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Illegal immigrant steals man's SSN, causing him debt and 15 years of hardship. Failing NY Times: "Two Men. One Identity. They Both Paid the Price." (archive.is)
posted 201 days ago by YesMovement 201 days ago by YesMovement +95 / -0
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– YesMovement [S] 31 points 201 days ago +31 / -0

BONUS: The illegal killed someone

And then came a detail from a police report that Kluver couldn’t shake. In the summer of 2022, the other Dan Kluverhad been driving to work in St. Joseph when the serpentine belt broke in his car, causing him to lose control at a red light and collide with a grandfather and his 9-year-old granddaughter as they rode on a motorized tricycle. The girl sustained minor injuries, but the 68-year-old man flew off the bike, broke his pelvis in two places, struck his head and died. The driver stayed on the scene, praying and cooperating with the police as he handed over a license and registration for Dan Kluver. He was cleared of any wrongdoing. The crash was ruled an accident. But the victim’s family had filed a wrongful-death lawsuit — with Kluver listed as the defendant.

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– blyat56 26 points 201 days ago +26 / -0

I don't fucking believe for a second that the guy with numerous DUIs just randomly had a "serpentine belt failure" that caused him to somehow accidentally run over and kill someone on a bike

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– YesMovement [S] 8 points 201 days ago +8 / -0

I actually do find it believable the wetback took 0 care of his car.

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– DemolitionsPanda 5 points 201 days ago +5 / -0

Both things can be true.

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– Modeler43 1 point 200 days ago +1 / -0

How?

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– DemolitionsPanda 3 points 200 days ago +3 / -0

You can't see how a heavy drinker who has been caught driving drunk many times can ALSO have a car that is never maintained?

In my experience people who take risks tend to take a lot of them at once. Bald tires and driving drunk, together.

Lots of times a Mexican illegal immigrant who has a serious accident in a stolen or unroadworthy car just heads back to Mexico for two years. The only reason this story made the news is that the guy didn't leave before police caught up with him.

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– daberoniandcheese 24 points 201 days ago +24 / -0

The serpentine belt coming apart while driving should not cause someone to lose control of the vehicle. It's happened to me twice, once on the interstate. You're probably going to lose power steering but it really shouldn't be that hard to keep the thing pointed in the right direction.

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– SR388-SAX 28 points 201 days ago +28 / -0

It also doesn't prevent you from hitting the brakes.

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– OmegaBird 3 points 200 days ago +3 / -0

And shifting to neutral

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– Wizardslayer 8 points 201 days ago +8 / -0

He was probably drunk.

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– NiggerWithAForklift 3 points 201 days ago +3 / -0

Hidden costs of syncretism

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– YesMovement [S] 31 points 201 days ago +31 / -0

https://x.com/stanfordNYC/status/1992757793510555867

One man "paid the price" by having his identity stolen, costing him tens of thousands of dollars and making his life hell. The other "paid the price" by being arrested and charged for the crime he knowingly committed. One of the craziest framings of a story I've ever seen.

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– SR388-SAX 21 points 201 days ago +21 / -0

It's not crazy when you understand that they hate you and want you dead.

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– RondoOBlongo 27 points 201 days ago +27 / -0

Thousands of undocumented workers rely on fraudulent Social Security numbers

You don't hate MSNM enough.

Perez-Bravo had come to the United States for the first time at 16 to help earn money for his family, traveling alone to join his father in Marshall, Minn. He hiked out of the Guatemalan highlands, rode atop a freight train for three weeks across Mexico, nearly drowned in the Rio Grande and took a Greyhound to Middle America, where life somehow felt harder. He slept on a couch in his father’s apartment and enrolled in high school despite speaking almost no English. Then he began to look for a job, but no one would hire an underage worker without papers.

Eventually, a turkey-processing company offered him a position if he could provide an ID to satisfy the government-required I-9 form. A friend who worked at the factory introduced Perez-Bravo to someone who sold sets of names, IDs and Social Security numbers for as little as $250. Perez-Bravo thought the documents looked flimsy and fake, but his friends assured him that at least half of the company’s workers were using similar IDs. He needed a job, and the turkey plant needed workers. Nobody looked too hard at his paperwork, and soon he was making $7 an hour on the graveyard shift, cutting turkeys at night and going to school in the morning.

If only there was some way this could have been avoided... Alas, this is chud's fault because they won't allow globohomo corps to employ underage teens without papers

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– SicilianOmega 4 points 200 days ago +4 / -0

This is how the NYT thinks it should be avoided:

Perez-Bravo wanted to live and work under his own name, so he signed up for extra shifts and stacked overtime until he could afford to hire an immigration lawyer earlier this year. He paid $4,000 upfront only to learn that the pathways to citizenship were essentially closed under the Trump administration for someone with a history of D.U.I.s and deportations, even if he’d stopped drinking and kept his record clean for the past 15 years.

"Just make everyone in the world a US citizen!"

He also has a bunch of anchor babies.

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– realerfunction 21 points 201 days ago +21 / -0

if you're here illegally and you kill a citizen your entire family should be immediately executed in front of you

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– Modeler43 1 point 200 days ago +1 / -0

…so punish a family for the crimes of a the perpetrator? lol what a shit system

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– Theacefospades 3 points 200 days ago +3 / -0

Basically yes. Fuck you.

Its what they're doing to other people. Justice is balance.

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– Modeler43 1 point 200 days ago +1 / -0

Really? innocent families who haven't killed anyone are killing innocent families? Would love to hear how.

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– Theacefospades 2 points 200 days ago +2 / -0

Try reading slowly and carefully. Failing that, repeat high school.

Failing that comit neck rope

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– Modeler43 1 point 199 days ago +1 / -0

As if you wrote anything to indicate that any of what you're saying is true lol

Yeah I'm sure these families who have done nothing are somehow killing innocent families.

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– Theacefospades 1 point 199 days ago +1 / -0

Faggot you cant even figure out what I'm saying. Why on earth would I expect you to be capable of parsing EVIDENCE when you cant even read a claim correctly?

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– Modeler43 1 point 199 days ago +1 / -0

Poor guy gets mad when he's called out for being a twat. More news at 11.

Maybe instead of crying and moaning when someone doesn't agree with you blindly, maybe try proposing some, I don't know, actually intelligent practices?

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– realerfunction 3 points 200 days ago +3 / -0

then stay in your home country

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– YesMovement [S] 12 points 201 days ago +12 / -0

Meanwhile here's how Breitbart covered the story https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/1ARcz6macj/illegal-immigration-is-a-victiml/c/

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– deleted 3 points 201 days ago +3 / -0
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– Adamrises 15 points 201 days ago +15 / -0

when he knowingly impersonated a US citizen

And knew his lie was so complete he didn't even panic at the scene, just handed over the other man's identity to let him take the fall for the entire tragedy.

That's the part here where the malice really shines through to me.

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– DemolitionsPanda 5 points 201 days ago +5 / -0

Stealing a SSN is a felony.

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– cccpneveragain 2 points 200 days ago +2 / -0

This guy belongs in that prison in El Salvador. Wanton disrespect for the law over and over again. He had the chance to learn. If he was really a good person he could have stayed in Guatemala and built his family there. No, he thought it was okay to ruin the lives of at least a handful of Americans.

They fill it full of church stuff hoping to win with weak Christians too. Jesus would have sent you home.

I don't buy the serpentine belt BS for a second either.

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