This may come off as a rant but I'm annoyed by how infantilizing everything in the world is today.
Story time. My wife and I had another child a few months ago. When we take our daughter to her checkups the receptionist hands us this tablet and we have to answer a bunch of questions before we can even go back. It proceeds to ask us questions like:
Do you have any guns in the house? (None of your fucking business)
If so, how are they stored? (Again, none of your fucking business)
Name three things you love about your child (Why am I having to answer open response questions?)
What makes this organization think they have the right to ask me these invasive questions? It feels like everything is this way now. Every company or organization treats you with this infantilizing tone like they have to guide you through life.
I don't remember it being this way when I was younger. Has anyone else noticed this shift?
From my experience, the elementary schools are flooded with FOB nons every week with no support.
The teachers get no warning, the principals just walk the new niglets to their classrooms and drop them off cold. A lot of these mini invaders don't even speak English. The teachers are advised to use Google Translate to communicate with them for the year. But then there’s new edicts that the staff also aren't allowed to have their personal phones physically in the classroom.
The autism explosion has also grinded any pretense of instruction to dust. These little spergs have daily screaming meltdowns assaulting fellow students & staff. And the admin doesn't do shit about it like the feckless cowards they are. One or two of these schizos essentially has the classroom locked down for half the day while they have their tantrums because modern teachers aren't allowed to lay a hand on a student for any reason, even in an emergency.
Boy, you couldn't be more right. I do occasional work as a substitute (mostly just to spy on the education system) and it's an absolute trainwreck. I am not exaggerating when I say that putting your kid in public school is child abuse.
Share some stories please
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Then you should know the user you replied to is describing the results of abusing FAPE. Putting kids that don't belong on general education for accounting reasons will never get fixed if you blame the kids that should be in special ed for the situation.
I don't think anyone is blaming the kids in this situation. Obviously the failure is an administrative one but that doesn't change the fact it isn't an environment to put your own children in.
Remember the switch boy? They absolutely blamed him. If you didn't know that the woman who stole his devise had never even seen or discussed the boy's IEP. That boy was doing everything he was supposed to be doing, the woman who stole his device ended up getting fired, and blacklisted.
But, not before she ruined that boys life. Words have power.
I worked for a bit with teens in a residential setting. Some were criminals, most were just dealing with being abused and neglected for years before being placed.
We'd be around their classroom during the school day, too.
Best thing about that situation is that we could put hands on em. I don't miss 5-hour long restraint sessions, but it sounds a hell of a lot better than this.
This is why the zoomer/alpha men are going to turn into straight up nerve gas Imperium extremists.
Maternalistic. Paternalistic would involve tough love and letting people make mistakes for the purposes of self improvement.
Yeah, I thought I might get some criticism of my use of paternalistic but I had already submitted it. Your point is valid.
We live in a societal-wide longhouse.
Payernailiztic is the correct word. The organization involved wasn't acting maternal. It was acting paternal. Taking responsibility for you, attempting to root out danger as it perceived and protect you from external threats as well as the threat of your own stupidity.
I get that it's trendy to blame the wiminz here, but western masculinity is warped to shit as well. Ignore cause for the moment, different discussion.
The government takes the paternal role in society, that's the whole issue with the single mom mill. And then everything downstream of that role (read, everything the government does) is built to accommodate that systematic assumption.
It's both. If you're not my parent you have no business being any flavor of paternalistic with me.
Hmm idk I think in a healthy society, elders act as pseudo parents to a certain degree.
In a village or shared values community, people help guide each other when you see a problem. For instance if you notice a young kid playing with a can of gasoline alone you would be, once again in an actual community, obliged to step in and "parent" for a moment in some manner.
This stifling 1984 safety at your own expense culture based on zog rules is just crap though.
Then they know me as well as my parents. That's the hard requirement. No one taking an hourly rate meets those qualifications and never will.
I see your point though.
I wouldn't have an issue with paid teachers being in charge of my children at school if they were actually part of my community. But thats the rub, we are expected to allow ideologically opposed randos have authority over us and our kids because they got a teaching cert or are a police man.
Its a fundamental breakdown of society that renders these roles hostile to each other, and not the roles themselves to a certain extent.
Came here to say this. Paternalism can be overdone to a stifling point, but that's not what we have.
Only works for White male kids.
It's not infantilizing, it's data collection and totalitarianism.
Exactly. That data is going directly to whatever NGO holds the debt of the conglomerate that owns that clinic.
Find another doctor. Your current one is looking for a reason to take your kids away, or worse. Never trust a leftist, let alone in matters of life and death. They have shown repeatedly that their ideology trumps their hippocratic oath.
You should have walked out as soon as you saw the questions.
Do not answer those questions. Most pediatricians won't require them.
If they do require them, find another pediatrician.
I've mostly just been lying or putting the bare minimum to advance the screen. Haven't pushed the issue by refusing outright yet.
All three of those questions are there to give the State the right to take away your child. Not a single one of those questions has anything to do with your child's health or checkup. $100 bucks says those questions are forwarded to your local police department, or a 'state' psychiatrist.
Even worse, they enter into your electronic medical record which becomes a massive pile of data for authorities to sift through using ai whenever they come up with a new target behavior.
The guns question is a way to ask your political affiliation indirectly (they're not allowed to do so directly).
It's actually the same reason OBGYN's, and pediatricians tell parents to tell everyone to get vaccinated. It would be malpractice for them to tell people that aren't their patient. But, if they can get their patients parents to go full bully bitch then they hope everyone gets higher vaccine rates.
Those questions don't stay at the doctors office.
The gun questions are likely mandated by your or the doc's insurance provider. Modern primary care has all these byzantine funding formulas & incentives where docs don't get paid to actually treat your Chief Complaint. But instead get reimbursed for putting you through totally unrelated health screening protocols as though these overeducated health professionals make a living conducting Internet surveys.
The "tell me 3 things you love about your child" is really wacky though. Never heard of that one, nor can I imagine it's part of any insurer-mandated paid screening survey.
I would imagine it directly created by the presumably female pediatrician, as a way to be a quirky chungus.
All the pediatricians I ever worked alongside were all certified loons. I think it's sort of an offshoot of the woman problem, that it breaks one's brain when their primary purpose is to solely interact with children on their level.
I recall working alongside one whale of a pediatrician where we treating extremely sick children. She would literally Google anything that stumped her and choose the child's course of action whatever the 1st SEO hit was, no matter how sketchy.
Those questions are all part of the national pediatrics board's recommendations, and every one is designed for them to use as a pretense to red flag you and use CPS to steal your kids from you.
I think the question about loving our child was to screen for post-partum depression. The survey was supposed to be for her but she was feeding and I was blazing though it so we could head back.
Loving your child as a specific question would only screen for a ,"We Need to Talk about Kevin" situation. PPD screening is very different.
https://screening.mhanational.org/screening-tools/postpartum-depression/
Yeah, I hadn't considered the PPD angle , but agree that the screening questions don't fit the vibe.
I suspect it's a general question to keep on file to generate rapport. So that the doc can have a little reference in your child's file about personal details about their life that they can bring up randomly at a later date to surprise you and fake that they remember your kid or actually give a shit about them.
I started refusing the questions at my own appointments because I realized I don't think in ratings from 1-10, and I was just making up answers. Then I realized they were documenting my made up answers. How is that helping me, or them?!
I used to think my mother was being paranoid when she would just stonewall cashiers at the Big Box retailers asking for her postal code at the register.
Now I realize that she was actually based & ahead of her time.
Mike Jones phone number, and 867- 5309 are the most used phone numbers last time the topic came up. Everyone happy to share the coupons.
The open answer questions are because medical professionals don't spend enough time with patients to put any personality traits in the chart. So, they have to get it from the patient or the parent depending on the age.
Statistically speaking, anyone answering these questions with "yes" poses a far greater risk to a child's welfare.
Be very careful that you teach your kids not to answer the all stupid questions the schools ask. One of my kids said my little brother smoked when he was in second or third grade, and the police showed up at my door to do a wellness check. My son said right in front of me, and the police officer that my little bro didn't live with us, and he smoked cigarettes.
Yet somehow they wanted me to believe he said something different in school to make them come to my door? Doubtful.
Doesn’t exist. Wrong sex.
everyone is getting longhoused everywhere
Call them credit card skimmers and breach out in the chaos.
yes, 7
recklessly
heart, lungs and kidneys to harvest later
I'd seriously consider accepting the fed visit.
I used to call it the "United States Department of Condescending Paternalism."
Now it's just "Communism." To wit:
They don't. The government gives them grants if they do. They want to build a "psychometric profile" of the population so they can understand how to best manipulate them.
They couldn't broadly do this before due to the lack of computers. Now that you can dump all this data into a database and run open ended queries on it the activity has way more value.
You are nothing more than a data point
Parental whining about the nanny state when they're the reason it exists is peak irony.
Damn, should have thought about ending my bloodline! That would solve everything!
Stick your digital ID up your fronthole. War on parents now, we aren't your fucking kids.
In an alternative universe, you are a beloved stand-up comedian.
Did he co-star with Sinbad in the Shazaam! remake?
In an alternate universe, you accept being wrong instead of being a deliberate contrarian.
Why not both?
I knew you had a bleeding gash 😂
Based UN.
All the while I am denied any guidance through life.