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"without parental consent"? implying that its fine "with parental consent"? (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by ger111 1 year ago by ger111 +51 / -0
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– Assassin47 32 points 1 year ago +32 / -0

Nitpicking. The tweet is not his quote, and he's just giving an off the cuff answer why the Reps are not as nutty as Dems. He's not reading a platform policy.

I wondered why we were picking nits at the 11th hour when we are down to two finalists and there's no do-overs. You are supporting Trump or Harris. You have no other choices. Then I realized it's a groyper account.

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– Kopkot 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

The fact that Trans mutilation is acceptable for anyone, especially children, is because people keep voting for people that endorse this shit.

It's not pragmatism. It's tolerating and encouraging evil. Some lines you can't cross.

If winning means allowing infant sacrifice, child mutilation, your replacement, and other degen behavior that destroys people WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU WON?

You make a deal with the devil and you're going to hell. Regardless of whether you've got a D or an R next to your name.

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– DistilledLife 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Settle the fuck down, newfag. You're perseverating over Trump's word choice.

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– Kopkot 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Words matter. Especially saying you support kids being mutilated and sterilized but with parental consent. But tell me again how I'm reading too much into it lol.

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– BetterNameUnfound 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Okay. Stay out and let Harris win. Lose with dignity.

You're doing the fucking meme. "Welp...at least I still have the Constitution."

Revel in your smug superiority while you let the enemy trample your entire fucking country.

AT LEAST YOU HAVE YOUR PRINCIPLES!!

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– Kopkot 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

You still don't get it. You've already lost. Trump is endorsing these evil policies.

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– BetterNameUnfound 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

With that attitude, yes, you have.

See you in January.

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– Kopkot 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Maybe one day you'll realize salvation isn't had from some NYC property developer who couldn't care less about you.

It's funny how everyone says blacks are stupid for voting dem year after year and getting screwed, meanwhile whites have been voting R the whole time too and have what exactly to show for it? Whats the definition of stupidity again? πŸ€”

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... continue reading thread?
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– Inbredsandwich1 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

There's nothing smug about having a basic sense of morals. The fact that many still see it as a matter of politics and "compromising" to make sure the other side doesn't "win" is why we're still in this mess (especially when the only real solution that will fix things on a general level is the type of thing that would get one banned on the internet). What the user you're replying to has been saying is that the real issue is between right and wrong.

The whole voting for the lesser evil thing in politics is a false dichotomy; they are both sides of the same coin. Yes yes, let us see our political choices: the candidate who approves of the murder of the unborn, or the one who stayed silent on it by delegating it as a state issue, knowing full well that addressing it would have lost him votes. The candidate who approves of genital mutilation, or the candidate who approves of genital mutilation (but only as long as the parents approve!). The candidate who supported the poison jab, or the candidate who supported the poison jab. The side that approves of sexual degeneracy, or the side that approves of sexual degeneracy (I'm always seeing posts and comments approving of Scott Presler and his "orientation" on TheDonald nowadays).

The fact that we need to appease the millions of people that approve of the murder of the unborn and all the other degenerate stuff shows that the root issue at hand clearly isn't a matter of politics. I have no doubt that Trump doesn't agree with all the degeneracy, but is only conceding for the sake of votes. But that's the thing; the country is already lost morally speaking when we have to "compromise" and concede to basic moral issues just to obtain a semblance of power, moral issues that our ancestors would have unhesitatingly gone to war over. And what's worse is that these compromises are done for the mere hope of some future greater good, a greater good mind you that will never be permanently assured. I'm not sure about you, but I don't think I could sacrifice on basic moral issues like this knowing full well that God is going to start asking me questions on this stuff one day.

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– DistilledLife 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I'm glad I don't have as much autism as you do.

It's a sad life not having the perfect candidate to have the perfect words come out of his mouth every time he opens it. If it bothers you so much, don't vote for him.

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– DistilledLife 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Then I realized it's a groyper account

I don't read AF Post, but just one glance at their homepage... yeesh...

If you mean ger, he's gotten better about jewposting and cut it back some, but still can be annoying sometimes...

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– Gizortnik 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

No no, that's the point. To intentionally defeat the dissident right from "the right". Thier job is to suicide bomb populism and only punch right, and they are doing a great job at it.

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– ger111 [S] 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Sorry for holding people to the bare minimum of standards that minors should not be allowed to mutilate their genitals regardless of "parental consent or not". i guess that's too much to ask of people these days.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

It's just a pattern I've noticed. You remember those, right?

Oh, that's right, we're not allowed to notice your patterns.

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– ger111 [S] 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

well i noticed a pattern of you being fine with compromising any right wing value except when it comes to defending your chosen people.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You're literally making shit up.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– Kopkot 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

You people are pathetic. Even 10 years ago center people would have qualms about transing kids.

Now you claim anyone on the right with an issue with that is some sort of nut job.

You deserve the modern republican party. You stand for nothing.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

10 years ago I explicitly said to people that you can't change a person's sex and that 100% of transpeople are, by definition, mentally ill. Which is what I also say today.

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– Kopkot 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Good

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Then take back your "you people" comment.

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– Kopkot 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I will when you stop making excuses for pols that are pro child mutilation.

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– DistilledLife 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I think the path to cartoonish extremism right-ward goes like:

Traditionalists >>| | Theocrats >>| | Groypers >>| | WigNats

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– Gizortnik 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The other two paths are:

  • American/European Intelligence >>| | Patriot Front advocate

  • Qatari Intelligence >>| | "We must defend Palestine from the jews fellow whites. No more brother wars. Pakistani Grooming Gangs are a jewish conspiracy theory."

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– Assassin47 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Yeah the twitter account. ger111 can repost what he likes I'm just calling it out.

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– DistilledLife 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I was just confused since ger and others seem to be sperging out over three words in a set of sentences as much as AFP is.

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– rentfREEEE_since2016 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The new Republican Party is pro gay. Pro immigration. Pro abortion. Pro trans. Pro war with Iran. And anti American.

I legitimately think if we get Trump, everything we’ve worked for to tear down the swamp goes in the toilet.

If Kamala wins. The right will be pissed and may have will to fight tooth and nail for everything they hold dear.

If Trump wins you get restoration of complacently, some possibly horrible and irreversible β€œbi partisan” legislation and another probably even worse candidate after him.

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– SoctaticMethod1 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I mean let's be honest, they HAVE to nitpick because the Dems are the biggest retards in every public appearance they do. Even Biden dunked on Kamala as a 'f you bitch!' move basically outlining she was an integral part of the past 4 years.

So they have to nitpick EVERYTHING Republicans say especially Trump hoping for a gotcha to lean on. Thankfully Lindsey is too busy kissing Israel's ass to pull another 2022 on abortion and this is weak as with it being common sense it's up to parents to decide for their child's health, it's also common sense not to maim and abuse your children.

Unfortunately we know there is a significant amount of parents that WILL abuse their children for fame and money...

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– AntonioOfVenice 22 points 1 year ago +22 / -0

It's not OK for adults either. I know some people are on the "adults should be able to do with their own bodies" tour, and that's true to some extent. This in no way requires doctors to be complicit in what you do.

You're free to hack off your hand, because you are transabled, but you're not free to demand that a doctor do that for you.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

demand? with government insurance? no.

Request and pay for out of pocket? Sure why not.

I see it as those freaks who get insane piercings, facial tattoos, forked tongues, etc. none of it is actually necessary, but if they're going to do it better to have someone who knows how to get it done without killing them.

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– Assassin47 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

insane piercings, facial tattoos, forked tongues

Ban those too. If people kill themselves trying to mutilate their own bodies it may deter others.

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– Kaarous 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Not just that, but criminalize crossdressing with the intention to deceive others. Any non comedic attempt even.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

might as well ban video games and alcohol too. none of those have any benefit to society afterall and people who indulge in them waste their lives. Ban skateboards and motorcycles because they are so dangerous. while we're at it, might as well ban drivable cars since we have self-driving car technology. car crashes are one of the leading causes of death in the United States as after all! /s

I don't want to be in the business of dictating what people can and can't do with their bodies. everything is relative and what is egregious to some is sensible to others. So long as they don't hurt anyone else, there's no reason to ban it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

Video games and alcohol are good in small doses. Mutilation in small doses is also bad. Cars have huge advantages that grossly outweigh car crashes. Mutilation has no advantages.

Also, what people do to their bodies doesn't stay private. Those mutilated freaks will then demand access to women's spaces.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

so don't give them access. that would fall under "harming others" afterall.

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Clearly, that doesn't work. You created an interest group fighting for the 'rights' of these perverts. Just like it doesn't work to let people be obese, because due to their sheer size and numbers, they will then try to get special privileges on that basis.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

this is the case for pretty much any subset of a larger population, especially when marxist theory runs rampant in the society. it's all in the name of the blacks, the native americans, the gays, the refugees, the women. if it's not the trannies, the marxists will find some other subset to rally behind for political points.

I argue that if you don't play Marxist games, you don't win Marxist prizes. if you stamp out the marxist, then everyone's rights are the same as everyone else's, and everyone's rights end where the others begin.

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– Assassin47 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Not sure what your point is now. We weren't talking about what people can do with their bodies. Your argument was why we should allow licensed healthcare professionals to mutilate (harm) others. If you're saying that a store selling someone liquor and a doctor cutting someone's tongue or junk off are basically the same thing, we'll have to agree to disagree.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Request and pay for out of pocket? Sure why not.

First, do no harm.

I would not even have an objection to this specifically if you could pay a doctor to amputate your arm without any cause, though I find that undesirable, but my main issue is that this form of mutilation has special status.

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– ThreeLights 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It’s the ultimate modern question. Can the average person reliably dictate how their body is treated or does a group consensus determine it? If we were able to debate it in real life without someone faking a fire, we could have some great discussions with it.

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– deleted 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0
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– Gizortnik 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Trump deals with and extremely hostile interview that is supposed to be entirely about economics, and is dragged into social commentary

OP: "How can I make this a weapon to support the Democratic party? I know my mommy commie kamalli needs the support of more men according to the latest email. What can I do to help her?"

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– HyperboreanDNA 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Genital mutilation should be illegal except for religious exemptions. Jewish people should be allowed to circumcise their children's penises but they shouldn't be allowed to circumcise non-Jewish penises on the grounds of "better medical outcomes", which is a bullshit reason for mutilation.

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– ger111 [S] 21 points 1 year ago +21 / -0

except for religious exemptions

lol no . It should be illegal period. And if it can chase foreigners away who do circumsize (jews and muslims) then that would be a good thing

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– HyperboreanDNA 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It can be useful in identifying groups of people hiding among other groups if the need ever arises, that's why I'm not against certain groups practicing it on themselves only.

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– theaustrianpainter 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

Now think about why they bamboozled Christians into doing it too.

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– Kopkot 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

Religious exemptions for genital mutilation? Fucking no. This acceptance of degenerate cultures just because they exist is a fallacy. Not all cultures, religions, or practices are equal. Fuck mutilating people just become some foreign rat culture endorses it. If jews wanna cut up dicks and suck em they can do it in Israel. Why should I tolerate that in my land and among my people. Gtfo

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– HyperboreanDNA 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Except here you are in your land and you're tolerating it. Eventually, you'll have to come to terms with the fact you live in occupied territory with a plethora of sellouts who don't care about you so you need to work within the system and adapt. Selling the idea of being against genital mutilation but allowing religious exemptions is something that might work and it would be a win if we got that. It's much better than the status quo. If you outright ban if then say jews will have to leave, you aren't likely to get very much traction.

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– Kopkot 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I prefer to actually have principles instead of carving out excuses for mutilation of children's genitals. We aren't talking about jaywalking.

If the system is fucked anyway why pander to them? We all die anyway. I'd prefer to have some honor while I'm still here.

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– HyperboreanDNA 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You have no honor while you are here and you pay taxes which they use to murder children. You're just deluding yourself into believing you have any honor.

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– Kopkot 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Okay πŸ‘

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– HyperboreanDNA 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Of Jewish babies? Yes, of course. I support abortions of Jewish babies and even after birth abortions of Jewish babies. Why would I care what happens to Jewish children?

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– HyperboreanDNA 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I guess you made a new account for it. You'll get banned for that post on here.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

this will be unpopular here, but there is a very very small subset of people where HRT and puberty blockers (chemical castration) are necessary. these would be the people who are in actual mental distress that is so severe that they are prone to self-harm. these treatments are not a cure, but rather a cope so that they don't kill themselves or fall into (further) insanity.

unfortunately gender dysphoria has been so ridiculously overdiagnosed these people get caught up in the culture war. of all the kids diagnosed with gender dysphoria, or otherwise recommended """gender affirming""" care, I would be willing to bet less than 1% of them are actually people who need that kind of treatment, and the rest are simply victims of rapid onset gender dysphoria as a result of social pressure and grooming from school teachers. not only do these people not need these treatments, but the treatments are actively harmful to them.

I 100% think there is no reason to use these treatments on prepubescent or pubescent minors, however I do believe the case could be made for an older teenager to receive these treatments if their mental illness is that severe. this would indeed be something that is ultimately up to the parents with the recommendation of an actual responsible doctor.

It's a shame that all the responsible doctors are being pushed out of the industry.

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– RoulerBleu 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

No.

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– AntonioOfVenice 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

First of all, I like that you voice unpopular views, especially as it's not "media orthodoxy" either, but your own unique point of view.

But what makes you think that this is necessary for anyone? If people have 'mental distress that is so distress that they will self-harm', that is a mental issue. If you have a mental issue that tells you that your arm should not be there, the solution is not to chop off your arm, but to cure that.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Indeed curing the mental issue is and always should be the first priority. For the vast majority, this will work and the patient will go on to live a healthy life.

the subset I'm talking about is the minority that cannot be cured. I cannot stress enough how tiny this population is, as they are a small subset of the already small subset of people that suffer gender dysphoria. despite how rare these people are, they do exist.

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– Kopkot 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

That's just a bunch of bullshit to allow the camels nose under the tent.

You've accepted their lies.

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– Assassin47 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Based Captain Kirk said it best.

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– WaceRawrNaowUwU 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

That's the opposite of the appropriate treatment. You use exposure therapy for mental illnesses with this type of pathology. Any encouragement of their intrusive thoughts makes them worse. You want to repeatedly reinforce that they're their biological gender and always will be, that if they have no womb or ovaries, they're a man.

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– DistilledLife 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You're dealing with people here that are perfectly fine with the "No responsibility. No agency. No rights." trap that debate over this topic eventually leads to. I wouldn't bother discussing it too deeply.

The average human doesn't want to deal with the fact that the human mind isn't perfect and can have its faults. They don't care that the culture war has taken genuine disorders and contorted them to an agenda either.

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