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Happenings - Texas bakery owner arrested for employing illegals (www.msn.com)
posted 1 year ago by subbookkeeper 1 year ago by subbookkeeper +99 / -0
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– subbookkeeper [S] 41 points 1 year ago +41 / -0

Sorry for lack of archive but I'm running out the door.

This is huge and a far more effective way of removing illegals.

Deporting illegals is one thing, but if you arrest those that provide the incentives under the existing laws. A) it solves the problems of illegals all at once because you're removing the flame that attracts the moths and B) business owners generally are easier to find and don't live underground.

Thanks to 83671R18 doing the archive:

https://archive.is/CSNsF

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– AgilePickle1123 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Reminds me of all the pawn shops that were using Chilean illegals to steal expensive shit and resell it right in their stores.

Of course that was in New York, so instead of punishing the actual benefactors of illegal immigration, corrupt retards like AoC defend them to make sure their piggy bank gets filled. Nice to see actual consequences in a state not run by retards

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

In parts of Hawaii there are chickens everywhere because the state made cock fighting illegal. It is a thing now to promote the lack of chickens in a neighborhood now.

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– ernsithe 32 points 1 year ago +32 / -0

That's good and all but call me when it's one of the big ag or construction firms getting raided. They've been running double-digit percentages of illegals in their workforce for years and years.

Calling it now, there's more to it. The demographics of this city are crazy. 90% Hispanic. 36% under 18. Southern tip of Texas. They could probably deport most the city, so what's the specific deal with this bakery? Front for something?

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– AccountWasFree 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

It's kind of insane just how awful the construction industry as a whole is for employing illegal immigrants.

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– GloboHomoErectus 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

And it's ruining the reputation of many builders because of poor quality.

If you are buying a new home you NEED to get it inspected by someone who is reputable, not some shill for the builder who says it is all ok.

One of the main things that is faulty is seals on windows, roof insulation, and various bathroom issues. You intend to live there for the rest of your life you stand to lose tens of thousands just in costs for compensating with overusing HVAC and losing all that heat and cooling through the poor insulation and seals.

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– AccountWasFree 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Also worth noting to anyone that doesn't know, but this isn't limited to America. Construction industries around the world use a LOT of immigrant labour, both legal and illegal. It would be rare to walk onto a job site and not hear at least one foreign language being spoken. Here in Australia, it's most likely going to be either Arabic or Chinese, but that's only because most of our illegal immigration is overstayed visas, not illegal border entry.

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– GloboHomoErectus 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Swedes have to have their 2 year certification plus do an apprenticeship, meanwhile illegals just walk in with fake credentials and work for less than half.

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– AccountWasFree 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Pretty similar here in Aus regarding time frames.

That said, depends on what the job is. Here in Australia all you really need to work on a job site is a "white card", which is a basic safety course certificate that takes about half a day to get with a rather small fee. To be a tradesman you'd still need the training + apprenticeship + certification, but you could be on a jobsite as a trades assistant or similar.

But the barrier to getting a white card is non-existent, so all it does is legalise work from illegal immigrants. And that's assuming they're working on a jobsite that actually checks for a white card and does an induction like they're meant to.

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– GloboHomoErectus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

For commercial construction we even have an electronic badge system called ID06 which is supposed to be linked to your passport or national ID card, and yet they still get through because there aren't enough random checks.

Like what is even the point if you aren't even going to enforce the system in place?

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– subbookkeeper [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It's probably easier to pick someone small as a scapegoat so you can put them in jail easily. A giant multi national has a huge amount of cash and lawyers to gum up the process.

You don't need to actually jail many people, just a couple and indict a CEO or two just to let everyone know that the risk is not above 0%. Televise the trials with daily updates. Turn it into the OJ trial of this generation.

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– tralbolh 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I thought they already got prosecuted and just paid the lowball fines and kept doing it.

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– tralbolh 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Replying to myself.

Some have said that, but the fines do increase in later offenses.

1st time prosecution is 275-2000 dollars per illegal employee.(or at least was at some point)

2nd time prosecution is capped at 3000 dollars at some point(may not be the same year as above)(which still seems like nothing compared to the cost to the hospital/road/school/law enforcement systems over the lifetime of an illegal alien)

3rd time prosecution and the offender can receive jail time of up to 6 months per employee, but I didn't see anyone being sentenced to that, though one did take the 3000 fine(big whoop) in a plea bargain to avoid it.

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– Ahaus667 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

The owners, Leonardo Baez and Nora Alicia Avila-Guel

Such strong American names!

What needs to happen now is RICO level shenanigans, any illegal that was aided by a cartel and ends up employed by you? Guess what you just got your business seized for aiding and abetting a terrorist organization.

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– ApexVeritas 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

I'm glad this is happening, but a bakery? Really?

They could quite literally trawl through entire sectors of the economy with nets to catch 10s of millions of illegals. Even morons know that almost all of construction, meat packing, lawn services, cleaning services, and industrial agriculture are populated almost entirely off of cheap foreign labor (i.e. illegals), and have been for decades. Why is ICE not going after those sectors?

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– subbookkeeper [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Because if you make a visible symbol and actually show a business owner perp walking for this, it'll change the climate around employing illegals for everyone.

It's actually hard to deport 10's of millions of people. But if 10's of millions of people are fired overnight, that's a lot easier.

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– fauxgnaws 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Also most Americans will say "hey I could work in a bakery, they're taking my job! good riddance".

But meat packing? I think a lot of people don't want to be chopping up carcasses all day so it's harder to get worked up about who's doing it.

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– 83671R18 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Archived: https://archive.is/CSNsF

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– subbookkeeper [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Thanks mate.

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– acp_k2win 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

about time

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– SR388-SAX 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Offer bounties:

$250,000 for information leading to an arrest of employers of illegal immigrants.

Make the bounties available to the illegals themselves; they receive the bounty and then get a commercial flight back to whatever shithole they came from.

Friend of mine ran a general contracting company in Montana. He was unable to stay in business paying his guys (mostly carpenters) the fair market value for their wages. Too many other GCs would undercut him by 30% because they employed trailers full of illegals and had friends in local/state government that looked the other way.

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– subbookkeeper [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Make the bounties available to the illegals themselves; they receive the bounty and then get a commercial flight back to whatever shithole they came from.

That's actually evilly genius.

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– SparkMandrill83 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Needs to happen more

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– FrensInLowPlaces 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's been a while since I have had to apply for a job. Wasn't there already a system in place that was meant to verify citizenship before hiring? Do we just not require it anymore?

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– Grumman 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yes, but using that system is racial discrimination.

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– subbookkeeper [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I think it's just not enforced

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