It's not just zero downvotes showing, all downvotes have been wiped from the entire site going back since the very beginning. That's how extensive this panic measure has been.
I just checked my replies to comments from lefty schizos that I know were heavily down voted and you're right. In fact, removing my original down vote appeared to add one to the counter, but removed it when I hit the button again. It looks like any engagement at all is bring considered positive
Well, that, and the fact that right after downvotes were nuked, a lot of "Christians" began posting threads about "God is tied to this brick wall, and if you don't like that, you aren't a Christian."
It's suspicious as fuck. Vote manipulation was a problem but it was always obvious due to the topic and users involved. The odd thing is that downvotes didn't stop working for me until a few days after someone first posted about it.
I think I might have been the first on c/meta, but there were several. Interestingly, we were all seeing slightly different behaviour initially, almost as though admin was trying different solutions and finally settled on the nuclear option.
I first noticed it on c/news, then brought the matter to KIA2 where a lot of users didn't see the behaviour at all. Downvotes started working again for maybe a week before the who thing came down.
I'm of the opinion that this is intentional; it's way to specific to be a random bug. I think the admin realise they're losing the narrative on Israel (and the Jews, generally) and giving the site the good old shut-it-down.
That said, does anyone have a suggestion for migration? It seems it's time once again for the free speech people to mosey on down that dusty trail.
Is migration even worth it? For me, it reddit then voat. Then back to reddit when that went to shit. Then poal and, again, back to reddit. Then dotwin/scored.
At some point some shit is going to go down once the new site gets too popular.
Disagree, this has led to the return of the PedoPajeet and other bad faith accounts not being properly labelled as such, especially in communities with lazy moderation.
I never cared about the "mass-downvote" accounts because I never even noticed them. I sort by New so I see all the comments and anything decent that started out with a negative score almost always had it raised by users in an hour or two. It was just never an issue for me.
What is a problem is Indians spamming "14 isn't pedophilia" in every single thread. They used to get clearly marked with downvotes to indicate who they were, even on the non-obvious comments. Now we go back to guessing.
Every community has some level of groupthink that unfortunately is reinforced throug downvotes, but it does allow the community to police itself better. Without downvotes, mods are going to have to be more active.
He's right about the vote manipulation being obvious when certain users caught wind of a certain topic. It was crazy how an uncontroversial comment would become split or even negative when the shill brigade showed up. I don't agree that nuking downvotes completely was the right move. Being able to see who down voted a comment would have been better. Let everyone see the same half dozen accounts every time it happens.
Without downvotes, mods are going to have to be more active.
That probably wouldn't be a bad thing. You guys are obviously an improvement over the previous asshole but I saw an obvious pajeet comment that stayed up for close to a week after I reported it. It only disappeared when the admins nuked the account globally.
I disagree. The downvote button was perfect for filtering out retards, foreigners, bots, shills, Imp, etc.
Real people with real accounts should have their voices prioritized and protected. The downvote button gives me a little bit of control to ensure that happens.
Bots, trolls, Mossad gents, and Redditors don’t get downvoted into the ground anymore so now their comments compete with just a regular poster like me.
I liked looking at my lowest rates comments when bored. Now I don’t know how much people hated me and it could rise my self worth to unwarranted levels. A net loss for all involved.
It's not just zero downvotes showing, all downvotes have been wiped from the entire site going back since the very beginning. That's how extensive this panic measure has been.
Is it ZOGtriots.win trying to shutdown opposition?
Yes.
They basically pulled a YouTube.
They only own pdw. This is coming from higher up. C is the admin for it all.
does he actually own the site or is he a partner?
I just checked my replies to comments from lefty schizos that I know were heavily down voted and you're right. In fact, removing my original down vote appeared to add one to the counter, but removed it when I hit the button again. It looks like any engagement at all is bring considered positive
"Please clap. [Or else]."
Yes, and it pisses me off, it means trolls and malicious tourists will have a much easier time shitting up the community now.
It's not even an official change, just complete silence from the site admins on it
Surreptitious injection of toxic positivity or something to shield bad actors?
I think the timing is cohencidental enough to conclude they are protecting their JIDF shills on PDW and we're just collateral damage.
This. They were absolutely getting destroyed on every post over there and I took great pleasure in calling them out.
Now half of the top posts are from those assholes.
It's easier to fabricate consensus when you hide all of the dissent. It's an old playbook but I guess it's effective since they keep using it.
Well, that, and the fact that right after downvotes were nuked, a lot of "Christians" began posting threads about "God is tied to this brick wall, and if you don't like that, you aren't a Christian."
I think they're preventing all the pro-jew posts from getting downvoted on patriots ad nauseam.
Spez: Weedle beat me to it by 3 hours.
Yes. Not that you hear much from C anyway.
Yes, I can't tell how many Zionists and ardent boot lickers there are on this forum anymore. So I guess it's working as intended.
nah it's easy. they all write the same shit in the same manner. took me exactly one comment to figure out tigers new alt on ziocucks.lose.
One of them even posted a 'writing guide' from the JIDF lol.
happens when you outsorce kikery to jeets.
Link? I'd like to take a peek.
I'm interested in seeing this. I've seen the JIDF 2020 pay scale, and it's obvious they have to be employing Jeets and/or Africants.
Yeah, that's easy. I was referring to seeing zero downvotes on my comments.
You can tell all the usual suspects still. They just won’t have a negative karma score anymore to easily identify them.
It's suspicious as fuck. Vote manipulation was a problem but it was always obvious due to the topic and users involved. The odd thing is that downvotes didn't stop working for me until a few days after someone first posted about it.
I think I might have been the first on c/meta, but there were several. Interestingly, we were all seeing slightly different behaviour initially, almost as though admin was trying different solutions and finally settled on the nuclear option.
I first noticed it on c/news, then brought the matter to KIA2 where a lot of users didn't see the behaviour at all. Downvotes started working again for maybe a week before the who thing came down.
I'm of the opinion that this is intentional; it's way to specific to be a random bug. I think the admin realise they're losing the narrative on Israel (and the Jews, generally) and giving the site the good old shut-it-down.
That said, does anyone have a suggestion for migration? It seems it's time once again for the free speech people to mosey on down that dusty trail.
Feels like the recent war escalated efforts to control downvote spam and the admins just decided to go for the nuclear option.
I’m down. If there’s a place to go, I’ll go.
Besides. There’s no reason to stay on this network once Trump is gone.
Is migration even worth it? For me, it reddit then voat. Then back to reddit when that went to shit. Then poal and, again, back to reddit. Then dotwin/scored.
At some point some shit is going to go down once the new site gets too popular.
Disagree, this has led to the return of the PedoPajeet and other bad faith accounts not being properly labelled as such, especially in communities with lazy moderation.
I never cared about the "mass-downvote" accounts because I never even noticed them. I sort by New so I see all the comments and anything decent that started out with a negative score almost always had it raised by users in an hour or two. It was just never an issue for me.
What is a problem is Indians spamming "14 isn't pedophilia" in every single thread. They used to get clearly marked with downvotes to indicate who they were, even on the non-obvious comments. Now we go back to guessing.
Every community has some level of groupthink that unfortunately is reinforced throug downvotes, but it does allow the community to police itself better. Without downvotes, mods are going to have to be more active.
Which never goes down well.
He's right about the vote manipulation being obvious when certain users caught wind of a certain topic. It was crazy how an uncontroversial comment would become split or even negative when the shill brigade showed up. I don't agree that nuking downvotes completely was the right move. Being able to see who down voted a comment would have been better. Let everyone see the same half dozen accounts every time it happens.
That probably wouldn't be a bad thing. You guys are obviously an improvement over the previous asshole but I saw an obvious pajeet comment that stayed up for close to a week after I reported it. It only disappeared when the admins nuked the account globally.
I disagree. The downvote button was perfect for filtering out retards, foreigners, bots, shills, Imp, etc.
Real people with real accounts should have their voices prioritized and protected. The downvote button gives me a little bit of control to ensure that happens.
Shocking that one of our resident zio-shills feels this way 🙄
I care very much. Why?
Bots, trolls, Mossad gents, and Redditors don’t get downvoted into the ground anymore so now their comments compete with just a regular poster like me.
This is the forum equivalent of mail-in ballots.
I liked looking at my lowest rates comments when bored. Now I don’t know how much people hated me and it could rise my self worth to unwarranted levels. A net loss for all involved.
What’s this change?
They removed the number of downvotes on posts? But why?
Best theory so far is that it allows patriots.win to pretend 99% of the base supports attacking Iran
Oh - to hide the public knowledge that everyone on this site hates the warmongers.
Apparently it is dangerous for us to know that nobody agrees with israel?
ALL downvotes in the history of the site are gone.
Best guess the war isn't sitting well with a lot of people and hiding downvotes like this hides dissent.
Same reason Google-Youtube had to censor the White House downvotes
100% due to Anti-Iran War and anti-Israel sentiment among even the right leaning sites.
Voting does nothing here. Voting does nothing in real life.
Get your dopamine somewhere else.
It does, though. When you sperg out in your hatred of Whites, those downvotes show how much people laugh at you for it.
https://archive.is/CfSZU#selection-2217.0-2239.1
https://archive.is/xbHAr#selection-2467.54-2471.99
You fear that consensus, you fear the fact that Western civilization has a place to organize.
Larry Ellison paid billions to ensure tiktok couldn’t criticize Israel’s murder of palestinians. There’s a fairly high chance admins got bribed
All that money and people still keep criticizing israel. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad.
I’d rather get dopamine here than social media.
I had seen this and thought it was a bug
Is it a (((feature)))?
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