Multiple industry articles have proclaimed the latest predator movie a big success after a “strong” opening weekend of… just $40 million domestic and $83 million global. Against a projected budget of over $100 million. With analysts saying it needs $262 million to break even.
By what metric is this a success? By straight comparison to the original, of course! The first predator only made $12 million domestic in its opening weekend!
In 1987.
As a completely new IP.
On fewer than half as many screens.
And then went on to make 80% of its total run after opening weekend.
On a budget of just $18 million.
Movie industry media are attaching Saturn V rockets to every goalpost and firing them into fucking space just to manipulate audiences into thinking this modern slop is popular and good. This shit will be lucky to lose $50 million.
Hence them calling it a hit. Most of their movies lose $100 million+ these days.
Completely fair.
“We’re turning this ship around! Bonuses for everyone!”
We're sinking a bit more slowly!
I've seen puff pieces that it's BETTER than the GOATed original movie with Arnie. These people are either deranged or liars.
Also, can we all just admit the new predator is basically just a leftoid attempt to make a "black" (African) predator?
The tendrils now grow on top of his head.not on his crown? And he has brown skin not the yellow green DBZ cell skin, and he has dad issues, and is unironically voiced by a black dude. Come on. That's Black Predator. And they're truing to gaslight us by saying it's not.
I'll watch that shit for free on someone's bummed Disney plus account.
I particularly like the big one going around ranking all their RT scores, with this one at the top followed two of the other modern ones then the original at 4th. Its such a level of disrespect to the franchise I don't see how other people aren't calling it out.
Prey was pandering garbage that wasted its great premise to make a "white colonizers are super evil" plot, and the Adrien Brody one is barely remembered. The fact that either of them rank better than the original is a sign of the rankings being fucked, instead of their quality.
They've been trying for that since at least the second movie, though its gotten increasingly less subtle over time.
Which is hilarious because a) he didn't see the first one then b) doesn't realize they aren't hair. The left is retarded. But it's hilarious how in 1990 movie is bad because the monster looks like a black guy and in 2025 movie is bad unless the monster looks like a bad guy. Different sides of the faggotry coin.
The entire story of the movie is that because the
Blacks/MexicansGangs are so violent and savage that a Predator has free reign because they are always a threat and turned a major urban sprawl into a warzone worse than the fucking jungle from the first movie.There is a lot of "racism" you can pull out of it, if you just want to ignore that that's real life in many cities and thereby not really "racism."
But the protagonist is a heroic black guy…
Professional critics are in a funny bind. They’ve lost all credibility as well as most of their audience, but they can’t course correct without getting canceled. It’s like an enforced self-immolation.
Can't say it better than this tbh. As has been said many times here, I would love to see exactly what financial engineering and capital injections are happening behind the scenes to continue to pay for these movies to be made. Hollywood is slowing down, but they should have been dead by now.
The most likely explanation is that these movies are considered propaganda loss leaders. The money still needs to come from somewhere, though.
USAID, drug money laundering, CIA black budget money laundering (but I repeat myself), money printing...
Ultimately taxpayers are paying for it, somehow. If not directly, indirectly through the social ills associated with them (inflation, lives ruined by drugs, drug crime...)
70% of Hollywood movie producers are jews. Putting the pieces together is candy and levels of difficulty.
Meanwhile, an anime movie about a guy who turns into a chainsaw falling in love with a Russian spy who turns into a bomb grossed $158 million worldwide.
Since 2020 I have been to a theater seven times. The list is Ghostbusters: Afterlife, Top Gun: Maverick, Oppenheimer, Warfare, Dune Part 1 and II, and The Beekeeper. That's it
I am very picky who I give money to, because I refuse to fund people who hate me, my ancestors, my history, and my culture.
Hollywood will never fail, it doesn’t matter how many millions of dollars they lose from producing garbage products, they can’t fail because they are a part of the mega conglomerate corporate hydra that’s owned and controlled by BlackRock….the investment banks (like BlackRock) are just a different wing of the international banks, and the international banks can print up an endless supply of money that they then loan to BlackRock, funds that BlackRock then uses to offset any losses they face in the big 5 mega conglomerates that compose 90% of the economy.
The only people effected by real economics are the people who own small businesses, they either stay profitable or else the bank takes their shit or they get bought out by the mega conglomerates through the endless supply chain of shekels they get from BlackRock, that BlackRock gets directly from the international banks. BlackRock linked businesses can’t lose no matter how much woke shit they produce….only we can lose. The entire economy is fake and gay.
> $100 million dollar budget.
> $262 million to break even
Wut?
For some reason Hollywood doesn't factor in advertising into the budget. Basically, "budget" figures factor in production but not advertising, distribution, or theater royalties. So the general rule of thumb for action flicks is take the budget and double it, and that's how much money they actually spent/will spend on a theatrical run.
Also they advertised the shit out of this movie. I was thinking the other day that I never see movie ads anymore so I never know what's in theaters but this movie was the exception..I've seen no less than 30 ads for it.
That's absolutely retarded. Advertising is part of the cost of getting the movie to market and getting revenue rolling in. Of course it's part of the budget.
It is retarded but there's also a reason why they do it. There's the cost of making the movie, vs the cost of marketing it. The pre marketing budget gives a better idea of the production value. Even a garbage movie can have a 500m budget theoretically.
Has never been the case for Hollywood, at least in modern times.
Domestic theatres get half, international I think it's 60/40 or 70/30 split in favor of the theatres except for China which takes much more. Some companies like Disney get I think 60/40 dem split.
Not sure where the 262 comes from, nowadays lots of movies are made outside the US where tax credits reduce the amount they need to make to break even but now DVD/Bluray sales are much lower due to streaming so they don't have that to make up loses.
Thanks for the nuance. I knew there was a split but didn't know specifics. But same point over all, there are expenses far after/in excess of the production is completed.
In addition to what others have said about the advertising, it's also true that the studio does not take 100% of the ticket revenue. The theater will get some small percentage as well. This is especially true in foreign markets where the theaters get a bigger cut.
That's a much better point. I still think pretending that marketing isn't part of the budget is some finance spreadsheet bullshit. Of course the advertising is part of the cost of producing a movie.
You're talking about an industry that invented its own accounting so it would never pay taxes on its (on paper) nonexistent profits.
And the fact they've been allowed to get away with that for decades speaks volumes.
Of course it is, but like a wise sage once said, "It's Hollywood, Baby!"
The people in this community completely missed how the Eras Tour Movie saved the theatres from bankruptcy during the SAG-AFTRA strike. And, it wasn't by giving them
You are able to go to the theatre because of Swifties.
First time in a box office discussion? It has been this way for decades.
It has a shitty ending. His mom is about to kick his ass for killing his dad? Or maybe be happy? Cliffhanger bullshit.
My kid wants to see it, so we'll probably go this weekend. I'm not expecting much though.
There literally hasn't been a good Predator movie since the 1st one.
Predator 2 was ok. I think the Predator works better in the jungle than the city though. I'm also a sucker for anything Alien, so AvP was good enough for me for an action flick.
Yep, Wolf was the saving grace of AvP Requiem. I quite enjoyed his parts and the writers/directors actually seemed to understand the Predator, something Dan Trachenberg does not.
I liked Cowboys vs Aliens better.
I think Predator 2 and Predators are good movies. Everything else has been horrible slop, including Prey. The Predator almost crosses over into so-bad-it’s-good territory.
Or...you could grow a pair and tell him no. And pirate it instead.
Meh. I like going to the theater and there's nothing else I really want to watch except maybe the new Russel Crowe / Mr. Robot movie, but that would bore him to death.
It's stupid. It's also already online. I watch a lot of stupid movies just to say how stupid they are.