This sort of bitchy whining just makes me want to throw up the salute.
Love the Nazis, hate the Nazis. Whatever. But this shit is weak as fuck. And the anti-Nazis are the ones who have weakened the smear, and made it so people are more comfortable being Nazis. Which I don't think is a good thing, for the record, but point is, they're the ones who did it. The screeching gay soyboys whining about Nazis are the ones who made it so people are "comfortable to do it in public"...to the extent that's even true, which it largely isn't. But they would have been even less comfortable being Nazis, if these leftist retarded hadn't been doing nonstop shark-jumping for the last decade plus.
It's also worth asking why that statement is true. If good vampires, aliens, and zombies are a thing...wouldn't a good Nazi actually be interesting, narratively speaking? Why is it so, uhm, verboten? If every other piece of shit can be a good guy; criminals, murderers, serial killers, demons, Satan/Lucifer, and all the rest, in addition to the previously mentioned ones...are Nazis really worse? Absolutely not...which is in no way cheering on the Nazis. But they're categorically not worse than Satan. So the fact you can't have a good Nazi speaks to the propaganda.
Also, yes, appeal to authority cartoons and vidya. Truly the peak fallacy.
anti-Nazis are the ones who have weakened the smear, and made it so people are more comfortable being Nazis.
Nah, pre-2010's internet was full of shitposting using nazi imagery. Remember the "Hitler did nothing wrong" from the Dub the Dew campaign? It was the easiest way to be edgy and shock people.
I think the nazi hysteria resurfaced after the Occupy movement...
You beat me to it. Baron von Stroheim was portrayed as an honorable man in JJBA Battle Tendency, helping the good guys at every turn against the Pillar Men.
And speaking of movies (since the OP is about movies), Enter Nowhere was a pretty good time travel film and one of the four characters was a Nazi soldier from the middle of WWII who was not portrayed as evil. Plus the play Copenhagen treated Heisenberg very sympathetically, and he was the head of Germany's nuclear program during the war; Benedict Cumberbatch voiced Heisenberg in a radio adaptation.
I'm not a huge film buff, so I'm sure there are others.
Isn't that the entire point of Schindler's List? 🤔
Oskar Schindler (28 April 1908 – 9 October 1974) was a German industrialist, humanitarian, and member of the Nazi Party who is credited with saving the lives of 1,200 Jews during the Holocaust by employing them in his enamelware and ammunitions factories in occupied Poland and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. He is the subject of the 1982 novel Schindler's Ark and its 1993 film adaptation, Schindler's List, which reflect his life as an opportunist, initially motivated by profit, who came to show extraordinary initiative, tenacity, courage, and dedication in saving his Jewish employees' lives.
I'm pretty sure the authoritarian control over every aspect of people's lives (Including ending them for no reason) is the problem we had with Nazis.
The fact that over-categorising, documenting and then processing people all over again is the current reality that certain authoritarian entities think they can do makes Nazis relevant again.
It's just the wrong side that being called them is taking flak and proving how well meaning people can easily get bent into one.
And then, of course, there are those blaming the Juice for it all.
I’m talking about the laws Hitler put in place, not the alleged reasons why those laws were put into place to begin with.
I really should look more into Weimar Germany, as I have no idea whether or not it actually is what people think it is, or if certain cities were their equivalents to NYC/LA and everyone runs with the assumption that the whole country was like that
If they were so overtly bad that there was never a single question about a single one of them having any humanity or even being able to be redeemed, we wouldn't need to teach that they are evil bad guys.
Vampires, zombies, aliens are all instinctually feared by humans without needing to be taught. Once we can conceptualize fear/disgust, we hate them until we are taught otherwise.
So why do the Nazis need us to be taught that from every single angle? Almost like they are trying to build a brainwashing narrative to make sure you never question a thing about them, ever.
I literally just watched a fairly recent French childrensseries, 'the long, long vacation' and it featured a sympathetic nazi. It's not some terribly foreign concept to think that not everyone in germany had their brains swapped to evil mode, if your not a reddit moron at least.
The Nazis were bad because they censored free speech, disarmed the populace, euthanized disabled people, imprisoned political dissidents, and started a two-front war that left the entire country in ruins.
sure, there are plenty other factions among world history that may have been worse, and it's a little ridiculous that so many bad factions get the sympathy treatment when the Nazis don't, but the Nazis were still bad.
EDIT: it really baffles me how many anti-leftists defend socialism on this forum
it was also anything critical of the new government. their net was overcast in pretty much everything, there's a reason the United States and western powers were able to poach their scientists so successfully.
censored free speech, disarmed the populace, euthanized disabled people, imprisoned political dissidents, and started a two-front war that left the entire country in ruins.
Ironically a lot of those things either trace back to the USA, like the euthanasia point, or predict it, like various (D)ifferent attempts to censor speech, disarm people, imprison J6ers, and start multiple wars while often bankrolling all the sides at the same time!
My grandfathers lived under H man and we're allowed to have weapons, good luck getting one in modern Germany now, they would probably search your house and arrest you over a slingshot now.
Censored free speech? That is quite necessary to preserve your society, your freedom to call someone a faggot comes at the cost of some 200kg neon haired sexual deviant land whale sexually grooming your children in schools, because that's freedom of speech/expression. The left as retarded as they are are aware that to hold influence, you have to control speech and language, while the retarded cuckservatives boast about ''I will die for your right to say whatever even if I disagree with it'', and the left is 100% aware of this and weaponizes it against you.
Euthanizing disabled adults I can see it being cruel, but euthanizing soon to be disabled won't see past 20 newborns, I'd argue it's much crueler to let them live, once you meet some of them you quickly realize that.
Imprisoned political dissidents, what's wrong with that? Again, the left openly calls for murder and imprisonment of the right's figures, while the right boasts about ''freedoms'', this is why cuckservatives cannot conserve anything because they believe in ultimate free speech for people who actively want them dead, and also let these people hold political power, when these 'people' at best deserve the gulag.
and started a two-front war that left the entire country in ruins.
Let's not focus on Danzig and Treaty of Versailles and over a decade of foreign influences humiliating your country and people whle economically raping them, how many peace offerings from H man himself have both the french and that drunken british traitor refused? Who was organizing economic boycotts against Germany in the US causing the temporary DAWA movement?
None of these measures are extreme when you consider the fact they're purely necessity when you're dealing with communists, domestic terrorists and pedophiles who have political and academic influence and are set on destroying your people, you and Giz can continue thinking you will resolve things peacefully and by voting, while the left actively wants your destruction, and are open about it.
Who is the they in "why are they so comfortable in public?"
EVERYONE. EVERYONE IS A FUCKING NAZI, REEEEE.
https://youtu.be/tLb2WyOmYDQ?si=qsA61h5AxeVIzCPY
This sort of bitchy whining just makes me want to throw up the salute.
Love the Nazis, hate the Nazis. Whatever. But this shit is weak as fuck. And the anti-Nazis are the ones who have weakened the smear, and made it so people are more comfortable being Nazis. Which I don't think is a good thing, for the record, but point is, they're the ones who did it. The screeching gay soyboys whining about Nazis are the ones who made it so people are "comfortable to do it in public"...to the extent that's even true, which it largely isn't. But they would have been even less comfortable being Nazis, if these leftist retarded hadn't been doing nonstop shark-jumping for the last decade plus.
It's also worth asking why that statement is true. If good vampires, aliens, and zombies are a thing...wouldn't a good Nazi actually be interesting, narratively speaking? Why is it so, uhm, verboten? If every other piece of shit can be a good guy; criminals, murderers, serial killers, demons, Satan/Lucifer, and all the rest, in addition to the previously mentioned ones...are Nazis really worse? Absolutely not...which is in no way cheering on the Nazis. But they're categorically not worse than Satan. So the fact you can't have a good Nazi speaks to the propaganda.
Also, yes, appeal to
authoritycartoons and vidya. Truly the peak fallacy.There is a good Nazi, Oscar Schindler.
Nah, pre-2010's internet was full of shitposting using nazi imagery. Remember the "Hitler did nothing wrong" from the Dub the Dew campaign? It was the easiest way to be edgy and shock people.
I think the nazi hysteria resurfaced after the Occupy movement...
Happened long before that, Nazi uniform was a fairly frequent costume party piece, including by British royalty.
Hey, you do you.
I can think of one. Rudol Von Stroheim.
You beat me to it. Baron von Stroheim was portrayed as an honorable man in JJBA Battle Tendency, helping the good guys at every turn against the Pillar Men.
99% of these people could not define what a Nazi actually is if you forced them to
Sure they can. And here's what they'll say: "A Nazi is anyone I identify as a Nazi."
"A Nazi is anyone I disagree with." Easy-breezy. 😄
Man, he was so close to asking the wrong questions, but those neurons were too flouridated.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe
That Defender X fag is a childish moron
You don't even have to dig that deep, Oskar Schindler comes to mind. I mean a jew wrote and directed a movie about him
And speaking of movies (since the OP is about movies), Enter Nowhere was a pretty good time travel film and one of the four characters was a Nazi soldier from the middle of WWII who was not portrayed as evil. Plus the play Copenhagen treated Heisenberg very sympathetically, and he was the head of Germany's nuclear program during the war; Benedict Cumberbatch voiced Heisenberg in a radio adaptation.
I'm not a huge film buff, so I'm sure there are others.
Isn't that the entire point of Schindler's List? 🤔
I'm pretty sure the authoritarian control over every aspect of people's lives (Including ending them for no reason) is the problem we had with Nazis.
The fact that over-categorising, documenting and then processing people all over again is the current reality that certain authoritarian entities think they can do makes Nazis relevant again.
It's just the wrong side that being called them is taking flak and proving how well meaning people can easily get bent into one.
And then, of course, there are those blaming the Juice for it all.
The actions that lead to the camps started when he took power in ‘33
But the Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919 🤔
I’m talking about the laws Hitler put in place, not the alleged reasons why those laws were put into place to begin with.
I really should look more into Weimar Germany, as I have no idea whether or not it actually is what people think it is, or if certain cities were their equivalents to NYC/LA and everyone runs with the assumption that the whole country was like that
If they were so overtly bad that there was never a single question about a single one of them having any humanity or even being able to be redeemed, we wouldn't need to teach that they are evil bad guys.
Vampires, zombies, aliens are all instinctually feared by humans without needing to be taught. Once we can conceptualize fear/disgust, we hate them until we are taught otherwise.
So why do the Nazis need us to be taught that from every single angle? Almost like they are trying to build a brainwashing narrative to make sure you never question a thing about them, ever.
I literally just watched a fairly recent French childrensseries, 'the long, long vacation' and it featured a sympathetic nazi. It's not some terribly foreign concept to think that not everyone in germany had their brains swapped to evil mode, if your not a reddit moron at least.
schindlers list.
Wasn't there that "The Last Tiger" thing in BFV that people lost their shit about?
The Nazis were bad because they censored free speech, disarmed the populace, euthanized disabled people, imprisoned political dissidents, and started a two-front war that left the entire country in ruins.
sure, there are plenty other factions among world history that may have been worse, and it's a little ridiculous that so many bad factions get the sympathy treatment when the Nazis don't, but the Nazis were still bad.
EDIT: it really baffles me how many anti-leftists defend socialism on this forum
They did not disarm the populace its the complete opposite. Nazi Germany had less strict gun laws than Weimar Germany did.
And Imperial Japan also had less strict gun laws than modern Japan too btw. The allies were the ones who forced gun laws on Japan.
To be fair...everyone has less strict gun laws than modern Japan.
so long as you agreed with the government. if you were a dissident, your guns were taken away.
"censored free speech"
said "free speech" was tranny pedo lgbt communist shit.
https://forward.com/culture/549587/trans-book-burning-library-gay-pride/
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/lgbtq-institute-in-germany-was-burned-down-by-nazis
it was also anything critical of the new government. their net was overcast in pretty much everything, there's a reason the United States and western powers were able to poach their scientists so successfully.
Ironically a lot of those things either trace back to the USA, like the euthanasia point, or predict it, like various (D)ifferent attempts to censor speech, disarm people, imprison J6ers, and start multiple wars while often bankrolling all the sides at the same time!
it was bad when they did it, and it's bad when we do it
My grandfathers lived under H man and we're allowed to have weapons, good luck getting one in modern Germany now, they would probably search your house and arrest you over a slingshot now.
Censored free speech? That is quite necessary to preserve your society, your freedom to call someone a faggot comes at the cost of some 200kg neon haired sexual deviant land whale sexually grooming your children in schools, because that's freedom of speech/expression. The left as retarded as they are are aware that to hold influence, you have to control speech and language, while the retarded cuckservatives boast about ''I will die for your right to say whatever even if I disagree with it'', and the left is 100% aware of this and weaponizes it against you.
Euthanizing disabled adults I can see it being cruel, but euthanizing soon to be disabled won't see past 20 newborns, I'd argue it's much crueler to let them live, once you meet some of them you quickly realize that.
Imprisoned political dissidents, what's wrong with that? Again, the left openly calls for murder and imprisonment of the right's figures, while the right boasts about ''freedoms'', this is why cuckservatives cannot conserve anything because they believe in ultimate free speech for people who actively want them dead, and also let these people hold political power, when these 'people' at best deserve the gulag.
Let's not focus on Danzig and Treaty of Versailles and over a decade of foreign influences humiliating your country and people whle economically raping them, how many peace offerings from H man himself have both the french and that drunken british traitor refused? Who was organizing economic boycotts against Germany in the US causing the temporary DAWA movement?
None of these measures are extreme when you consider the fact they're purely necessity when you're dealing with communists, domestic terrorists and pedophiles who have political and academic influence and are set on destroying your people, you and Giz can continue thinking you will resolve things peacefully and by voting, while the left actively wants your destruction, and are open about it.