Allegedly 'woke is dying' with all the corpos ditching DIE and paying tribute to Trump. I think this is hopium and woke is only being paused. Unless woke is thrown out of a helicopter, its going to keep coming back like an infection.
Idk if companies are virtue signalling about dumping DIE. They are still souless and I will still be boycotting their junk.
I'm still not going to buy a AAA game in the foreseeable future. This is an easy boycott due to my steam backlog and based indie devs existing. Even a $5 AAA sale is too much of my money to waste on people that want me dead. I'm not sorry to say that I take pleasure in woke game developers getting fired in mass. Again, these are people that want me dead.
I'll still keep checking grocery store products. If I see a P&G, Unilever, etc logo on it, back on the shelf it goes. I'll still keep driving by goyslop vendors such as McDonalds, Burger King, Popeyes, etc.
My boycotts are not just petty activism. I see them as improving myself. Boycotting AAA games prevents my mind from being poisoned and boycotting goyslop and woke products keeps my body from being poisoned.
Seethe and lose sales corpos, you don't fool me.
I've recently had this discussion on another forum I frequent, so I'll paraphrase what I said there.
Yes, woke is dying, but that doesn't mean we're winning. Woke was never really the problem: it was always just a tool. A means of control. There will never be any culpability or accountability from the corpos, governments and other institutions that spent years pushing woke propaganda and implementing DEI policies. Instead, as soon as they realized they could no longer use Woke as a metric to exercise control over people's behavior, they abandoned it and are now pretending they never did any of that and that it's always just been a right-wing conspiracy theory.
So, yes, there is no reason to suddenly start rewarding all of these same organizations for suddenly dropping the woke messaging, because they never believed any of it in the first place and they were only ever using it as a weapon to strike you with. The fact that they're coming to you now, cap in hand, begging you climb back onto the obedient consumer wagon doesn't mean they don't still hate you.
In fact it means you've almost pulled their walls down enough that they might soon finally face some consequences for lying to your face and brainwashing kids. So now they're asking for a time-out to rebuild their protections and never pay for a single thing they've done.
This speaks to me as a Civilization enjoyer.
I beg the AI to sue for peace when they have my walls down and city surrounded.
And then immediately ragequit if they don't and capture it anyway.
Indeed. In the likely even that Ubisoft is dismantled at the end of this year, I can't see many (if any) companies learning what they did wrong. Admittedly, though, I ironically think that a few consumers outside of scored.co will have an idea as to why Assassin's creed shadows was negatively received - it really pissed off the Japanese crowd they were aiming at, and since they are all about "muh cultural sensitivity" I think they could agree that Ubisoft completely mishandled that. Not that they're going to completely acknowledge how the portrayal of Yasuke hurt it, but I think they would definitely need to acknowledge why people didn't like the game since they can't keep calling 90% of gamers alt-right.
Honestly I think it's too late even if they did learn, simply due to the lag time of a game's development cycle. It'll be another few years before a repentant studio can manage to get a non-woke game to market because they'd be starting from scratch right now.
Well said. Exactly right that woke is the tool, woke people are the useful stooges
I saw Kid Rock doing a MAGA clip the other day.
It made me remember his comments almost immediately after the Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light boycott that he wasn't actually serious about it or intended it to be indefinite.
The right isn't very good at sustained pressure or following through vs being enraged at the next Current Thing.
I was reminded last night that yesterday was the 1 year anniversary of the NYC Jewish tunnels story. That's been right memoryholed and unresolved. Think about how many faddish other similar stories have cycled through the RW peanut gallery since.
In my case, I don't offer forgiveness to faceless companies. Once they have sided with the enemy they forfeit any claim to impartiality and they're dead as far as I'm concerned, and what's more it's not easy to earn back my business.
To paraphrase I forget which one of those freaks, it's not enough to not be leftist. You have to be anti leftist.
I'm willing to EVENTUALLY give up the boycotts. Once it's clear that this is an actual cultural change, and not just a pithy platitude. Once we see a cultural change that is reflected in the workers themselves, then there might be a change in what I do or rather do not buy. But until that is beyond clear, nothing is changing any time soon.
My perspective is companies don't make decisions, people do, and the people making the decisions need to suffer personal consequences before I'm willing to call the score settled. ESG bullshit was pushed from the top down and the people at the top won't suffer any serious consequences until the entire company is essentially ruined.
Hurting a company's bottom line a little is just squeezing the poor bastards at the bottom, just hurting them a little and stopping is the worst outcome, if you're gonna do it you have to finish the job clean.
Which is why I said that there needs to be a change in people and their behaviours. And I said workers, but I should have said everyone within the company. Because I do believe that some people (emphasis some) are capable of change. But seeing that change is important. I don't care about being told they've changed, it needs to actually be seen. Money where their mouth is, ya know? Once that's happening, maybe we can revisit the idea of ending a boycott, but not a minute sooner.
Sure people can change, but committing an offense and "changing" without paying penance isn't good enough. That just incentivizes being opportunistic two-faced fairweather cheating.
They have to actually pay a personal price to incentivize having actual integrity. Being "CEO of a company that burned to the ground" is way more likely to tank their career and ability to hop around than just being "ex-CEO of a company that is doing fine now."
If the same CEO, COO, CFO, or CHRO is present, any of the four, then there has been no change. A company is a modular entity, if its component parts are tainted, it can throw them up and find new ones. If it has the same Chair of the Board, same deal.
New Chair, new C-suite, ideally a mostly new Board of Directors in general. Then you can say the winds are shifting. If someone goes on record saying they hate you and want you and your kin gone, expunged from the world... That's a mighty strong sentiment, and them saying "that was so 6 weeks ago, trade winds change, buddy! We're cool with you now!" doesn't clear that statement.
Woke is dying because the cudgel is breaking. They'll just pick up a new cudgel. Whether it's BRIDGE or something else.
I'm a kind of guy that holds grudges for long time, boycotting the companies I don't like are piece of cake. There's a part of me that wish gamers in general held the same views I held and never forgive the turncoats. They say holding grudges is a personality flaw and I used to believe that, but now? It's a valuable trait to have if you want self-preservation.
One of many items on my increasingly long list of "Wow, that's exactly what my enemy would say to escape the consequences of their actions."
It's only a grudge is you stay mad at people who have paid their due penance. Staying mad at people who have avoided consequences for years isn't a grudge, that's a commitment to justice.
These people haven't paid a dime of what they owe yet.
Forgiveness requires contrition. A word that society is no longer familiar with.
I've been boycotting Gillette for six years and I don't plan on stopping. The trick is to not try and boycott everything evil, because we live in an evil world which makes that impossible. You'll get fatigued instantly and give up. You have to pick a small handful of the most obviously evil things and rally against those.
I'm the same way, proudly. I still don't buy Sony products because of their rootkit scandal, and that was 20 years ago now.
Don't believe the "Woke is dying", it's BRIDGE now instead of DEI. Instead of a department for woke shit they want to woke EVERYONE. Don't trust these companies, they'll still put out woke slop, woke messaging etc.
I can tell if something is worth boycotting by a single video frame lmao
I will retain all my boycotts until either EA stops being a piece of shit (so all EA games are banned), rockstar CDPR and bioware specifically renounce in a public statement that ESG is dead and DIE was a mistake so all their games are banned, and Ubisoft changes ownership, stops being a piece of shit AND renounce ESG and DIE, so all their games are banned, too.
I'd also like to add that my EA boycott has been in place since mass effect 3 ended and I've not slipped from the iorn grip of hate since. So my boycotts are iron clad.
Woke isn't dying, it's being put away. It will come back quietly in a different manifestation while having already fundamentally affected the culture. Woke basically won and it's on us to pull out the roots. No one gives a shit about the leaves.
This is correct.
Their next move is to pivot and rebrand.
The question is, will normies eat up the slop and will those who are aware of the tactics fold or hold the line?
What did Unilever do?
As for maintaining your boycotts. Obviously. You haven't seen any noticeable difference in these companies. Only announced changes and minor cosmetic policy updates.
Why are people declaring victory? The war is still going on.
Unilever is Ben&Jerry's, which on the one hand are LGBTQQIIIAWTFMAP+++++ and they have terminal TDS, and on the other hand, because they have advanced TDS, they're aware Trump is well-beloved by Isreal, and make many performative measures against the Jews because of it, which actually got them censured by DeSantis for too much Isreal hatin'. But they're really terminal TDS, full on Orange Man Incarnate Satan, everyone who voted for him is an evil dude, kinda vibe.
Though if B&J is their only objectionable one, apparently Unilever is actually selling off the I.P. and firing the 7500 people involved with it. They still own Dollar Shave Club, though, which IIRC had some drama.
Good for you. I also try and abuse these services as much as possible with onerous returns etc.
DEI isn't being ditched, it's just being rebranded to hide all the same nefarious behaviors under a new label.
At this point I'm not even actively boycotting, I literally simply no longer have interest. I've found other entertainment.