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The Assassin's creed series was woke from the beginning (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by Telia 1 year ago by Telia +74 / -0
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– BeefyBelisarius 22 points 1 year ago +22 / -0

The protagonist faction has the motto, "Nothing is true, everything is permitted", so of course it's woke. It's only half a step away from "do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law".

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– SoctaticMethod1 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

That ironically was Altair in the beginning of the game when he takes that motto at face value leading him to fuck up that mission.

Later on he understands the Creed better, I think though Ezio explains it better.

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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I thought there was a "so long as it harms none" clause as part of that.

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– ActiveLurker 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Which is then of course completely dependent on the satanic's opinion on what is harmful and whether or not they're even harming you.

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– SoctaticMethod1 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

I will actually disagree with this and I'll provide the arguments why it WASN'T always woke as someone who played 1 to Black Flag:

AC1: The templars had infiltrated EACH side including the Assassin's and when they were eliminated the Crusaders and Saracens came to a peace treaty without Templar influence.

AC2: The church wasn't involved until the end when Borgia became pope to acquire the artifact, Brotherhood they were more involved under Cesare's influence while his father the Pope was against it and when the Pope was killed by Cesare, the new church officials thanks to Ezio eliminating Cesare's allies sided secretly with the Assassin's. In AC2 it was Nobles working against each other under Templar influence.

AC3: this one was more mixed as Connor through his actions though ended up helping to an extent the Americans gain independence, made MORE people suffer since the Templars were doing damage limitation through the British like trying to protect the native tribes from the patriots. After it looked like Americans would win, they tried replacing Washington with a Templar and was the few times Connor was SUCCESSFUL in stopping something bad.

This is the thing in that it was played as a more nuanced take with both sides wanting peace but the Templars believing that it only comes through top down control and the Assassin's with it must be learned through free will knowing how much suffering would occur in the process.

Once the writing became more shit, is when they started to lean more on the woke side.

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– BeefyBelisarius 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

trying to protect the native tribes from the patriots

Sounds pretty woke.

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– SoctaticMethod1 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

You might be able to say that but I'll be honest, the tribes were the most stupid groups in the game, self sabotaging themselves because they couldn't see the bigger picture (guess that's where Connor got it from)

Though that might be some of my bias, from AC1 to Black Flag, I think Connor was the WEAKEST protagonist because his personality was like Altair with no character growth or Ezio just after his father and brother were killed, just throughout the entire game making constant shortsighted decisions.

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– horstshort 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

the tribes were the most stupid groups in the game, self sabotaging themselves

That's historically very accurate. lel

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

I was about to say the same. They were so busy fighting each other they didn't see Europeans as much of a threat.

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– horstshort 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Until it was too late and then they still refused to adapt. Indians weren't defeated by European superiority. They were defeated by their inability to adapt. The settlers adapted which is why they won in the end.

EDIT: Which is why even today only a few tribes are successful despite getting so many government handouts. Inability to adapt.

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– throwawayaccount2037 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Gotta agree with this assessment about the first three games, especially the third game, which had the most nuanced take.

The Twitter OP failed to account for the fact that Connor failed to save his people because they failed to save themselves, and they even FOUGHT him because he was trying to broker peace with the Europeans.

At the end of AC3 Connor was no longer with the Assassins because he rightly pointed out that they were idiots with a dumb code that didn't hold weight when measured against the realities of the world, and he ALMOST sided with the Templars after his talk with his father (who actually had one of the most sensible monologues in the series), but it looked like they ran out of time and rushed through those sequences toward the end.

But the general theme of AC3 was creed means nothing if what you're using it for is only self-serving and destructive, and it was one of the only times the series took a deep dive into each side, showing the intentions and motivations. Haytham actually was presented really well as a Templar with good intentions and motivations and goals aimed actually bettering society.

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– inquisitivedave 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

We don't need a deep dive into the lore to see that its woke shit.

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– Hellsbells00 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Asscreed was always mediocre slop.

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– StaticNoise2 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

In Assassins Creed Origins, Egyptians are black and Greeks are white.

Then Assassins Creed Odyssey comes out set in Greece and suddenly the Greeks who we saw in the last game have gotten their skin color darkened by several factors because they're the protagonists this time.

When they were evil oppressors you were killing, they were all pasty white.

But now, we want a Greek locale so time to darken their skin to a more middle eastern brownish color.

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– smokeypanda 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

First game suffered from decades of brainwashing that the crusades were bad wars against natives, but at least portrayed war profiteering by unloyal bankers.

2 and/or Brotherhood had a shitlib writer, from the Daily Show, for the riddle minigames deciding that FDR and Al Gore good, Churchill Stalin (class traitor) and G.W. Bush bad; betraying the cynicism of the first game. At least 2 had Ezio give a speech clarifying the creed.

Unity might have portrayed monarchists as good, never played it.

Using Sowell's typography, the series always had a wrong leftwing slant. Are human beings assumed fundamentally trustworthy or fundamentally flawed?

The series would have been better if it emphasized the flawed worldviews of the average assassin, but that would require heterodox writers working for a privately owned company. Star Wars suffered similarly with it's prequel era Jedi. It's fine to have objective good and evil, but show the damned order as evidently flawed. Make Yoda an exile preceding the start of episode 1.

The modern day protagonists have a very weak presentation, written by people who listen to NPR and soyface over Nintendo Wii themes. Reminds me of 2:23-2:27 of https://youtu.be/9VvmixeowNI?si=nTc2RbuDWCOzYjIY . That modern day stuff where I'd pinpoint the vulnerability to wokeness, the same retards that would attend a BLM rally than topple the CCP.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

"As a Qatari Shill who never played these games in 2006: here's some bullshit slop-posting. Am I right, guys?"

AC1 was literally stripping the Christian-Muslim conflict into: "The Templars (ancient alien worshiping authoritarians) are a global threat to all Earth." The Hashishins are not even Muslim in the game. They are explicitly just a secret society of assassins for hire that have a long standing conflict with The Templars as a faction that crosses all known religious and political boundaries.

You are lazy and ignorant.

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– Adamrises 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It is really amusing how he went from "I know nothing about this series, was it always woke?" a few days ago to now making definitive statements that it was always woke based on a screenshot he saw on twitter.

Certainly a person with well reasoned beliefs based on critical thought we should take very seriously.

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– Telia [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

What do jews have against Qatar? i remember that Japanese video about AIPAC going viral on twitter and some jewish person started going on about how Japan was being funded by Qatar.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

As a professional retard and a Qatari shill yourself, you refuse to look at it in the other direction. What the fuck does Qatar have against the jews? Why do you support terrorism? Why do you support Al-Qaeda? Why do you support ISIS? Why do you support child-rape in England? Why do you support slavery?

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– Telia [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

everyone has problems against jews. Jews have gotten kicked out of 109 countries the better question is why do jews upset so many countries?

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

How many countries are National Socialists banned in? What do you do to deserve it?

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– Telia [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

National socialism is an ideology not a group. Many countries follow similar ideology to the national socialists even if they don't call themselves that such as Syria used to be before Assad was toppled for example. Unfortunately such countries tend to get destroyed by America either through color revolutions or war or invasions because the American government spends its time doing what jews want.

Now answer my question why have so many countries rejected jews throughout history?

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You're answer is that you are the real victims and national socialists dindu nuffin

You project onto jews what you say yourself

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– IanBrandonAnderson 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

This is why Rogue is the best game in the series. Oi make me own luck.

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– Streetshame 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Fuck the Storm Fortress fight

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– Maskurbator 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Plus the whole sci Fi element of reliving ancestors memories was retarded from the beginning. They could have just made it a fantasy/era thing. My guess is the game developers had extra 3D models lying around from a shelved sci Fi game, and don't want them to go to waste so contrived a way to use them in a game that took place in ancient times by shoehorning the tech bullshit in. The game was try hard from the beginning.

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