Good example of how "conservatives" conserve nothing. The preamble of the Constitution literally says it's all being done for "ourselves and our Posterity", meaning they built this nation for their future descendants. Then along comes arch-conservative Reagan 200 years later basically saying, "Fuck your posterity, it's for the whole world!" and now conservatism stands for replacing the descendants of the founders and pioneers with cheap foreign labor, subsidized by our taxes.
Vivek himself during this latest crashout tried to suggest that Founding Stock Heritage Americans were less American than FOBs if they didn't slavishly obey every tenet of the fake & ghey 2025 version of the Constitution as a living document.
What's the time table for an effort like that realistically look like and can we afford to employ the strategy without losing the country in the interim?
can we afford to employ the strategy without losing the country in the interim?
Can we afford not to, is the real question.
The Republicans aren't fixing the country; they're just destroying it slower. If nothing changes, we still lose the country, even if we could keep Our Team in power 100% of the time. At least that's my take.
At the rate we are going, we are going to lose our countries either way. The only difference is if it's going to be Red Team traitors or Blue Team traitors.
We'll see. So far every metric has shown the Dems are gaining support. Epstein files have to release soon, which favors the Democrats.
I think we'd see a Reagan style landslide if they promised to jail and execute every member of Project 2025 for treason. Including Musk. Very important.
But the biggest sign that Trump will lose is in the financial markets. SpaceX is preparing for IPO. Musk needs cash, why is that? He's going to spend big on trying to keep the natalist pedophile cult in power.
Epstein files have to release soon, which favors the Democrats.
That doesn't even make sense by your standards. Why release a version of something that makes the group releasing it look bad? Why not just make a new version of the thing that is instead beneficial to the side releasing it?
Meanwhile, Trump, the party, and billionaire donors forced MTG out, and are spending record levels to primary Massie, while running attacks on Rand Paul. After screwing Matt Gaetz. After throwing previous record numbers at the Alaska Republican primary last time, to keep...fucking Lisa Murkowski in power, while ignoring Masters, so we ended up with Mark Kelly. And Lindsay Graham is still being supported by Trump and the party.
It's utterly disgusting. I can't really be bothered to care if the Dems win, at this point. They're worse than the Republicans, but the latter isn't moving things in a positive direction, they just move things in a negative direction more slowly. That's not good enough.
Yep. The Republican party must be destroyed before we can take on the Democrats. They are currently standing between us and the Democrats, so they have left us no choice. If that means we have to let the Democrats take over and destroy them for us, then so be it.
I've been saying this for a while now. There needs to be a 10 year period with absolutely no republicans anywhere. All the grifters will naturally go back to the dems, and then there will be an open political niche for an actual hostile opposition. Going on like the republicans are right now is the worst outcome.
Of course it's all too late, because America and Whites won't survive 10 years of democrat rule. If instead Republicans were wiped out when a democrat actor from California was it's presidential nominee, we wouldn't be in such a dire situation.
That's what happens when you select politicians based on popularity. The types of people who can quickly build popularity are entirely incapable of sustaining it.
No generally it's about ancestry. We can easily point to European ancestry but I'd argue some like the Koreans, Vietnamese and Latinos that trace it back to at least 70 years ago being in the US and have made a contribution to the country can claim to be American.
Those coming now demanding to be given shit easily are not American, European or any westernised country they want to screw up.
but I'd argue some like the Koreans, Vietnamese and Latinos that trace it back to at least 70 years ago being in the US and have made a contribution to the country can claim to be American.
There’s always space for exceptions, every single empire/ world power had exceptions on who they let live there. The problem is when you let people keep the identity of their former nation here, that will always breed conflict. The reason Europeans were able to assimilate is because they ditched the language and loyalty to the countries they came from. They took English Christianized names and were made “like” or assimilated, 1/3 of European immigrants WENT BACK TO EUROPE because they couldn’t assimilate, this was how it worked for thousands of years, and was utterly destroyed by shitlibs and neocons who demand that we fold to foreigners. It was a quiet invasion planned methodically.
Was just listening to some Ben Franklin quotes where he wanted to keep Germans out of OG America because he considered them of the lowest stock coming from the Fatherland. And because they weren't from the Anglosphere, not speaking English so could never be reached.
Has anyone noticed an uptick in anti-White rhetoric? It's not an uptick in the super hateful deranged thing, but an uptick in high profile people saying things like "being pro-White is bad."
They're scared, and trying to tone things down while pushing out more propaganda against any White solidarity.
Definitely nowhere near last year's fiasco, but certainly a trash take. That being said, the ideals he describes, if actually executed perfectly in a perfect world would certainly be a big upgrade from what we currently have. The problem is we don't live in a perfect world.
Even if you don't subscribe to the notion that America should primarily be a white country, I could potentially still find some common ground. But I'll never be able to find significant common ground with someone who believes we could import Somalians, Indians, Haitians, etc en masse and have it be okay so long as they supposedly believe in free expression hard enough or something.
Vivek is presenting the civic nationalist hypothetical, but the reality of that ideology has already appeared. We’ve already seen that non-whites do not abide by colorblindness or merit. Instead, they are all of them ruthlessly tribal and nepotistic. No one except whites have ever honestly and fully embraced the principles of civic nationalism, and so the ideology simply cannot function when non-whites are present in number.
Oh so Vivek renounces AIPAC, BLM, the India Political Action Committee, and all other ethnic advocacy groups and PACs?
Nah, he’s all for various ethnic groups organizing in their own favor, especially Indian immigrants forming a PAC just like AIPAC to advocate for special privilege and power being granted to his street shitting community, which just proves why diversity is not a good thing for unity or anything else that represents American interests…..what Vivek really opposes is the idea of 190 million ethnic Europeans (true Americans) doing the same thing in the system their ancestors designed and built for their posterity. Whites coming together as a group even one third of our total population in the U.S. as a lobby group would dominate all PAC’s out there leading Whitey to take back his country from the parasites who’ve invaded and collectivized over the last hundred+ years.
I have an idea. Hear me out. Let's make American a racial construct. Either you're American or you aren't based on your race; however, let's also designate people United Earth Citizens.
All people of the planet can be a United Earth Citizen so long as they believe in the rule of law, in freedom of conscience & freedom of expression and in racially retarded meritocracy (sorry, I meant raceblind meritocracy).
If you're a United Earth Citizen you're accorded all the rights and privileges that a UN employee is given when conducting their duty but you are not afforded any special privileges for being an American citizen unless you're of the American race.
I mean, they're definitely more American than the dumbfuck natalists pushing Stalinist policy, who should be deported immediately according to laws still on the books from the Cold War.
I used to believe in what he was saying, but it’s clear after BLM, corporate DEI, etc… that it’s a one way street and whites are the only ones expected to allow others to walk all over them.
that streetshitter will say anything to promote infinity pajeet h1bs.
Good example of how "conservatives" conserve nothing. The preamble of the Constitution literally says it's all being done for "ourselves and our Posterity", meaning they built this nation for their future descendants. Then along comes arch-conservative Reagan 200 years later basically saying, "Fuck your posterity, it's for the whole world!" and now conservatism stands for replacing the descendants of the founders and pioneers with cheap foreign labor, subsidized by our taxes.
Vivek himself during this latest crashout tried to suggest that Founding Stock Heritage Americans were less American than FOBs if they didn't slavishly obey every tenet of the fake & ghey 2025 version of the Constitution as a living document.
Fuck off. Nothing is less American than thinking you're entitled to shit for existing, race communists.
Deport!
I was promised this land 3,000 years ago, you bigot!
Kill yourself, street shitter.
You first, natalist.
Fucking Jew nigger crying about people being entitled for existing. You can't make this shit up. Kys faggot
You mean jews like Israel Zangwill, only 100 years later.
True, first you have a liberal pushing the Overton Window, then later conservatives defend those past liberal victories.
Reagan is a neocon bum. Amnesty, foreign wars, and all the bs of a Hollywood actor turned political puppet.
Part of becoming a real right winger is learning that Reagan was actually a horrible right winger.
Whew, this is going to be a fun dive through the comments.
I'm doing my part!
This guy’s going to hand the state of Ohio to the Dems, and I can’t say I would vote for him either. GOP self sabatoge.
It has to happen and it has to be a disasterous, humiliating, incredibly expensive defeat.
"Our browns versus their browns" is not an acceptable future for America.
I wonder if Sargon is right; he suggested a 'zero seats' campaign, to utterly crush and rebuild the Republican party.
What's the time table for an effort like that realistically look like and can we afford to employ the strategy without losing the country in the interim?
Can we afford not to, is the real question.
The Republicans aren't fixing the country; they're just destroying it slower. If nothing changes, we still lose the country, even if we could keep Our Team in power 100% of the time. At least that's my take.
At the rate we are going, we are going to lose our countries either way. The only difference is if it's going to be Red Team traitors or Blue Team traitors.
He's going to lose anyway because the GOP is as popular as banging your head against the wall.
While the Dems are as popular as banging your head against a wall with nails sticking out of it.
We'll see. So far every metric has shown the Dems are gaining support. Epstein files have to release soon, which favors the Democrats.
I think we'd see a Reagan style landslide if they promised to jail and execute every member of Project 2025 for treason. Including Musk. Very important.
But the biggest sign that Trump will lose is in the financial markets. SpaceX is preparing for IPO. Musk needs cash, why is that? He's going to spend big on trying to keep the natalist pedophile cult in power.
Republicans are losing support. There's a difference.
Holy shit are you retarded.
See above.
I never said otherwise. I said the Dems aren't popular. They'll still very likely take midterms.
That doesn't even make sense by your standards. Why release a version of something that makes the group releasing it look bad? Why not just make a new version of the thing that is instead beneficial to the side releasing it?
He's also running unopposed in the primary. His first challenger was some based influencer that signed up within the last week.
Meanwhile, Trump, the party, and billionaire donors forced MTG out, and are spending record levels to primary Massie, while running attacks on Rand Paul. After screwing Matt Gaetz. After throwing previous record numbers at the Alaska Republican primary last time, to keep...fucking Lisa Murkowski in power, while ignoring Masters, so we ended up with Mark Kelly. And Lindsay Graham is still being supported by Trump and the party.
It's utterly disgusting. I can't really be bothered to care if the Dems win, at this point. They're worse than the Republicans, but the latter isn't moving things in a positive direction, they just move things in a negative direction more slowly. That's not good enough.
Yep. The Republican party must be destroyed before we can take on the Democrats. They are currently standing between us and the Democrats, so they have left us no choice. If that means we have to let the Democrats take over and destroy them for us, then so be it.
I've been saying this for a while now. There needs to be a 10 year period with absolutely no republicans anywhere. All the grifters will naturally go back to the dems, and then there will be an open political niche for an actual hostile opposition. Going on like the republicans are right now is the worst outcome.
Of course it's all too late, because America and Whites won't survive 10 years of democrat rule. If instead Republicans were wiped out when a democrat actor from California was it's presidential nominee, we wouldn't be in such a dire situation.
Not just any Dem. The Ohio equivalent of Dr. Fauci. She was the poster child of our Covid response. Enlightened girlboss science lady. Gag me.
That's what happens when you select politicians based on popularity. The types of people who can quickly build popularity are entirely incapable of sustaining it.
Yeet the jeet.
No generally it's about ancestry. We can easily point to European ancestry but I'd argue some like the Koreans, Vietnamese and Latinos that trace it back to at least 70 years ago being in the US and have made a contribution to the country can claim to be American.
Those coming now demanding to be given shit easily are not American, European or any westernised country they want to screw up.
There’s always space for exceptions, every single empire/ world power had exceptions on who they let live there. The problem is when you let people keep the identity of their former nation here, that will always breed conflict. The reason Europeans were able to assimilate is because they ditched the language and loyalty to the countries they came from. They took English Christianized names and were made “like” or assimilated, 1/3 of European immigrants WENT BACK TO EUROPE because they couldn’t assimilate, this was how it worked for thousands of years, and was utterly destroyed by shitlibs and neocons who demand that we fold to foreigners. It was a quiet invasion planned methodically.
Was just listening to some Ben Franklin quotes where he wanted to keep Germans out of OG America because he considered them of the lowest stock coming from the Fatherland. And because they weren't from the Anglosphere, not speaking English so could never be reached.
Has anyone noticed an uptick in anti-White rhetoric? It's not an uptick in the super hateful deranged thing, but an uptick in high profile people saying things like "being pro-White is bad."
They're scared, and trying to tone things down while pushing out more propaganda against any White solidarity.
The (((neocons))) are deploying their gatekeepers in order to reassert control over conservative messaging.
We’re finding out that their actual control - over policy and politicians - never stopped. They were always steering the Trump.
His only loyalty is to his tribe. We whites are the only lunatics who can convince ourselves to live any differently.
Definitely nowhere near last year's fiasco, but certainly a trash take. That being said, the ideals he describes, if actually executed perfectly in a perfect world would certainly be a big upgrade from what we currently have. The problem is we don't live in a perfect world.
Even if you don't subscribe to the notion that America should primarily be a white country, I could potentially still find some common ground. But I'll never be able to find significant common ground with someone who believes we could import Somalians, Indians, Haitians, etc en masse and have it be okay so long as they supposedly believe in free expression hard enough or something.
Well it's not Christmas weekend yet
Vivek is presenting the civic nationalist hypothetical, but the reality of that ideology has already appeared. We’ve already seen that non-whites do not abide by colorblindness or merit. Instead, they are all of them ruthlessly tribal and nepotistic. No one except whites have ever honestly and fully embraced the principles of civic nationalism, and so the ideology simply cannot function when non-whites are present in number.
Yeah, agreed.
Oh so Vivek renounces AIPAC, BLM, the India Political Action Committee, and all other ethnic advocacy groups and PACs?
Nah, he’s all for various ethnic groups organizing in their own favor, especially Indian immigrants forming a PAC just like AIPAC to advocate for special privilege and power being granted to his street shitting community, which just proves why diversity is not a good thing for unity or anything else that represents American interests…..what Vivek really opposes is the idea of 190 million ethnic Europeans (true Americans) doing the same thing in the system their ancestors designed and built for their posterity. Whites coming together as a group even one third of our total population in the U.S. as a lobby group would dominate all PAC’s out there leading Whitey to take back his country from the parasites who’ve invaded and collectivized over the last hundred+ years.
I believe in "No taxation without representation."
Fuck your laws, Vivek. They were not written by serious people. They were written by corrupt money grubbing fuckups.. like you.
A jeet making up laws to exploit and rob Americans should be treated with the same derision as "'john' from microsoft demanding amazon gift cards."
I have an idea. Hear me out. Let's make American a racial construct. Either you're American or you aren't based on your race; however, let's also designate people United Earth Citizens.
All people of the planet can be a United Earth Citizen so long as they believe in the rule of law, in freedom of conscience & freedom of expression and in racially retarded meritocracy (sorry, I meant raceblind meritocracy).
If you're a United Earth Citizen you're accorded all the rights and privileges that a UN employee is given when conducting their duty but you are not afforded any special privileges for being an American citizen unless you're of the American race.
Hide yo TV sitcom kid actors! Vivek's on the loose!
I mean, they're definitely more American than the dumbfuck natalists pushing Stalinist policy, who should be deported immediately according to laws still on the books from the Cold War.
I used to believe in what he was saying, but it’s clear after BLM, corporate DEI, etc… that it’s a one way street and whites are the only ones expected to allow others to walk all over them.