Yeah this is vtuber related but this is also leads into discussion of how bad YouTube's strike system is and how it's being abused by malicious actors.
This probably began with her clip channel, a channel just dedicated to making clips out of her stream, being struck down out of nowhere. She herself said on stream she won't fight it conventionally because she would have to give her address as part of the counter claim so she's getting Vshojo her agency to help get it back.
Fast foward to a few hours ago, as she's still hosting a subathon on Twitch, her entire MAIN Youtube channel gets terminated and Vshojo lawyers are now getting involved.
I only have two explanations on this:
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There's a malicious actor within YouTube targeting vtubers for some reason (a lot have been getting random bans for a while) and decided to ban her channel on a Friday so it wouldn't be resolved till Monday (similar to what Sony did with Helldivers 2 PSN requirement)
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A malicious actor REALLY wants to dox Ironmouse and is trying to use YouTube's copyright system to get it in the counter claim.
The reason she's avoiding giving her address is she has fucking Common variable immunodeficiency (CVID) meaning she can't simply leave ger home if some freak learns her address and stalks her plus she lives with her now getting elderly parents. But this will probably blow up more since she's THE biggest vtuber streamer (nearly the biggest female streamer) in the world so already the pressure is building against Youtube for this.
Maybe this'll go to a court case where Youtube is forced to defend banning a streamer with CVID with no strikes or maybe on Monday her channels get restored and someone is secretly fired, either way this is probably the biggest example of the war on vtubers.
Edit: adding this as a note on the original than a new post, as of 23/09/2024 both her main and VOD channels are back, seems like the banning of her main on Friday WAS like Sony and Helldivers 2 and they immediately returned all her channels back on Monday. Doubt the people responsible will be punished though.
YouTube really needs to fix their moderation system. Seems like you can't go a day without some story of it being abused.
You're assuming that their moderation system is broken and not working as intended.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
Let extremists on all sides mass report to get automated bans, then only 'fix the mistake' with human intervention for lefty degenerates.
The only people who can afford to be terminally online nowadays are brain (and crotch) rotted troons fully supported by the state. The glory days of /b/ raids are long in the past.
I doubt they will till either government gets involved or they lose a court case that opens them up to MASSIVE liability if they keep the status quo.
The current system benefits them too much in getting rid of 'dangerous voices'
If it gets to the point someone does have to step in it will likely be far too late for YouTube to survive. This could end up like Perfect Blue or an actual death and with a high profile enough victim it would [rightfully] sink them.
They won't accept moderating less. In order the pay as few humans as possible for moderation, they use automated systems based on numbers or reports.
Youtube also has several flags for no-no words that trigger an automatic suspension on the specific content flagged, for manual authorization.
They also have ''danger'' words that trigger automatic banners leading to government propaganda.
Copyright claim? Bam. Automatic demonetized video.
It was a false claim, or obvious Fair Use? Good luck getting through YT to challenge the claim.
You have to prove you did nothing wrong rather than the accuser proving you did something wrong.
As of now, Youtube has no incentive to stop acting like that. Either they lose a precedent-setting court case in the USA ( unlikely when it comes to copyrights, possible when it comes to other suspensions based on reports ).
Youtube also has baked-in double-standarts, where the ''Authoritative Sources'' such as mainstream media channels being allowed to publish things that will get you suspended if you do. Such as video evidence of a violent attack.
You might potentially get away with it if you ''Fair Use'' your way in by posting a snipet of a Mainstream Media video, making sure the Mainstream Media is the only one able to break certain stories, and frame them a certain way.
Because ''safety and inclusion'', of course. Three-Letter-Agencies sure had their say in that.
What do you mean for manual authorization?
It means they are insta-blocked until a human can watch it and approve it.
Oh, yeah, do they document what you can't say now, or is this still word of mouth?
I don’t know if there is an official list of no no words. I would be pretty surprised if there was, as I'm sure a bunch of them are related to tipping the scales for Democrats.
Working as intended. Service the narrative and (try) to make money while doing it.
Not surprised, vtubers sometimes attract these weird autists who are one-step away from being stalkers/serial-killers.
In her case, I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with her friendship with Connor making some guy feel cucked or something.
Unfortunately I can see that but outside both of their fanbases, their fanbases seem to ship them the most and are happy them being together so this is probably a nutcase who admires her model and voice but never watches her content if it is a weird stalker.
Yeah, fair point. There's a lot of jealous tranny indie """vtubers""" who despise the ones that people actually like.
I forget, is she one of the based ones or one of the prog scum? Quite a few of them are world class tools and several are just troons. If I recall she's actually female, but I can't remember if she's cool or not.
She's more just an entertainer so more normal (which is far right according to the troons)
She'll stream with Heavenly Farther a lot like most of Vshojo so that already puts them more on the based side since you can't afford to be an offence junkie near badger's crew.
Plus she can say shit like this that makes me think she isn't that pc lol.
True, Badger and his guys are fairly well not PC. That said I've heard Heavenly has streamed with Zen, who is almost definitely a troon. Hence my concern.
But that clip does seem to tell the tale lol, good point.
I have my doubts Zen's a troon, I just think she's a woman who is either got some issues over body (either physical or psychological) so never shows herself or actually has a family and smartly keeps it seperate from her streaming life.
Why? Because troons are usually desperate for attention so you'd get SOME kind of reveal even just a body pic by now and there's been none from Zen. That and she's ditzy enough at times that I believe Zen's a woman as only they can achieve that level of ditziness lol
I dunno about that. Such a heavy voice changer definitely casts suspicion.
A lot of them don't show their irl faces, either from shyness in a couple of them, or like Squ they're just ugly(at least she can cook). Very few go to such lengths of hiding their real voice though.
But like you said, the kind of people who hang out with the "human rights are cringe" crowd get a little more benefit of the doubt I suppose.
It's not a voice changer at the Zen point. It's speech-to-text, then garden variety text-to-speech. Most voice changers keep the original audio waves, there's no way to reverse-engineer those from the way Zen does it. 0% original voice.
That's about as sus though, imo.
Troon.
So what am I watching here? I'm not sure I've ever felt so old, lol. I don't understand this video.
Melody is also an ADULT vtuber streamer so does stuff like only fans with her model.
She joins into this group stream after one of her adult streams and Ironmouse, high as fuck off her meds so has no filter, teases her by calling her adult streams 'yoga'
Ahhh, ok, that helps explain it.
There are vtuber Only Fans??
Yeah there's vtubers that do onlyfans, get all the moaning and dirty talking but a virtual avatar. There's two pluses to do that:
Consistently good looking model so you don't see the 'porn fatigue' that happens with real women
They don't fully disappoint their dads since there's no naked photos of them online, only a naked anime girl.
It's been hitting my Twitter feed because I follow a couple of vTubers (not knowing they are vtubers until recently) are posting about vtuber bans on Youtube and Twitch. I don't think it's a rogue employ if it's happening at both companies. I think it's a group effort with tranny vtubers sending them info. Trying to do a hostile takeover of that industry.
That'll be like another 4chan vs Tumblr war, only 4chan has normie support since A LOT of these non troon vtubers have normie support nowadays, look how much Kirsche has been on other livestreams nowadays.
The time for takeover is too past as the company that WOULD'VE supported their plan, Nijisanji has had a 50% market decrease and the main company, Hololive, is more normie or apolitical. They lost the opportunity.
Idk man. Didn't she lie about not having a daughter and exagerated her condition for pitybucks?
You must be mistaking her for someone else, there's been nothing about any children and considering her close links with the IDF, this is too complex after more than 5 years to be a con.
>he doesn't know
I am a full-time student and single parent. Despite living with a chronic illness I try to live life to the fullest for both myself and my child.
https://imgur.com/j2OC2UX
https://archive.is/20220506191015/https://anonfiles.com/R3Fe2eMbxa/2680021-8d2377689adf835effc9f0a6562cf77c_mp4
Even if her daughter is something she made up she lied about having her for pitybucks. So, I don't exactly believe her claims about YouTube. She is not bedridden and even (used to) go(es) on trips with Connor
Your first bit of evidence I read through completely was her explaining she was in an abusive relationship for 7 years before getting CVID
You second was a screenshot on what might be twitter dated 2011 saying she has a daughter. Which was clearly fake since it had Vshojo on the name and they've been active only since 2020 and she's only been active as Ironmouse since 2017 according to wiki
You're third evidence was something downloadable so ain't bothering with that.
Given how Connor has the moiker '93%' because that was the ratio of his female audience when he started and one of the originals of that fanbase is a mod of his and a vtuber, if this was true how many people kept this secret? We are applying CIA level conspiracies to a VTUBER...
Idk man, I just post what I have
https://archive.is/yS7wY
It was an interview where she talks about her abusive ex and her daughter. Don't have a local copy tho
Like how people only knew Mikeneko and Mafumafu were dating because one of them went to a dramatuber? They kept it secret for years
I don't have anything against irounmouse but I take everything she says with a pinch of salt
There is taking things with a pinch of salt like the nux situation but this just seems to be too much.
Eh, my point is that she lied either way. Either she has a daughter and hides for pitypoints or she faked having a daughter for pitypoints.
As for why this didn't blew up. Well, it's Vshoujo, Froot cheats on her husband and you barely hear about it. Compared to it, it's not as egregious
Edit: I didn't say she doesn't have CVID, I said she may play it up. I've gotten conflicting info, some say she had a normal life until the cvid hit, others say only recently she has gotten better
Er about the Froot thing, I got linked this
So using her as a benchmark to show Vshojo has bad actors might not hold much water..
What is an archive?, and how does twitter operate if the image is from 2021?
You're telling me, right now today, with the amount of autists on the internet obsessed about vtubers, that this was on her account in 2019 let alone 2021 and not ONE of them blew this up?
We have people blowing up an ex husband that they cheated on for one of them and Amber Heard levels of crazy for another. That's what make this unbelievable since unlike a MrBeast scandal, the evidence provided was all publicly online and apparently NO ONE even drama hunters have brought it up despite the views it would give them.
I point that there is an archive, ask how twitter would work with archiving it. You proceed to counterattack instead of answering query. So the validity of the tweets are now due to not being VSHOJO but something else? So the hive mind is everwatching and ever viligant? Even when you yourself do not know it all? There is plenty of stuff the autist will miss, they are efficient for the tools given but not perfect. And you need the right amount of them to become obsessive in that topic.
Regarding drama hunters, they need it served most of time, by others, and if none want to dig and or getting the intel is hard, then they will stop.
Running a conspiracy or a con does usually involve multiple people, all which will gain more on being in than out, this normal and does not require you to get CIA level of ops, You can also just ensure that others have juicer targets to keep the outsider happier.
I think we mainly hear about the cons that fail but not the ones that function and mange to end as they are supposed with mark being mollified and appeased at the end.
I don't know as I don't use twitter, but if it's a screenshot then it loses validity due to the Vshojo header.
As I said we're talking about a multilevel conspiracy over a vtuber and that she isn't sick and has a child. Not a pedophilia trafficking ring like others, that she lied about being sick.
These kind of conspiracies to this level needs a 'buy in' where you are keeping something so dangerous secret that you are at risk from leaking it. This ain't it so us continuing to say that all these people are in cahoots to keep this secret, seems dumb.
Archive link from what u/RondoOBlongo posted:
https://archive.is/yS7wY
I don't think there's any way to trick archive.is? The archive was made in 2021, and twitter.com shows the current user string, regardless of what was on the original tweet.
I've got no dog in this fight, but the tweet archive seems legit.
Trust but verify? Seems you argue it cannot be done, thus I only see this as drama.
Every vtuber post is exclusively drama.
I mean you can search for her channel right now and get a 404 response
And on the subathon she's still on, there was a pinned message from Vshojo that they're aware of the YouTube termination and dealing with it not to mention Ironmouse addressed it herself. It ain't looking like a 'she's duping us' situation and more there's malicious actors abusing the system.
I was more referring to the disease
At this point I'm inclined to believe her as she's mentioned it since 2020 when she started (think she started before that actually), involved with the IDF (not the Israeli version) and you can sometimes hear medical machines in the background of some streams.
But the biggest evidence for me is her streaming 'zooted' after taking her meds, illegal drugs got NOTHING on how much prescribed drugs can fuck you up!
There's also a long form interview she did as part of a IDF series with people suffering from various illnesses.
Not sure how that it was part of the start of the con would improve validity? That seems to be a logical error.
Length of maintaining a declaration does improve validity. More time to let something slip or forget to upkeep a lie. 5 years of streaming, including long segments of continuous always-online streams where she would actually sleep on-stream, it is hard to maintain "character" when you're tired, but even moreso when you suddenly wake up.
Fair enough, I will retract my words in regards to that, Validity is not the correct term.
She sounds black so i just LOL at this.
She's a latina iirc.
Lots of black latino slaves back in the day, and I have a knack for hearing when someone is black.