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Pavel Durov of Telegram arrested in France for refusing to censor content. (web.archive.org)
posted 1 year ago by Slav4U 1 year ago by Slav4U +109 / -0
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– AgilePickle1123 28 points 1 year ago +28 / -0

At this point if the corrupt cops kick down my door to arrest me for wrongthink, I’m not going down without a fight. They are gonna lock you up and throw away the key

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– SophiesBoyfriend 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward. Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

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– throwawayaccount2037 13 points 1 year ago +13 / -0

Yep, and before long they will start Katyn'ing wrongthinkers.

Better to put up a fight than to go down whimpering.

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– deleted 22 points 1 year ago +22 / -0
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– altmehere 19 points 1 year ago +19 / -0

It suggests that the French state isn't being given access to a backdoor by Telegram. It doesn't necessarily suggest that the state doesn't have access through other means though, as it may be in their best interest to act like they don't even if they do.

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– Kaarous 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

It'd stand to reason. They wouldn't be upset if they were getting the data.

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– Slav4U [S] 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Sure looks that way.

Some rumblings that the arrest was really because he was working with the Russian government, but he fought them long ago with telegram so it's hard to believe.

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– Maskurbator 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Plus they need Russia to be the bad guy so they'll pull a stunt like this to frame it that way to the masses. Russia bad. This guy was born Russian. So he bad. So whatever we do to him is good. Smokescreen for their bullshit.

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– subbookkeeper 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Police not security services.

I would imagine security services could get into telegram but wouldn't share it with national police forces.

Even if they couldn't directly get into the data stream somehow, which it all travels on undersea cables in the end. You use Telegram on a phone which is far less secure than the app itself.

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– Slav4U [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

This is a fair point really. Only having access to the device side is incredibly slow and painful for collection services however, and they of course miss a lot that way.

It's never enough for them.

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– DistilledLife 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

Authoritarian tyrants hate secure encryption because they can't spy on people for wrongthink or other behaviors they want to control if it's tight enough. Of course it can have the consequence of potential exploitation by criminals, which has now gotten bad as the "think of the children" excuse, but that's not the responsibility of the Free Man exercising his natural rights.

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– TriangleGang 11 points 1 year ago +11 / -0

Apparently, he's been a French citizen since 2021. That was a mistake.

I'm guessing that most countries are not going to arrest a completely foreign citizen running a completely foreign company for not following their censorship laws simply because it's sets a dangerous precedent that can be used against their own people.

Plus, the one benefit for being a citizen of an oppressive shithole like Russia is that they're not above "disappearing" a dozen nationals from whatever country arrests you in retaliation- like China did to Canada for the Huawei chick that they arrested.

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– Ricky_CIA 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Badthink is doubleplus ungood.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

We need to ask ourselves- “how has zuckerberg avoided all these charges when his site is allegedly number 1 for most child sextortion crimes?”

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– SicilianOmega 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

His name ends in -berg.

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– Nikola_S1 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

He works with the authorities and hands them small fish?

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– Totsugeki 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

His wife is really his Chinese handler.

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– Hing 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Criminals use cars, arrest carmakers now!

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– PermaHandshake 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I guess I finally understand DOM's moderating on KIA2. DOM wants to make sure he doesn't get arrested for not censoring enough when he travels to Europe.

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– PatrikStar24 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

3 year old account

Doesn't start posting until 8 days ago

Username checks out.

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– Vivs3rdSock 17 points 1 year ago +17 / -0

The account started posting 3 years ago when it was first made but then stopped until restarting 8 days ago. Isn't the only account that old to suddenly start posting here again, SophiesBoyfriend is another who restarted 19 days ago.

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– Adamrises 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

If you look a lot of the "hot take" posting accounts, that's been the case for months now. All of them are very old accounts that went dormant a long time ago only to start posting constantly for days on end.

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– deleted 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0
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– BeefyBelisarius 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Or more likely, AI advances have made it economical to deploy chatbot shills to smaller sites.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

That’s 100% correct- I don’t see why we should create a permanent record linking everything we have ever said for authorities.

I will probably create another account every few weeks.

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– Vivs3rdSock 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I don’t see why we should create a permanent record

I will probably create another account every few weeks.

Account is 3 years old and still posting

Your argument is retarded.

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– 83671R18 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

He did say something about britbong agencies some time ago.

https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/17txR8jgR6/x/c/4ZDrsmo6ils

I'm of the opinion that redcoat invaders should be shown a warning shot first and ordered to leave the premises, and if they do not stand down, full military force.

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– MLGS 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

You need to just avoid Europe entirely if you've ever mentioned inconvenient reality.

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– Nfts 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Free speech is under attack worldwide.

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– deleted 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0
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– Slav4U [S] 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

No indication he did know. Betting the warrant was not public.

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– mikhalych 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

rumor says they issues the warrant minutes before he landed.

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– AnAmishWithATude 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Pretty stupid thing to do, land in France

Ftfy

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