Imagine if the new owners of paramount decided to try to appeal to Star Trek fans. Or imagine execs saying “you know the vast majority of people aren’t lgbt, so why are we pandering to that group so much”.
Maybe it’s petty of me, but I’d like to think that even an earnest attempt to appeal to old fans will fall on deaf ears. Besides the fact everything Trek has been shit for almost 20 years now, Paramount made it very clear those old fans were no longer wanted. I would be fine with there never being anymore Trek. It’s a relic of a bygone era and simply can’t be repeated.
But there were enough idiots with no pride who insisted “Picard season 3 is so great because it has old characters in it” so that won’t happen.
Hollywood is too far gone. It's just a bunch of rabid liberals and BLM-style activists screaming into the void at this point. Add to that that they have rules everything has to be woke shit to even be considered for an award and there's no way they're capable of producing anything good these days.
I don't think people understand the degree to which these institutions have been compromised. All of the woke elements we hate are literal "white board rules" now. These studios are not salvageable.
Can’t argue there. I have a mountain of trek books I haven’t read yet and there are so many comics going back to 80s at least. Also didn’t sit well with me how they treated fans doing fan films
Episode III was pretty awesome. Episode II would've been better if the love story was well written. Episode I would've been better without Jar-Jar, without pod-racing and if Anakin had been older.
I guess they got the studio to pay for 2 seasons before they even released S1 because they knew there was no way in hell this woke crap would get renewed.
These days, producers fund two “seasons” up front. I’d guess it’s less expensive to make two season of 10 episodes each at once than to make one season, hard stop, and then wait on approval for a second season. Having downtime while contracts are renegotiated, schedules managed, and sets sit unused can get expensive.
We should be seeing a boom of sci-fi as computer graphics have improved and become cheaper but we see almost nothing at all, and whatever does get made is of incredibly poor quality in all regards.
Problem is that all the well-known IPs are locked down due to copyright. Star Trek, Star Wars, Stargate, Battlestar, Dr Who -- You'll just get shut down if you're doing anything there, and without the name recognition no one will invest budget to actually do anything besides direct-to-video slop.
Economies of scale. If they film two seasons back to back, it removes the spin down and spin up between seasons, making each season slightly cheaper to make without the redundancy.
And correction on Firefly: it died before it even finished one season. 13 episode seasons are common now, but weren't back then. It was supposed to be 22 to 24 episodes.
Simply put, things have changed drastically sense the days of Firefly; though, by this point, I'm half-convinced most of the things happening in Hollywood nowadays are money-laundering schemes.
It had a transsexual bartender and one of the background characters was wearing a hijab. Two of the main male characters are bisexuals, including the pacifist Klingon one. Two of the 'teachers' are lesbians. One of these is a rhoided up and perpetually angry Klingon-Jem'Hadar hybrid, nevertheless we've yet to see an instance of domestic violence, despite all the real world statistics hinting otherwise.
This show is a vehicle for the left-progressive values of the bi-coastal ivory tower elite.
Not a star trek watcher, but I still remember the guilt-tripping they attempted by saying that if Starfleet Academy bombs, the franchise would die for at least a decade. I did hear that there may be a new movie in the franchise from dave cullen, but if there isn't I can imagine the crash out will be huge.
Also I went to the star trek subreddit and there's a huge freak out over this ellison guy having control over the franchise, and some people were calling him a nazi.
They're marching season 2 out to die and they know it. Maybe the silver lining will be that similar shows won't get the preliminary season 2 order before they know it's complete shit.
They started off producing 2 seasons before even airing the fist. Although as others have mentioned, they basically just cut season 1 in half and called it two seasons.
Imagine if the new owners of paramount decided to try to appeal to Star Trek fans. Or imagine execs saying “you know the vast majority of people aren’t lgbt, so why are we pandering to that group so much”.
Maybe it’s petty of me, but I’d like to think that even an earnest attempt to appeal to old fans will fall on deaf ears. Besides the fact everything Trek has been shit for almost 20 years now, Paramount made it very clear those old fans were no longer wanted. I would be fine with there never being anymore Trek. It’s a relic of a bygone era and simply can’t be repeated. But there were enough idiots with no pride who insisted “Picard season 3 is so great because it has old characters in it” so that won’t happen.
Hollywood is too far gone. It's just a bunch of rabid liberals and BLM-style activists screaming into the void at this point. Add to that that they have rules everything has to be woke shit to even be considered for an award and there's no way they're capable of producing anything good these days.
I don't think people understand the degree to which these institutions have been compromised. All of the woke elements we hate are literal "white board rules" now. These studios are not salvageable.
Can’t argue there. I have a mountain of trek books I haven’t read yet and there are so many comics going back to 80s at least. Also didn’t sit well with me how they treated fans doing fan films
Over 30 if you don't like Enterprise and Voyager. I personally have mixed feelings on both, but I know plenty of people who don't like them at all.
It’s kind of like the Star Wars prequels. Sure they have their detractors, but they’re amazing compared to what’s come out since.
The Star Wars prequels are still complete trash. They aren't misunderstood like 1980s The Thing.
Episode III was pretty awesome. Episode II would've been better if the love story was well written. Episode I would've been better without Jar-Jar, without pod-racing and if Anakin had been older.
That N64 pod racing game was the only good thing that came out of the prequels though.
I guess they got the studio to pay for 2 seasons before they even released S1 because they knew there was no way in hell this woke crap would get renewed.
These days, producers fund two “seasons” up front. I’d guess it’s less expensive to make two season of 10 episodes each at once than to make one season, hard stop, and then wait on approval for a second season. Having downtime while contracts are renegotiated, schedules managed, and sets sit unused can get expensive.
Which is another way of saying it's just one season, split in two, to give the impression of greater success.
We should be seeing a boom of sci-fi as computer graphics have improved and become cheaper but we see almost nothing at all, and whatever does get made is of incredibly poor quality in all regards.
Problem is that all the well-known IPs are locked down due to copyright. Star Trek, Star Wars, Stargate, Battlestar, Dr Who -- You'll just get shut down if you're doing anything there, and without the name recognition no one will invest budget to actually do anything besides direct-to-video slop.
The zeitgeist is gone. Our society doesn't plan for the future. It doesn't reward excellence. The hopeful optimism that made sci fi enjoyable is dead.
Why is it, EVERY show gets two seasons nowadays regardless of how bad it is?
Yet Firefly died after one?
Economies of scale. If they film two seasons back to back, it removes the spin down and spin up between seasons, making each season slightly cheaper to make without the redundancy.
And correction on Firefly: it died before it even finished one season. 13 episode seasons are common now, but weren't back then. It was supposed to be 22 to 24 episodes.
grumbles in a single season of B5: Crusade
Simply put, things have changed drastically sense the days of Firefly; though, by this point, I'm half-convinced most of the things happening in Hollywood nowadays are money-laundering schemes.
It had a transsexual bartender and one of the background characters was wearing a hijab. Two of the main male characters are bisexuals, including the pacifist Klingon one. Two of the 'teachers' are lesbians. One of these is a rhoided up and perpetually angry Klingon-Jem'Hadar hybrid, nevertheless we've yet to see an instance of domestic violence, despite all the real world statistics hinting otherwise.
This show is a vehicle for the left-progressive values of the bi-coastal ivory tower elite.
“Over is your series, And too long your series was!”
Not a star trek watcher, but I still remember the guilt-tripping they attempted by saying that if Starfleet Academy bombs, the franchise would die for at least a decade. I did hear that there may be a new movie in the franchise from dave cullen, but if there isn't I can imagine the crash out will be huge.
Also I went to the star trek subreddit and there's a huge freak out over this ellison guy having control over the franchise, and some people were calling him a nazi.
They're marching season 2 out to die and they know it. Maybe the silver lining will be that similar shows won't get the preliminary season 2 order before they know it's complete shit.
It got a second season?
They started off producing 2 seasons before even airing the fist. Although as others have mentioned, they basically just cut season 1 in half and called it two seasons.
A shame they weren't 4 episode seasons, then they could have gotten to season 4!
Shorter seasons doesn't mean more seasons = more success.