No, plenty of people have been trying to speak out about this for years, including the actual victims. They were harassed, threatened, and even jailed for daring to question The Message about mostly peaceful community cohesion and continue to be so as recently as the stabbings last year which saw riots that the police took full action against, despite only weeks prior standing down when a different group rioted because children were removed from an abusive household.
Is the system fucked? Yes. Are there people trying to call this out? Also yes. Does painting the entire set of islands as a single homogeneous group do anyone any favours? No, despite the irony of that being the very goal of The Message and "community cohesion" in the topic, but then the "rest of the world" rarely understands just how actually diverse the individual nations making up Britain can be let alone how they vary from nation to nation.
Does painting the entire set of islands as a single homogeneous group do anyone any favours?
I'd feel bad about doing this, but they've done the same back to us Americans for decades now despite most states having just as much diversity as half of their little island alone, let alone the whole nation.
So its really just karma coming back to them in a way.
yep. im tired of this "morale high ground" or "we are better than this" kinda bullshit. that kinda attitude is the thing that allowed us to get taken advantage of in the first place.
I don't think its worthwhile for "allies" that were happy to shit on us and stab us in the back before, and would go right back to doing that if we were to save them.
And I'm not on board this growing train of "fellow whites" being this monolith I must support no matter what as if them being better than niggers and sandniggers is a mark of praise. Its mostly those same "fellow whites" (and not just Jews pretending) who got us in this mess and have learned zero lessons from it.
In terms of who's more fucked anyway, I'd say it'd go Scotland, Wales then England then Northern Ireland in the UK.
The Scots lost all semblance of a representative government years ago, Wales is just as leftist occupied but because less people and very rural area, not as much people to suffer like England.
Nothing as much happening in Northern Ireland as everyone seems to recognise the last thing they want to start is a competition of who's the better terrorist group, Muslims or IRA..
The Message about mostly peaceful community cohesion and continue to be so as recently as the stabbings last year which saw riots that the police took full action against, despite only weeks prior standing down when a different group rioted because children were removed from an abusive household.
Not even just weeks before. Didn't they do nothing against Muslims rioted with machetes after the Bad Riots, even though people doing literally nothing were jailed for years, and you normally have potato peelers confiscated by these heroic cops?
The leadership in question is voted in by a much smaller number than what US elections manage. FPTP means not only are some regions completely devoid of the winning party, but have never voted for them as a local majority in decades, if ever. The secondary and tertiary problem with this situation is that neither do the alternative parties ever really offer anything different, remember before the current Labour gov the Tories were in power for about 14 years, but also that the population never really seems to stick to actual alternatives when "offered" them. So it swaps back between Red or Blue just like in the USA except the differences between the two now seems even less obvious than when Blair rewrote the playbook.
I'm a dual citizen, half English and half American, and shuttled between London/Oxford and Manhattan for most of my life. I lived in Paris for five years and in Budapest for two years.
America has its problems, France has its problems, Hungary has its problems, but Muslim grooming gangs are NOT one of them.
Muslim grooming gangs are, as far I can tell, PURELY a British (mainly English) problem. Even the other Islamised countries in Europe don't have this problem.
I cannot explain this difference but the difference is STARK. It's only Britain, and within that, only ENGLAND.
yeah, I should have been more clear. I mean similar in the sense of politicians turning a blind eye to immigrant and refugee-related crime for fear of being branded racist.
that being said, you raise an interesting point, why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem? additionally, why is it most of the perpetrators are pakistani muslims? is it a leftover grudge from the imperial days? is it the sheer concentration of pakistanis in England? is there some unique factor to england that doesn't exist in the rest of the world?
Understanding the why would go a long way to addressing the issue, though even then you have to have leaders with spines...
"Why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem?"
I do not know, but I strongly suspect that the British class system has something (I cannot yet identify what) to do with it. Then-PM Gordon Brown was able to send around a "circular" to all plod around the country announcing, basically, that since these underage girls were essentially white trash, they ought to be considered as consenting and no police ought to get involved.
France had a touch of it, and arrested the rapists involved- deterrent achieved. Same for the Netherlands, and same for Belgium.
Only Britain was instructed not to touch these rapists - this after reports of a 12 yr old getting her tongue being nailed to a table as she was being mass-raped, and an 11 yr old being raped with a broken bottle, destroying her internal organs. She spent six months in hospital and can never have children. Knowing all that, Gordon Brown sent all police in Britain a stand down notice.
I hope the truly evil people who read these reports and STILL commanded that police universally stand down because they were "slags" (at 11 yrs old- hardly likely) burn in hell, but before they do, I want to see them tried and imprisoned.
I joined Twitter in 2010 specifically to follow Tommy Robinson. Kicked off around 6 or 7 times by gangs of Islamists and Leftists (the group whose radar I was on all had the word "fluffy" in their user names, and would regularly tell me stuff such as they would behead my mother and fuck her throat, etc).
Believe me, I know this has been a topic of long term discussion. But it is REALLY something to see it under such a bright spotlight and to be able to speak freely on the subject on X. It's still completely incredible to me and I fervently believe that this opportunity should not be wasted.
No, one of them was convicted for preparing a terror attack. I'd have to go into my old computers to remember his name - he was - and I am not remotely joking - a ginger convert.
Edited to add: There seemed to have been at least 100-200 of them, all UK Jihadis who posted death threats to him daily and chatted casually to each other about joining ISIS. Twitter never censored any of them. They found me because I posted supportingly of TR. The pile-on REALLY got going after the beheading of Lee Rigby.
Interestingly, many of them were hysterically screeching women. They were, as a group, the most disgusting I have ever encountered. The things they said were so viscerally horrific and so casually graphic. Zero respect for life, and so arrogant and entitled. I genuinely hated them.
With deliberately both vague and vivid descriptions, the narrator depicts a summer festival in the utopian city of Omelas, whose prosperity depends on the perpetual misery of a single child
Well, almost the same. Except that it's a dystopia and that its wretchedness depends on the perpetual misery of hundreds of thousands of children.
encyclopediadramatica has many more accurate and biting names for that hugbox (warning, not safe for work, barely safe for life It's ED, though, so what do you expect, lol).
Yeah. Unfortunately every instance I found was a PDF. So given the choice between linking a binary here, linking to some random's literature blog, or linking to wikipedia, I picked the latter.
It’s wild to see liberals defending the r*pe of innocent children, and its subsequent cover-up in the UK just because Elon Musk is talking about it.
How is this a partisan issue. We are in deep trouble as a society if we cannot agree that children being raped as spoils of failed immigration war is bad.
The UK government will do nothing, and Elon knows that, so he's set a fire under them to prompt them to ban X and set in motion so-called Human Rights articles by which he can destroy them.
So what was the straw that broke the camels back and allowed this to be "public"? Was it all Tommy Robinson? or was it the sentencing statements that the judge made being released?
It seems it was GBN's Charlie Peters' reporting of the judge's detailed recounting of some of the more horrific aspects of the Oxford rape gang (one of the largest in the country). Peters was apparently the only reporter in the courtroom and the details he recorded were insanely grisly.
Peters published on X (and GBN), Elon took notice, and the rest is, as they say, history.
Any 'British' trying to explain this is excusing his own oppressor. They don't actually have to do that. You can be critical of the crimes of your government.
This is a country that now jails critics of the Government, important figures and celebrities for years in prison. The BBC this morning called for the extradition, trial and jailing of Elon Musk for his criticism of the Government.
It's only a matter of time before the repealed laws on sedition return.
The current UK government is functionally indistinguishable from a Muslim theocracy. The invasion and occupation is complete. If brits ever do rise up, they will be reconquering a lost nation.
Lots of beautiful women in Britain. You won't see them in the Daily Mail, but have a wander round the shires and you will be floored by the beauty - and I don't just mean the rolling hills...
No, plenty of people have been trying to speak out about this for years, including the actual victims. They were harassed, threatened, and even jailed for daring to question The Message about mostly peaceful community cohesion and continue to be so as recently as the stabbings last year which saw riots that the police took full action against, despite only weeks prior standing down when a different group rioted because children were removed from an abusive household.
Is the system fucked? Yes. Are there people trying to call this out? Also yes. Does painting the entire set of islands as a single homogeneous group do anyone any favours? No, despite the irony of that being the very goal of The Message and "community cohesion" in the topic, but then the "rest of the world" rarely understands just how actually diverse the individual nations making up Britain can be let alone how they vary from nation to nation.
I'd feel bad about doing this, but they've done the same back to us Americans for decades now despite most states having just as much diversity as half of their little island alone, let alone the whole nation.
So its really just karma coming back to them in a way.
yep. im tired of this "morale high ground" or "we are better than this" kinda bullshit. that kinda attitude is the thing that allowed us to get taken advantage of in the first place.
I'm fine with it when its practical and logical.
I don't think its worthwhile for "allies" that were happy to shit on us and stab us in the back before, and would go right back to doing that if we were to save them.
And I'm not on board this growing train of "fellow whites" being this monolith I must support no matter what as if them being better than niggers and sandniggers is a mark of praise. Its mostly those same "fellow whites" (and not just Jews pretending) who got us in this mess and have learned zero lessons from it.
im a straight, asian male.. i recognize that after you white people are gone. we are next.. so yeah..
In terms of who's more fucked anyway, I'd say it'd go Scotland, Wales then England then Northern Ireland in the UK.
The Scots lost all semblance of a representative government years ago, Wales is just as leftist occupied but because less people and very rural area, not as much people to suffer like England.
Nothing as much happening in Northern Ireland as everyone seems to recognise the last thing they want to start is a competition of who's the better terrorist group, Muslims or IRA..
Wales is basically a single party state held hostage by urban elites, and has been since devolution in the late 1990s
I still remember your retarded island chain blaming Americans for racism from 1990-2016.
You're absolutely right.
Not even just weeks before. Didn't they do nothing against Muslims rioted with machetes after the Bad Riots, even though people doing literally nothing were jailed for years, and you normally have potato peelers confiscated by these heroic cops?
I wouldn't say the British People, but certainly your leadership has dropped the ball in a big way, regardless of what party is running what...
For what it's worth, we've had similar problems here in the states...
The leadership in question is voted in by a much smaller number than what US elections manage. FPTP means not only are some regions completely devoid of the winning party, but have never voted for them as a local majority in decades, if ever. The secondary and tertiary problem with this situation is that neither do the alternative parties ever really offer anything different, remember before the current Labour gov the Tories were in power for about 14 years, but also that the population never really seems to stick to actual alternatives when "offered" them. So it swaps back between Red or Blue just like in the USA except the differences between the two now seems even less obvious than when Blair rewrote the playbook.
I'm a dual citizen, half English and half American, and shuttled between London/Oxford and Manhattan for most of my life. I lived in Paris for five years and in Budapest for two years.
America has its problems, France has its problems, Hungary has its problems, but Muslim grooming gangs are NOT one of them.
Muslim grooming gangs are, as far I can tell, PURELY a British (mainly English) problem. Even the other Islamised countries in Europe don't have this problem.
I cannot explain this difference but the difference is STARK. It's only Britain, and within that, only ENGLAND.
yeah, I should have been more clear. I mean similar in the sense of politicians turning a blind eye to immigrant and refugee-related crime for fear of being branded racist.
that being said, you raise an interesting point, why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem? additionally, why is it most of the perpetrators are pakistani muslims? is it a leftover grudge from the imperial days? is it the sheer concentration of pakistanis in England? is there some unique factor to england that doesn't exist in the rest of the world?
Understanding the why would go a long way to addressing the issue, though even then you have to have leaders with spines...
"Why is the grooming gang issue a uniquely British/English problem?"
I do not know, but I strongly suspect that the British class system has something (I cannot yet identify what) to do with it. Then-PM Gordon Brown was able to send around a "circular" to all plod around the country announcing, basically, that since these underage girls were essentially white trash, they ought to be considered as consenting and no police ought to get involved.
France had a touch of it, and arrested the rapists involved- deterrent achieved. Same for the Netherlands, and same for Belgium.
Only Britain was instructed not to touch these rapists - this after reports of a 12 yr old getting her tongue being nailed to a table as she was being mass-raped, and an 11 yr old being raped with a broken bottle, destroying her internal organs. She spent six months in hospital and can never have children. Knowing all that, Gordon Brown sent all police in Britain a stand down notice.
I hope the truly evil people who read these reports and STILL commanded that police universally stand down because they were "slags" (at 11 yrs old- hardly likely) burn in hell, but before they do, I want to see them tried and imprisoned.
There are posts from years ago on this topic.
https://communities.win/search?query=grooming%20gangs&community=TheDonald&sort=new&page=5
Elon pushes it and everyone acts like they've never heard of this before.
I joined Twitter in 2010 specifically to follow Tommy Robinson. Kicked off around 6 or 7 times by gangs of Islamists and Leftists (the group whose radar I was on all had the word "fluffy" in their user names, and would regularly tell me stuff such as they would behead my mother and fuck her throat, etc).
Believe me, I know this has been a topic of long term discussion. But it is REALLY something to see it under such a bright spotlight and to be able to speak freely on the subject on X. It's still completely incredible to me and I fervently believe that this opportunity should not be wasted.
"Group." Sounds like one dude with sockpuppets.
No, one of them was convicted for preparing a terror attack. I'd have to go into my old computers to remember his name - he was - and I am not remotely joking - a ginger convert.
Edited to add: There seemed to have been at least 100-200 of them, all UK Jihadis who posted death threats to him daily and chatted casually to each other about joining ISIS. Twitter never censored any of them. They found me because I posted supportingly of TR. The pile-on REALLY got going after the beheading of Lee Rigby.
Interestingly, many of them were hysterically screeching women. They were, as a group, the most disgusting I have ever encountered. The things they said were so viscerally horrific and so casually graphic. Zero respect for life, and so arrogant and entitled. I genuinely hated them.
God Bless You.
I never say that. Especially on the internet. Especially with my post history. But dammit, you’re doing God’s Work.
I don't know if that was meant for me, but thank you - God bless you too.
It might just be my pessimistic bias, but I believe the criminal British political class will take this as an opportunity to censor Twitter.
They'll certainly do their worst, but I have hope - this time - that they might fail.
Ive probably told at least a dozen people irl over the years and bring it up every time a brit talks shit online
First 1984. Now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ones_Who_Walk_Away_from_Omelas
England's really speedrunning the dystopian literature.
Well, almost the same. Except that it's a dystopia and that its wretchedness depends on the perpetual misery of hundreds of thousands of children.
The story itself is only a handful of pages, just go read it rather than looking at the wikifag summary.
wikifag
encyclopediadramatica has many more accurate and biting names for that hugbox (warning, not safe for work, barely safe for life It's ED, though, so what do you expect, lol).
I remember it, I just quoted it for context. I assure you that I'm not fond of Wikifag.
Upvote for "wikifag" which after years on /Pol/ I've never seen before.
Yeah. Unfortunately every instance I found was a PDF. So given the choice between linking a binary here, linking to some random's literature blog, or linking to wikipedia, I picked the latter.
1984 was an instruction manual.
Well yeah. Men are women. Freedom of speech is fascism.
The Sacrificial Goat comes to mind (or is it lamb?)
It’s wild to see liberals defending the r*pe of innocent children, and its subsequent cover-up in the UK just because Elon Musk is talking about it.
How is this a partisan issue. We are in deep trouble as a society if we cannot agree that children being raped as spoils of failed immigration war is bad.
Hate to break it to you, but we are indeed in deep trouble as a society. Not if. Are.
Yes.
And?
Public - will the Government do something to end grooming gangs for good and bring justice for the victims?
BBC this morning - will the Government extradite and imprison Elon Musk for criticising the Government regarding grooming gangs on X?
The UK government will do nothing, and Elon knows that, so he's set a fire under them to prompt them to ban X and set in motion so-called Human Rights articles by which he can destroy them.
But of course.
I hope this is slight justice for those girls.
Any generation before 1918 would would have protected those girls the proper way.
It's good that the scandals have come under renewed scrutiny, whatever the motivation behind it is.
So what was the straw that broke the camels back and allowed this to be "public"? Was it all Tommy Robinson? or was it the sentencing statements that the judge made being released?
It seems it was GBN's Charlie Peters' reporting of the judge's detailed recounting of some of the more horrific aspects of the Oxford rape gang (one of the largest in the country). Peters was apparently the only reporter in the courtroom and the details he recorded were insanely grisly.
Peters published on X (and GBN), Elon took notice, and the rest is, as they say, history.
Any 'British' trying to explain this is excusing his own oppressor. They don't actually have to do that. You can be critical of the crimes of your government.
This is a country that now jails critics of the Government, important figures and celebrities for years in prison. The BBC this morning called for the extradition, trial and jailing of Elon Musk for his criticism of the Government.
It's only a matter of time before the repealed laws on sedition return.
The current UK government is functionally indistinguishable from a Muslim theocracy. The invasion and occupation is complete. If brits ever do rise up, they will be reconquering a lost nation.
Well said.
Well, when you look at British women...
(couldn't resist, too good to pass up)
This is probably in reference to David Cameron, all things considered.
playful jab on my part, unless you mean the twitter post itself
Lots of beautiful women in Britain. You won't see them in the Daily Mail, but have a wander round the shires and you will be floored by the beauty - and I don't just mean the rolling hills...
yeah, I'm yanking your chain, lol.
trust me, we have our share of porkers here in the states...
I know. God bless and a very Happy New Year!