They are running out of time. I suppose it's possible that Biden could throw his soiled depends outside of Marine 1.
After all, the entire White House staff removed every letter W in the White House from every keyboard when Clinton lost, so it's not impossible for them to be that petty.
Yeah, that's how I remember it too. Also something about the Clintons stealing something petty like some of the White House china? Or maybe it was something else they swiped, it's been a lot of years.
After all, the entire White House staff removed every letter W in the White House from every keyboard when Clinton lost, so it's not impossible for them to be that petty.
I'm shocked that they'd be that petty over Tweedle Dee being replaced by Tweedle Dumb.
Despite Biden and Obama complaining about the illegitimacy of the pseudo-judicial military courts for "Enemy Combatants" (being that they are effectively unconstitutional) both of them continued to use these military courts because dragging these individuals into US Federal Court could basically undo the extrajudicial system that the Bush admin set-up, and allow them Constitutional protections under US law, possibly even destroying Hamdi v. Rumsfeld decision by SCOTUS that created the "Enemy Combatant" rule in the first place.
For some reason, Biden's Secretary of Defense (Lloyd Austin) and his fellow confederates agreed to a plea deal that would stay the executions of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, Walid Bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi. This caused a public relations scandal. As a result, Lloyd Austin simply had the judge in their case removed to try and invalided the plea deal. The attorneys for the terrorists, obviously, appealed to... well, the same military pseudo-court system that just had a judge removed by the SecDef. The court found it's own behavior correct, and that the SecDef couldn't just remove a judge that the SecDef didn't like because the SecDef agreed to a plea deal that was no longer palatable politically.
So, after having promised to undo the Patriot Act, end the Enemy Combatant Courts, and Close Guantanamo Bay 17 years ago, the final act of the Obama & Biden regimes was to do none of those things, and then spare their lives.
I will remind you that at the time, there was a fair bit of anger from Congress regarding the congressional review of the Bush Regime's Torture Program because the CIA had secretly hacked into Nancy Pelosi's office to review the memo ahead of time, which was a criminal act that they were not held accountable for. At the time, the Democrats believed that ever since the creation of DHS, the intelligence agencies were running wild... really they were just serving a Republican president. Once the Dem's got ahold of the intel agencies themselves, they saw no issue with any of the actions the intel community did or is continuing to do.
So, after having promised to undo the Patriot Act, end the Enemy Combatant Courts, and Close Guantanamo Bay 17 years ago, the final act of the Obama & Biden regimes was to do none of those things, and then spare their lives.
The object was to violate civil liberties, not to get "the tehrists".
Like a brilliant comment here once said, 9/11 was not a casus belli for the invasion of Iraq, it was one for the invasion of the US.
these assholes would go after SS guards today.. but lol.. showing mercy to terrorists that killed 2000 americans and msot of us are still alive when we saw it happen.
All I can tell you is that, like the JFK assassination, the part that people are allowed to focus on is the part that obviously matches the mainstream narrative.
Ain't no thermite. Building 7 was badly damaged. Yes lightpoles got clipped from Flight 77.
Now, the part where FBI Agent Rick Riscola was fired from the FBI for pursuing the Al-Qaeda investigation and he was so certain of a return attack that he was hired on as head of security at Morgan Chase and given control of the entire WTC complex, and was last seen alive on the 80th floor directing thousands of people out of the building while singing "Men of Harlech"? They don't talk about that. They don't talk about how the CIA was fully aware of the movements of the perpetrators. They don't talk about how the monetary funds were tracked. They don't talk about how the FBI had liaisons assigned to the CIA's observation team and didn't attempt to make any arrests. They don't talk about how the NSA was literally harassing both the FBI and CIA for months leading up to the attacks, stating that it was the largest attack that AQ had ever planned with the largest chatter they had ever seen. They don't talk about the fact that that same story can be repeated for almost all of the military intelligence agencies who were depending on federal law enforcement to do literally anything.
Those are the parts that don't get talked about enough.
Same reason everybody is allowed to talk about Dealy plaza, and not the fact that Lee Harvey Oswold was a notorious Communist agitator who was employed by the Soviet Union and that if that information had been well known, it would have resulted in Nuclear War. Nor that the best evidence of an LBJ coup comes from the ATC tapes of his staffers screaming at white house staffers over a connected phone line through ATC, which also involved LBJ staffers storming into the White House, dumping shit off desks, and getting into fist fights with Kennedy staffers.
Don't forget John O'Neil predicting they were going to use a plane for some sort of attack because of his intelligence from Al Qaeda only to get fired because his briefcase with secret documents suddenly went missing and the FBI conveniently had justification after that.
I don't think being a "truther" and believing islamists were involved are mutually exclusive. Even if they were put up to it and/or ignored by the US/Israeli governments, they ought to be punished
Is your definition of truther "there is some fuckery about and they are hiding some shit?" If so then yeah most people would probably fall under that label here, because only a fucking moron would believe 100% of the government's claim on anything.
No, that's just common sense. My definition is the spectrum from the fairly intelligent "the USG intentionally let it happen" to "the planes were holograms and the passengers were taken to a military base to be shot".
That's a spectrum so wide that its literally useless as a metric.
Just as soon list "people who believe the JFK assassination wasn't exactly as told" under the same insulting umbrella label as "believes that JFK shot himself due to quantum mechanics."
Perhaps. To be clear, I wasn't classifying what you said (not believing everything in the govt account) as in the truther category, only people who believe they intentionally let it happen.
As far as I can see, most truthers seem to belong in the stupid category, though not quite as stupid as the example I gave. The 'jet fuel steel beams' crowd.
most truthers seem to belong in the stupid category
They do, that's why to most people that's the entire definition of truther. Its a specific set of extremist beliefs about the event that necessitated a unique word for itself.
The same way that colloquially most things stop being "conspiracy theories" once they reach a certain level of reasonability and proof, even if by strict definition they still might be.
(X) Doubt
Yep, it's still almost two weeks until inauguration day. That's plenty of time for more.
They are running out of time. I suppose it's possible that Biden could throw his soiled depends outside of Marine 1.
After all, the entire White House staff removed every letter W in the White House from every keyboard when Clinton lost, so it's not impossible for them to be that petty.
That was when Gore lost; Clinton was termed out.
Wasn't it the Clinton Staffers that did it though?
It was the Clinton/Gore administration staff, yes, but it was Gore who lost to W Bush in 2000.
At the time I thought the prank was amusing, now I'm more just annoyed that they wasted yet more of my tax dollars being petty bitches.
They're bureaucrats. They have literally nothing else.
Also, you know damn well that someone just said, "fuck it" and instead of ordering W keys, they ordered 1,000 new keyboards for 10 million dollars.
Yeah, that's how I remember it too. Also something about the Clintons stealing something petty like some of the White House china? Or maybe it was something else they swiped, it's been a lot of years.
You mean the VVhite House
I'm shocked that they'd be that petty over Tweedle Dee being replaced by Tweedle Dumb.
Bush was going to usher in a Evangelical Theocracy that would kill America, as I recall correctly. So this level of pettiness was necessary.
Ha... Ha... Ha... :(
We still have 13 more days....
Despite Biden and Obama complaining about the illegitimacy of the pseudo-judicial military courts for "Enemy Combatants" (being that they are effectively unconstitutional) both of them continued to use these military courts because dragging these individuals into US Federal Court could basically undo the extrajudicial system that the Bush admin set-up, and allow them Constitutional protections under US law, possibly even destroying Hamdi v. Rumsfeld decision by SCOTUS that created the "Enemy Combatant" rule in the first place.
For some reason, Biden's Secretary of Defense (Lloyd Austin) and his fellow confederates agreed to a plea deal that would stay the executions of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, Walid Bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawsawi. This caused a public relations scandal. As a result, Lloyd Austin simply had the judge in their case removed to try and invalided the plea deal. The attorneys for the terrorists, obviously, appealed to... well, the same military pseudo-court system that just had a judge removed by the SecDef. The court found it's own behavior correct, and that the SecDef couldn't just remove a judge that the SecDef didn't like because the SecDef agreed to a plea deal that was no longer palatable politically.
So, after having promised to undo the Patriot Act, end the Enemy Combatant Courts, and Close Guantanamo Bay 17 years ago, the final act of the Obama & Biden regimes was to do none of those things, and then spare their lives.
I will remind you that at the time, there was a fair bit of anger from Congress regarding the congressional review of the Bush Regime's Torture Program because the CIA had secretly hacked into Nancy Pelosi's office to review the memo ahead of time, which was a criminal act that they were not held accountable for. At the time, the Democrats believed that ever since the creation of DHS, the intelligence agencies were running wild... really they were just serving a Republican president. Once the Dem's got ahold of the intel agencies themselves, they saw no issue with any of the actions the intel community did or is continuing to do.
The object was to violate civil liberties, not to get "the tehrists".
Like a brilliant comment here once said, 9/11 was not a casus belli for the invasion of Iraq, it was one for the invasion of the US.
I can't argue with that.
congratulations america! we get to babysit mass murders for the rest of their lives!
rummage rummage rummage
Ah, here it is. Once more for old time's sake
these assholes would go after SS guards today.. but lol.. showing mercy to terrorists that killed 2000 americans and msot of us are still alive when we saw it happen.
They say they hate Ukrainian Nazis from 1941-45, but they love Ukrainian Nazis from 2014-24.
Trump should stick them in general population in a military prison. Then let the fun begin.
Or we could just have executions by firing squad and get this nonsense over with.
Wait, aren't 95% of people here 9/11 truthers?
All I can tell you is that, like the JFK assassination, the part that people are allowed to focus on is the part that obviously matches the mainstream narrative.
Ain't no thermite. Building 7 was badly damaged. Yes lightpoles got clipped from Flight 77.
Now, the part where FBI Agent Rick Riscola was fired from the FBI for pursuing the Al-Qaeda investigation and he was so certain of a return attack that he was hired on as head of security at Morgan Chase and given control of the entire WTC complex, and was last seen alive on the 80th floor directing thousands of people out of the building while singing "Men of Harlech"? They don't talk about that. They don't talk about how the CIA was fully aware of the movements of the perpetrators. They don't talk about how the monetary funds were tracked. They don't talk about how the FBI had liaisons assigned to the CIA's observation team and didn't attempt to make any arrests. They don't talk about how the NSA was literally harassing both the FBI and CIA for months leading up to the attacks, stating that it was the largest attack that AQ had ever planned with the largest chatter they had ever seen. They don't talk about the fact that that same story can be repeated for almost all of the military intelligence agencies who were depending on federal law enforcement to do literally anything.
Those are the parts that don't get talked about enough.
Same reason everybody is allowed to talk about Dealy plaza, and not the fact that Lee Harvey Oswold was a notorious Communist agitator who was employed by the Soviet Union and that if that information had been well known, it would have resulted in Nuclear War. Nor that the best evidence of an LBJ coup comes from the ATC tapes of his staffers screaming at white house staffers over a connected phone line through ATC, which also involved LBJ staffers storming into the White House, dumping shit off desks, and getting into fist fights with Kennedy staffers.
Don't forget John O'Neil predicting they were going to use a plane for some sort of attack because of his intelligence from Al Qaeda only to get fired because his briefcase with secret documents suddenly went missing and the FBI conveniently had justification after that.
I don't think being a "truther" and believing islamists were involved are mutually exclusive. Even if they were put up to it and/or ignored by the US/Israeli governments, they ought to be punished
Is your definition of truther "there is some fuckery about and they are hiding some shit?" If so then yeah most people would probably fall under that label here, because only a fucking moron would believe 100% of the government's claim on anything.
No, that's just common sense. My definition is the spectrum from the fairly intelligent "the USG intentionally let it happen" to "the planes were holograms and the passengers were taken to a military base to be shot".
That's a spectrum so wide that its literally useless as a metric.
Just as soon list "people who believe the JFK assassination wasn't exactly as told" under the same insulting umbrella label as "believes that JFK shot himself due to quantum mechanics."
Perhaps. To be clear, I wasn't classifying what you said (not believing everything in the govt account) as in the truther category, only people who believe they intentionally let it happen.
As far as I can see, most truthers seem to belong in the stupid category, though not quite as stupid as the example I gave. The 'jet fuel steel beams' crowd.
They do, that's why to most people that's the entire definition of truther. Its a specific set of extremist beliefs about the event that necessitated a unique word for itself.
The same way that colloquially most things stop being "conspiracy theories" once they reach a certain level of reasonability and proof, even if by strict definition they still might be.
That was a great episode of Red Dwarf!
Wait, aren't you a communist tranny loving faggot?
Tranny loving? I'm sure you can substantiate that.