the mix in of niggers.