There is a 100% chance that the Left will claim "concentration camps" when Trump starts allowing local police to arrest illegals.
As you said, we need to treat Leftist cities like Springfield, OH. Not this namby-pamby Greg Abbot & Ron DeSantis bus tour crap where 40 Guatemalans got off a bus, and were told to leave by the National Guard.
For example, the population of Providence, RI is around 190,000 people. To prevent the abuse of CBP agents in Immigration "concentration camps", then we need to slam fuck 64,000 criminal migrants into the city, to push it up to a population of 254,000.
If that stretches the city's capacity to operate, then we have to take the same approach as they did with us and say, "Fuck you, kill yourself you racist faggot. Why don't you just fucking die? Learn to speak <insert alien tongue here>"
Now this would make the city of Providence minority white at that point, but, you know, I seem to recall being told: "Shut the fuck up and kill yourself mayo monkey. Demographic replacement isn't happening, but it is, and it's reparations, and it's a good thing." is what they told me; so what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it's really that big of a problem for them, we can probably find 64,000 illegal Albanian migrants and it would do the same thing. That way it stays majority white and if they have a problem we'll just tell them to use their White Privilege. Anyways, they should be glad they're not Sacramento who's population just increased by 174,000, or Detroit who just got 888,000.
Now, because we're better than them, we'll actually deport the criminal migrants eventually, but we've got to clean our house first.
The usual stuff. Providence is a post-industrial New England hellscape (like a bigger version of the one I grew up in), so the old population is gone, but it probably still seems like paradise for people coming from the third world.
It’s basically Guatemala City with shitty weather and a random Ivy League school
"Trump is going to holocaust the immigrants if he wins, we need people to volunteer to underground railroad them to safety! Will you lend your attic and basement to a dozen strangers who don't speak a lick of English?"
That's the only slightly funny thing coming out of the migrant shit in Germany.
We basically have a system called "Bürgschaft" (vouching) where someone guarantees that another person can pay their cost. It's usually used for students moving out the first time and parents vouching for them, so the landlord knows he can safely rent to someone without guaranteed income (the kid).
Well some people found it a really good idea to vouch for Syrians in 2013, so they could come faster to us via flights etc. and had guarantees for a place to stay. They thought that as soon as they were part of the German social system the general public had to pay for the migrants. They then were shocked when the state wanted the money back from that the migrants got from the state. Found this story were a guy vouched for 37 family members and then is surprised that he has to pay over 100k for them.
They all want to virtue signal and show what good humans they are. But they never want to do something themseles. It's always the general public which should pay for their virtue signalling.
Yep, MAJORITY of the issues in the West are because the 'so long as it doesn't affect me, I don't care' crowd are allowed the same voting rights as the rest of us.
I'm seriously thinking Starship Troopers has the best voting system as it weeds these parasites out.
'Service Guarantees Citizenship' and 'only citizens can vote' is a good system, but I think there's some other components that should be considered.
I understand why some people on the populist Left want direct, but this is one of the reasons I want stratified voting. The only things that you should vote on are the things directly within your community and the government you create to govern you. From there, those local government members are the only people that vote on state issues. Those state governments then vote on Federal issues. Etc.
The only people voting on a thing, should be the people effected by the thing. Thus, you only vote one step up in the stratification. The government's jurisdiction should be only one step down. The government can only really regulate the relationships of the people that put it in power.
A direct vote on something like boarders may be too broad. The only exception to this in my mind would be "votes of no confidence". If you pissed X number of raw people off at the bottom rung, then you must have fucked something up royally, and you should get removed.
The issue with this is who controls the categorization. If something can be taken away by the government it will be eventually abused against you. Just as even starship troopers pointed out, when the military expanded significantly, the risk to earn citizenship decreased significantly so many more people signed up without having to “earn it”. When the government expands enough they will demand to be a part of everything while allowing you to nothing.
The only people voting on a thing, should be the people effected by the thing.
Generally agreed, unless they're dependent on the government. The incentives created by letting people on welfare vote to give themselves more money should be avoided.
There was a reason originally only property owners had franchise in America.
If you're not paying into a system, you're not incentivized to ensure it's well run. Would someone on welfare, who pays no taxes, give a shit if they taxed everyone else 90% of their income and wasted all but a few dollars of it as long as their check remained the same?
Sure, they have a vested interest in ensuring the system paying their welfare doesn't collapse, but I honestly don't think people in that situation are farsighted enough to vote for responsible spending or, God forbid, a reduction in their benefits in order to sustain the system long-term.
If they're dependent on anyone else, they shouldn't get the right to vote. This is what Adams and Blackstone were pointing out with land requirements. If you don't own your own home and your own business, you are dependent on someone else, and you are voting in their best interests. Not yours. If they are dependent on the government, they don't get to vote. The government shouldn't vote for itself. In fact, I think there's an argument to ban government officials from participating in elections.
Just FYI, this stratification idea is how Soviet "democracy" worked. You would elect members to your local soviet, who would elect members of the regional soviet, and so on up to the Supreme Soviet.
They also had no protections of liberty or property, unlimited jurisdiction, and they sure didn't have the "no confidence" vote that I specified.
I get what you are saying, but I don't think the system I'm suggesting would have the same kinds of holes in it that the Soviet system intentionally created.
For example, I'm saying that the top level can't make laws for the lowest level. At all. The top level can only go one step down. They can only regulate relations to their immediate subordinates.
Your objections to the left's policies are their targets, not their fundamental principles. Actual libertarians are far more in favor of restricting government than you. "Left libertarians" are as much of a moronic misunderstanding of actual principles as "right wing socialists". They're fakes. Like you.
Says the faggot from the fed-op board that actively advocates for cultural marxist racial collectivism.
You project like a leftist.
You also tried to derive authority from claiming the founders as your ancestors, which is laughable. Because your positions align with the british loyalists, not Americans.
You don't even know the origins of this place if you think your account age means shit you mongoloid faggot. And this has been explained to you before - but like any good fed bitch you act like your own favorite faggot Hitler's description of arguing with a jew - anything you are told is magically forgotten the next day and you pretend victory.
Begone back to your containment board.
I've been in this movement since it existed. You OBVIOUSLY haven't and you make it clear continuously.
And you keep changing your name like a coward. You don't stand by your words, you don't argue in good faith, and you make claims about people that are straight up libel.
I am not and have never been a socialist. I have even voted Libertarian in the past (Ron Paul) for all the good it did. I am a white supremist. Whites are the inventors of everything, the explorers of everything, the discoverers of everything, the conquerors of everything. I have walked where no human has ever walked before. I have expanded the sum total of human knowledge. I have preserved a small part of history.
You are not part of that. The only thing you have ever done is shoot your precious brown people for the totalitarian government you claim to hate. You are scum eroding the culture and strength of whites. You are the gatekeeper that allows the invaders in. You are the traitor, and like you said yesterday:
You keep attacking any white who wants to live among their own tribe. You would enforce diversity for your god equality. You do not have a single belief that is right wing or conservative. You do not believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, you do not believe that a nation is a tribe, you do not believe that men are inherently unequal.
On the other hand, you do believe that "as long as it's legal" is the greatest good, whether that be replacement immigration, CP, drugs, rape, whatever. As long as it isn't against your love of "the law" it's fine.
So far, the insults here are 'gay race communist' and 'moronic', and 'fake'. This really isn't enough for action on it's own.
It seems like you all are just normally arguing. Is this something that actually requires my intervention u/CatoTheElder ? Is this some sort of actual site-wide harassment, or is this just arguing with opposing factions?
He regularly comments on my posts with this shit. It is libel at this point.
Also what he is doing is far worse than what I was going to do to Gazerbeam, as hellsdemon00 is lying about me, when all I was going to do to Gazerbeam is post his own words from an archive.
Okay, well, I can't do anything about lying outside of per se defamation. so if he calls you a pedophile or something I can respond to that. I still wouldn't suggest reposting the same thing over and over in replies everywhere he goes because that does meet the definition of harassment.
All I see from him are standard insults, and assessments about your character and intentions. Even if untrue, those aren't really actionable. The best I can do is require both of you to not reply to each other's posts or comments if that is what you would prefer.
Amazing you call me libelous when I point out that you are a racial collectivist goon, and you are the one making absolutely baseless claims about me just because I don't tolerate your mongoloid leftist shilling.
You say dumb shit. I call you out. You sperg fit, and then call for a mod? Lmao. The same mod you hate for likiting how much "reeee jooos" you conpro fags can spam.
Stay in your fed op containment board, fag. This place is for actual right wing. E.g. people that share the same ideologies and principles, not just skin color. People that actually push for beneficial solutions, not trying to slide, derail and divide right wing efforts with useless leftist bullshit.
Nice try, you crying bitch. Go hang out with the clintons, since they're so much more tolerable to you than real American nationalists. You can't stop people from recognizing what you're trying to do.
I unironically would do exactly this.
Leftoids don't want us building camps for all the illegals while we get deportations rolling? Cool, they live in your house now, faggots.
There is a 100% chance that the Left will claim "concentration camps" when Trump starts allowing local police to arrest illegals.
As you said, we need to treat Leftist cities like Springfield, OH. Not this namby-pamby Greg Abbot & Ron DeSantis bus tour crap where 40 Guatemalans got off a bus, and were told to leave by the National Guard.
For example, the population of Providence, RI is around 190,000 people. To prevent the abuse of CBP agents in Immigration "concentration camps", then we need to slam fuck 64,000 criminal migrants into the city, to push it up to a population of 254,000.
If that stretches the city's capacity to operate, then we have to take the same approach as they did with us and say, "Fuck you, kill yourself you racist faggot. Why don't you just fucking die? Learn to speak <insert alien tongue here>"
Now this would make the city of Providence minority white at that point, but, you know, I seem to recall being told: "Shut the fuck up and kill yourself mayo monkey. Demographic replacement isn't happening, but it is, and it's reparations, and it's a good thing." is what they told me; so what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it's really that big of a problem for them, we can probably find 64,000 illegal Albanian migrants and it would do the same thing. That way it stays majority white and if they have a problem we'll just tell them to use their White Privilege. Anyways, they should be glad they're not Sacramento who's population just increased by 174,000, or Detroit who just got 888,000.
Now, because we're better than them, we'll actually deport the criminal migrants eventually, but we've got to clean our house first.
I got news for you, buddy
Whoops. I was looking at the 2000 demographics, not the 2020 ones.
Jesus, Why did they import Honduras?
The usual stuff. Providence is a post-industrial New England hellscape (like a bigger version of the one I grew up in), so the old population is gone, but it probably still seems like paradise for people coming from the third world.
It’s basically Guatemala City with shitty weather and a random Ivy League school
Why do the anglos do this to themselves?
All I want to know is where can I volunteer to help round up illegals and clean up my state.
Honestly, reserve police units? Neighborhood watch?
"Trump is going to holocaust the immigrants if he wins, we need people to volunteer to underground railroad them to safety! Will you lend your attic and basement to a dozen strangers who don't speak a lick of English?"
That's the only slightly funny thing coming out of the migrant shit in Germany.
We basically have a system called "Bürgschaft" (vouching) where someone guarantees that another person can pay their cost. It's usually used for students moving out the first time and parents vouching for them, so the landlord knows he can safely rent to someone without guaranteed income (the kid).
Well some people found it a really good idea to vouch for Syrians in 2013, so they could come faster to us via flights etc. and had guarantees for a place to stay. They thought that as soon as they were part of the German social system the general public had to pay for the migrants. They then were shocked when the state wanted the money back from that the migrants got from the state. Found this story were a guy vouched for 37 family members and then is surprised that he has to pay over 100k for them.
They all want to virtue signal and show what good humans they are. But they never want to do something themseles. It's always the general public which should pay for their virtue signalling.
But I don't have the reeeesources!!
Yep, MAJORITY of the issues in the West are because the 'so long as it doesn't affect me, I don't care' crowd are allowed the same voting rights as the rest of us.
I'm seriously thinking Starship Troopers has the best voting system as it weeds these parasites out.
'Service Guarantees Citizenship' and 'only citizens can vote' is a good system, but I think there's some other components that should be considered.
I understand why some people on the populist Left want direct, but this is one of the reasons I want stratified voting. The only things that you should vote on are the things directly within your community and the government you create to govern you. From there, those local government members are the only people that vote on state issues. Those state governments then vote on Federal issues. Etc.
The only people voting on a thing, should be the people effected by the thing. Thus, you only vote one step up in the stratification. The government's jurisdiction should be only one step down. The government can only really regulate the relationships of the people that put it in power.
A direct vote on something like boarders may be too broad. The only exception to this in my mind would be "votes of no confidence". If you pissed X number of raw people off at the bottom rung, then you must have fucked something up royally, and you should get removed.
The issue with this is who controls the categorization. If something can be taken away by the government it will be eventually abused against you. Just as even starship troopers pointed out, when the military expanded significantly, the risk to earn citizenship decreased significantly so many more people signed up without having to “earn it”. When the government expands enough they will demand to be a part of everything while allowing you to nothing.
I don't disagree, I just think static boarders of states, counties, townships v. cities, are already in place and make sense.
Generally agreed, unless they're dependent on the government. The incentives created by letting people on welfare vote to give themselves more money should be avoided.
There was a reason originally only property owners had franchise in America.
If you're not paying into a system, you're not incentivized to ensure it's well run. Would someone on welfare, who pays no taxes, give a shit if they taxed everyone else 90% of their income and wasted all but a few dollars of it as long as their check remained the same?
Sure, they have a vested interest in ensuring the system paying their welfare doesn't collapse, but I honestly don't think people in that situation are farsighted enough to vote for responsible spending or, God forbid, a reduction in their benefits in order to sustain the system long-term.
If they were that far sighted they'd hedge and save and develop alternative Oh I get it.
If they're dependent on anyone else, they shouldn't get the right to vote. This is what Adams and Blackstone were pointing out with land requirements. If you don't own your own home and your own business, you are dependent on someone else, and you are voting in their best interests. Not yours. If they are dependent on the government, they don't get to vote. The government shouldn't vote for itself. In fact, I think there's an argument to ban government officials from participating in elections.
Even better.
Just FYI, this stratification idea is how Soviet "democracy" worked. You would elect members to your local soviet, who would elect members of the regional soviet, and so on up to the Supreme Soviet.
They also had no protections of liberty or property, unlimited jurisdiction, and they sure didn't have the "no confidence" vote that I specified.
I get what you are saying, but I don't think the system I'm suggesting would have the same kinds of holes in it that the Soviet system intentionally created.
For example, I'm saying that the top level can't make laws for the lowest level. At all. The top level can only go one step down. They can only regulate relations to their immediate subordinates.
Those are called libertarians.
Libertine, not Libertarians. We are not the same.
My neighbor being gunned down by a horde of communist illegals effects me.
Says the gay race communist.
Your objections to the left's policies are their targets, not their fundamental principles. Actual libertarians are far more in favor of restricting government than you. "Left libertarians" are as much of a moronic misunderstanding of actual principles as "right wing socialists". They're fakes. Like you.
Oh, the liar is trying to communicate again.
Says the faggot from the fed-op board that actively advocates for cultural marxist racial collectivism.
You project like a leftist.
You also tried to derive authority from claiming the founders as your ancestors, which is laughable. Because your positions align with the british loyalists, not Americans.
vs
I'm from this board, retard, and I've been here longer than you. Every statement you make is a lie. You'd probably explode if told the truth.
You don't even know the origins of this place if you think your account age means shit you mongoloid faggot. And this has been explained to you before - but like any good fed bitch you act like your own favorite faggot Hitler's description of arguing with a jew - anything you are told is magically forgotten the next day and you pretend victory.
Begone back to your containment board.
I've been in this movement since it existed. You OBVIOUSLY haven't and you make it clear continuously.
And you keep changing your name like a coward. You don't stand by your words, you don't argue in good faith, and you make claims about people that are straight up libel.
I am not and have never been a socialist. I have even voted Libertarian in the past (Ron Paul) for all the good it did. I am a white supremist. Whites are the inventors of everything, the explorers of everything, the discoverers of everything, the conquerors of everything. I have walked where no human has ever walked before. I have expanded the sum total of human knowledge. I have preserved a small part of history.
You are not part of that. The only thing you have ever done is shoot your precious brown people for the totalitarian government you claim to hate. You are scum eroding the culture and strength of whites. You are the gatekeeper that allows the invaders in. You are the traitor, and like you said yesterday:
You keep attacking any white who wants to live among their own tribe. You would enforce diversity for your god equality. You do not have a single belief that is right wing or conservative. You do not believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, you do not believe that a nation is a tribe, you do not believe that men are inherently unequal.
On the other hand, you do believe that "as long as it's legal" is the greatest good, whether that be replacement immigration, CP, drugs, rape, whatever. As long as it isn't against your love of "the law" it's fine.
Comment Reported for: Rule 3 - Harassment.
So far, the insults here are 'gay race communist' and 'moronic', and 'fake'. This really isn't enough for action on it's own.
It seems like you all are just normally arguing. Is this something that actually requires my intervention u/CatoTheElder ? Is this some sort of actual site-wide harassment, or is this just arguing with opposing factions?
He regularly comments on my posts with this shit. It is libel at this point.
Also what he is doing is far worse than what I was going to do to Gazerbeam, as hellsdemon00 is lying about me, when all I was going to do to Gazerbeam is post his own words from an archive.
Okay, well, I can't do anything about lying outside of per se defamation. so if he calls you a pedophile or something I can respond to that. I still wouldn't suggest reposting the same thing over and over in replies everywhere he goes because that does meet the definition of harassment.
All I see from him are standard insults, and assessments about your character and intentions. Even if untrue, those aren't really actionable. The best I can do is require both of you to not reply to each other's posts or comments if that is what you would prefer.
Amazing you call me libelous when I point out that you are a racial collectivist goon, and you are the one making absolutely baseless claims about me just because I don't tolerate your mongoloid leftist shilling.
You say dumb shit. I call you out. You sperg fit, and then call for a mod? Lmao. The same mod you hate for likiting how much "reeee jooos" you conpro fags can spam.
Stay in your fed op containment board, fag. This place is for actual right wing. E.g. people that share the same ideologies and principles, not just skin color. People that actually push for beneficial solutions, not trying to slide, derail and divide right wing efforts with useless leftist bullshit.
Nice try, you crying bitch. Go hang out with the clintons, since they're so much more tolerable to you than real American nationalists. You can't stop people from recognizing what you're trying to do.
Eye for an eye.
I point out your own stances. You throw a sperg fit and make baseless claims. We are not the same, goblin.
The fucking name pronunciation thing is so on the nose, they're cultish in their fixation on it.
"He said the name wrong! He doesn't know the scripture! hisssss"
"...Soooo is that a 'yes' to housing the illegals?"
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brilliant troll.
The look of terror on being called out for their hypocrisy on that one pinched face hwyte woman was glorious.