Think of how much the concept of space travel captivated America for decades. It was one of the main frontiers of television, inspired numerous songs, and created generational defining media.
When America went for GDP and convenience over awe inspiring goals we lost the luster that inspired millions. The same way we look at historical buildings over brutalism and modern shit shows. Innovation died because of capitalism gone rogue min maxing fiat currency over actually building anything.
When I was a child and into early adulthood, I loved space. But, when I was a child and into early adulthood, I still believed my life would be school+career+wife+kids+live happily ever after. That life came crashing down when the realities of modernity hit me. Then covid happened and now I don't even know if we even went to the moon. I've lost trust in our institutions and I've lost care for our society. It has nothing to do with a lack of awe. I just want a better life than what this society has provided to me. Caring about space is a luxury I don't have anymore.
We didn't go to the moon. The footage is obviously fake. The moon rover is obviously fake.
the only obvious thing here is the CIA kookification op you fell for.
I'm just being a critical thinker
Have you ever zoomed in on a picture of the moon rover and studied it? Or do you just casually glance over it?
The thing is made out of tinfoil, cardboard, and junk you'd find in an alley dumpster. It's something made for a theatrical stage, not the extreme conditions of space.
I don't claim to be smarter than you are. We both know that the government lies to us. You believe the same people who lied to you about the fake vaccine shot and covid and the Iraq war and 9-11 happened to be 100% honest about the man to the Moon mission? You believe they'd have no motive at all to lie about any of this during the Cold war?
If you want to believe the moon landing was real then fine. But don't go out here gas lighting everyone as if the possibility of it being a hoax is preposterous. Give me a break. You're a fool if you didn't at least try to objectively study it from the skeptic's point of view. And if you did and concluded that you believe it is real then you go ahead and believe that and get your booster shots that the government claims are 100% safe and effective.
"the rover doesn't look like what i expect a sci fi space car to look like!! it should look like star trek!!"
dude, please, just stop. we all know the CIA hires people on the regular, or just plain brainwashes them if they don't feel like paying, to type the exact retard shit you are typing now. if you're the latter, watch any one of 5000 amateur, not-government-affiliated scientists/mechanists on YouTube proving a million and one things about space tech. hell, go play Kerbal Space Program with a realistic planet mod, see if you can't go to the moon yourself under the exact delta V constraints we had IRL.
if you're the former, though, we all know what you should do.
I believed wholeheartedly the moonlanding was real before, but now I'm not so sure. I'd had some doubts before, but even then, the reporting around that recent Artemis 2 mission seemed odd. So much talk about the difficulties of the mission, about the precise calculations, about the heat exposure and the specific types of materials created to handle them, and all I could think of was to ask myself, "Shouldn't all of this be old hat by now? We should have already achieved all of this 60 years ago, including an additional safe landing and departure from the surface of the moon itself, on a suboptimal terrain."
So now I just can't tell if the entire 1969 moonlanding mission was all bullshit, or if only parts of the footage was fake.
Institutional loss. They stopped making the Saturn V rocket, all the guys making it aged out, and all of a sudden all the little tricks and habits people just knew might as well be magical incantations when looked at from outside.
It doesn't help that the SLS was a kludged together rube-goldberg machine that's the literal equivalent of a flashy show pony that gets taken out behind the shed and shot after it's first showing. People are agog over the spectacle, I'm just thankful nothing fucked up.
That's also my thought, and why I still haven't fully bought onto the idea that the moonlanding was fake. It still seems like it could be plausible it happened, so in the end, I'm just not sure. And that's as much as I can say about it, and I don't expect to ever get any more information that could push me further in either direction on this subject.
Don't get me wrong, I get where you're coming from. I've enough of an understanding of history to be dangerous, so I've known for a while that modern understanding of a good chunk of history is complete and utter bullshit. But between the active, real-time gaslighting around the Covid/BLM bullshit, the whole Charlie Kirk stuff, and fucking Epstein, I've basically come to grips with the notion that roughly... oh, say 60 to 75% of so called 'history' is complete bullshit.
(Before, I would have been more gracious and said 20%, maybe 40% on a darker day.)
How did Neil armstrong talk to President Nixon from the moon with no delay ? Lol
Can't even get a good cellphone signal here on earth. But perfect connection to a land line phone in 1969
We must have lost the technology? Lol
I used to believe that jews were our allies.
Lol.
No shame. I eventually find the truth. Who knows what other silly shit I believe today that might turn out to be lies. I try to requestion everything like a new child.