Not saying it's correct - there's propaganda on both sides - but I certainly wouldn't say the chances are 'extremely low' that those were noncombatants.
And how do you know it's in the middle of nowhere? It's hard to make out, but it looks like roads or some sort of structure when it zooms out a bit. It could just be a field slightly outside of town. I could get more 'middle of nowhere' with a couple of minutes drive from my house.
Semites LOVE to dance around in circles. Jews do it. Saudis do it. All the sand people do it. Its highly likely this was a wedding celebration or something
Who cares. It's all just emotional manipulation, from Trump and the outrage about supposedly innocent people dying.
A million people or something like that dead in Ukraine and it's almost entirely our fault - Victoria Nuland and her crew. You think scenes like this haven't been happening for three years now? This attack is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Except Trump's purpose in sharing this is to send the message that he's a madman, we aren't fighting with a hand behind our back anymore, and they better knock it off. Which as vulgar as it may seem may actually save lives.
...It's all just emotional manipulation.........You think scenes like this haven't been happening for three years now? This attack is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
You're not wrong, but I'll tell you the difference, at least for me. Well, firstly, it's an atrocity, whether it's new or not but, more to your point...I didn't vote for Biden, I didn't vote for that evil bitch Nuland. I voted against those people, and think they're absolute monsters.
I voted for Trump (and don't regret it in the slightest, just to be clear), who ran explicitly as the peace candidate, against Kamala who ran almost as explicitly as the WW3 candidate.
So, while this was happening nonstop under Biden, Obama, Bush, and yes, Trump '16, I still absolutely condemn it. When someone I don't support or vote for does it, it's monstrous. When someone I do support and vote for does it...it's a massive betrayal.
I don't care if it's status quo or not, I voted for Trump to precisely not do this. Much less brag about it like a psycho. Trump said Biden was retarded for bombing Yemen and the Houthis.
America has a long and storied history of killing pirates, no reason to stop now. Killing pirates isn't going to start a war, and we do it all the time. Posting about it is odd.
From what I've seen, they're some kind of amalgamation of flesh, and something far more evil. Alive in a way - less creature and more tumor, indolent and lazy to the point they need a constant influx of slaves, cruel to the point of insanity and so genetically damaged that they need fresh new genetic material, or their very physiology begins to crumple.
0%. "Just Following Orders" is not an abdication of responsibility in any court of law since the 1940s, it is not his responsibility to directly oversee every single minor military movement, the direct overseers and the pilots of the strikers are the ones with the moral imperative to ensure that their actions are fair and reasonable within the intelligence given, he is merely reporting (and celebrating) the operation. If anything Trump is a journalist in this matter, not an agent, good or bad.
It's a very common tactic, hell it's a core part of guerilla warfare. Disguise yourself has part of the populace to make it harder to be attacked or the enemy suffers a PR nightmare if they kill innocents.
Not sure what you do when the enemy doesn't give a shit.
I wouldn't personally bet on the intel being wrong - though possible - but we have pissed away almost $1 billion in reaper drones being shot down.
Not that we needed that or the other dozens of billions that are clearly Making America Great Again.
As for how successful the campaign has been going regardless, I wonder. I guess it depends on how much you trust The Telegraph and their anonymous senior Iranian official sources.
Wait and see what some random district judge says on the matter, then everyone will know if they were combatants or not regardless of the facts 🙄
They will order him to cancel the missile strike.
Send the missiles back!
Truly, the most erudite oracles of objective truth are the Judges Of Hawai'i.
I am so old I remember when Biden celebrated he killed some terrorists in Afghanistan.
And it turns out he killed an Aid worker and all his family.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/pentagon-admits-its-killed-civilians-not-isis-terrorist-in-drone-strike/
It's Yemen, in the middle of nowhere not near a village or city that a group of people are gathered round in a formal, almost military style.
Chances of being non combatants extremely low..
According to comments it's at least similar looking to Eid celebrations. Or this.
...Although it looks like those people were armed too. Who the heck knows who's who?
Not saying it's correct - there's propaganda on both sides - but I certainly wouldn't say the chances are 'extremely low' that those were noncombatants.
And how do you know it's in the middle of nowhere? It's hard to make out, but it looks like roads or some sort of structure when it zooms out a bit. It could just be a field slightly outside of town. I could get more 'middle of nowhere' with a couple of minutes drive from my house.
Semites LOVE to dance around in circles. Jews do it. Saudis do it. All the sand people do it. Its highly likely this was a wedding celebration or something
u/DomitiusOfMassilia
Why did you delete the other response someone made that just asked "Highly likely?"
And why no comment on removal reason?
I didnt delete anything
Not you, that's why I pinged Dom.
Someone replied to you, and Dom deleted it.
Sorry for the confusion.
Didn't notice the ping sry
Yup, no problem.
That was my DnD group! We were going to fight gnalls in the desert :-(
First off? Did you mean Gnolls?
If you did...what are they doing in a desert? I thought they were more of a plainsfolk?
Who cares. It's all just emotional manipulation, from Trump and the outrage about supposedly innocent people dying.
A million people or something like that dead in Ukraine and it's almost entirely our fault - Victoria Nuland and her crew. You think scenes like this haven't been happening for three years now? This attack is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Except Trump's purpose in sharing this is to send the message that he's a madman, we aren't fighting with a hand behind our back anymore, and they better knock it off. Which as vulgar as it may seem may actually save lives.
You're not wrong, but I'll tell you the difference, at least for me. Well, firstly, it's an atrocity, whether it's new or not but, more to your point...I didn't vote for Biden, I didn't vote for that evil bitch Nuland. I voted against those people, and think they're absolute monsters.
I voted for Trump (and don't regret it in the slightest, just to be clear), who ran explicitly as the peace candidate, against Kamala who ran almost as explicitly as the WW3 candidate.
So, while this was happening nonstop under Biden, Obama, Bush, and yes, Trump '16, I still absolutely condemn it. When someone I don't support or vote for does it, it's monstrous. When someone I do support and vote for does it...it's a massive betrayal.
I don't care if it's status quo or not, I voted for Trump to precisely not do this. Much less brag about it like a psycho. Trump said Biden was retarded for bombing Yemen and the Houthis.
America has a long and storied history of killing pirates, no reason to stop now. Killing pirates isn't going to start a war, and we do it all the time. Posting about it is odd.
This is a tribal gathering of people in the poorest country in the Middle East. And whether or not they're pirates remains to be seen.
Again, Trump ran on not doing this. I voted for Trump for many reasons, but one big one was foreign policy. This is not what was sold.
Trump ran on not killing terrorists?
He ran on no more stupid wars in the Middle East, not policing the world, and specifically that bombing Yemen is for retards.
This isn't starting a new war lol
It's a tribal gathering of fucking pirates.
Fuck pirates, they're not a nation.
Trump has a history of peace through strength.
Remember what happened to Sulemani? Dumbass Iranian general who was working with terrorists?
Muslims are neither innocent nor people.
I’d say they’re people.
You can say that the sky is red and the moon is made of cheese too. Words aren't spells and devil worshippers of any variety have no humanity.
From what I've seen, they're some kind of amalgamation of flesh, and something far more evil. Alive in a way - less creature and more tumor, indolent and lazy to the point they need a constant influx of slaves, cruel to the point of insanity and so genetically damaged that they need fresh new genetic material, or their very physiology begins to crumple.
50 50
I don't know, what are our top intel people saying in their Signal chat?
Just? No clue.
Overall? He's US President, so 100%, sadly.
Why is it that, no matter who you vote for, you get John McCain?
Israel
They already destroyed an apartment building in Yemen as part of the op that spawned "Signalgate."
They touched the boats. Everything up to glassing two cities is on the table.
0%. "Just Following Orders" is not an abdication of responsibility in any court of law since the 1940s, it is not his responsibility to directly oversee every single minor military movement, the direct overseers and the pilots of the strikers are the ones with the moral imperative to ensure that their actions are fair and reasonable within the intelligence given, he is merely reporting (and celebrating) the operation. If anything Trump is a journalist in this matter, not an agent, good or bad.
They criticized Israel.
Not sure the double tap was necessary. They got fucking Zeused
They have lied to him about military matters before:
"Top US official admits lying to Trump on American troop levels in Syria"
https://archive.ph/SDECM
It's a very common tactic, hell it's a core part of guerilla warfare. Disguise yourself has part of the populace to make it harder to be attacked or the enemy suffers a PR nightmare if they kill innocents.
Not sure what you do when the enemy doesn't give a shit.
I wouldn't personally bet on the intel being wrong - though possible - but we have pissed away almost $1 billion in reaper drones being shot down.
Not that we needed that or the other dozens of billions that are clearly Making America Great Again.
As for how successful the campaign has been going regardless, I wonder. I guess it depends on how much you trust The Telegraph and their anonymous senior Iranian official sources.
iS tHiS wHaT yOu voTeD fOr?
Blowing up shitheel islamic cultists for entertainment? Fuck yeah!