How an ADL spy operation helped bring down the far-right John Birch Society
(www.timesofisrael.com)
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The horses' mouth: "The last thing I’ll say is that one of the admirable things in the 1960s about the ADL and the liberal coalition it belonged to is that it built support for landmark legislation like the Immigration Act of 1965, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act of ’65. '
Forgot to archive because much dumb: https://archive.is/hPtqY
Oooooof.
Single-handedly some of the biggest policies that have led to the destruction we see today. Funny how that works huh?
Bugging out on this thread for tonight but I'm appending one last comment to the top thread. Thanks Pickle.
I totally missed the following in the Times of Israel article:
Dallek: "But the ADL also had undercover agents with code names, who were able to infiltrate the society’s headquarters in Belmont, Massachusetts, and various chapter officers. They dug up financial and employment information about individual Birchers."
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Elia-Shalvev: "That last thought brings to mind another, right-wing Jewish group that existed in this era of taking things into our own hands, that did use violence, explosives even."
Dallek: "You mean the Jewish Defense League, led by Meir Kahane."
Elia-Shalvev: "Yes, exactly."
Dallek: "He was a Bircher. Toward the end of my book, I mention that he was a member for a while, under his alias Michael King."
WHAT THE FUCK? So an ADL agent went on to form an internationally recognized terrorist group and he got his start by spying on American grassroots politics?
typical jew MO
shapeshift, subvert, and destroy
This stood out to me too. It's such a brief write-off, it seems like he's trying to disown the guy. 'Oh that violent Jew? #NotAllJews bro, that one's a Bircher.'
...Except he just spent an entire interview going on at length about how good they were at infiltrating the Birch Society.
So I guess jewish infiltration = noble and good, but when you want to disown a certain jew who got found out, then membership = simply membership, and we're supposed to forget that infiltration was ever a thing, even as recently as a few sentences ago.
And…society is ruined.
Antoine will be in here shortly to tell you how the Birchers are wacky conspiratorial nutcases and you are too.
He and Gitz really know how to avoid the threads that feature extensive self-noticing. Hard to refute direct quotes boasting about how accurate all of the conspiracy theories truly are.
I'm pretty tired of noticing, but I felt the jewposting lately was pretty low effort. Thus this post. At this point, I'm convinced you could write a book that would make Hitler blush just by using excerpts of things like the OP article. If I were Joe Shlomo, I'd be pretty pissed off at my co-ethnics.
I believe that the ADL tried. They would give themselves a lot of credit, you know? I don't believe it just because they say it.
I doubt anything regarding the ADL would be surprising but the article is worth a read for the brazenness alone. These guys still openly admit to doing this stuff (updated for the digital age), and have government contracts.
They were crazy. They thought that you could change the system from inside the system.
"Vote harder" the prequel.
It has been shown time and time again that it is much easier to kill a man than to change their mind.
After you make enough examples, fear takes over and they change their own mind. A generation later you have socialist China.
That sounds exactly like something a massive faggot would say.
Well, AoV was a moderator for r/dickgirls.
Look at all the evil things they did
Doesn't this very much echo the current response of the DoJ / Silicon Valley / Journos to groups like, say, Moms for Liberty? Here's what the ADL did back then:
This is why we have to make ourselves undoxable. If you work for a strong, white firm, they're gonna laugh when your docs come out.
It's time we cleave to our own. Even incognito, it's not hard to figure out who we are. Seek out gun enthusiasts.
Roadmaps? Mass education? Impeaching the Supreme Court? Running for local school boards?
Who are these people? Modern leftists!?
No sense leaving a good idea go to waste.
why was the adl allowed to get to this point?
all i get from this is that the birch guys were right and this is just them gloating about having gotten away with it.
Some Jews appear to be particularly adept at taking advantage of others' good principles. If Americans believe in the freedom of speech and the right to petition the government, some Jews will use that to restrict the freedom of speech of and ability to petition the government of non-Jewish Americans. Organizations like the ADL, AIPAC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the ACLU all appear to operate like this. Once the Civil Rights Act of 1964 became law, it became impossible to root out.
Its really amazing how Jews will rush to claim credit for basically every major political landmark in history. And then wonder why a large amount of people hate them.
Reminder these fuckers control the FBI and have said as much, they also came up with “Hate Crime” laws, aka anti-White horseshit.
I don't know much about the John Birch Society but here's a former chairman Larry Mcdonald, talking on US TV about the New World Order. Interesting how the passenger jet he was flying on was shot down in mysterious circumstances months later, officially because an autopilot error caused an incursion into soviet airspace.
That's pretty interesting. There's a whole lot there that seems prophetic 40 years later.
Edit: especially the disingenuous pearl clutching about conspiracies.
YouTube helpfully provides a wikipedia link under the video explaining that the NWO is a conspiracy theory too, so at least we're well protected and reminded against these poisonous Birchers.
I suspect if it was a newer video or had garnered more than 150k views across 13 years, it would have trouble even staying up on YT. Good candidate for download and reuploading elsewhere just in case.
I'm headed down a rabbit hole in regards to Tom Braden, the guy sitting across from Pat Buchanan. I was not familiar with him. It seems he was a CIA man through and through, and even wiki includes the fact he used company money to influence American politics. In line with the congressman's claims in the CNN Crossfire interview, he was funding "anti-Soviet' leftists, ie moving the US more gently to the left. This was probably not public in '83 when this interview was done. Of course, his 'journalistic' career after leaving the agency was obviously not a retirement from his previous work.
Which proves that he knew everything McDonald was saying was on the money, all the while feigning his absurd scepticism larp and trying to undermine what was being said in the minds of the viewing audience.
Fucking radical, ain't it?
That flight is a rabbit hole. On its own independently of any Birchers.
Seems like the perfect crime, though. Lead the airliner off course without them knowing it. Shoot it down. Trawl over the remains of the aircraft. Bury everything. Not the quietest way to kill Birchers so I doubt that was the goal. Don't you think these guys got on smaller planes that could hve been taken down with less fanfare?
But at the same time they had to know they could get away with it if they wanted.
I was skimming the details last night and as many as 3-4 US congressmen were originally meant to be flying together, potentially. It could be that Korean 007 provided the best opportunity to get all at once, however the circumstances by which they all got diverted so that only McDonald remained on the plane also seem very convoluted (flight diversion, delays in schedule, failure to persuade McDonald to switch planes)
From wikipedia:
So I have no idea what to think.
Once again, a jew bragging about something I am not allowed to repeat.
The Unz review has a good history of the Birch Society (still around btw)
Essentially when it was formed the jewish question was so obvious they had to make a decision whether to directly answer it and take on the mantle of anti semite they knew they would get, or just leave it open and obvious without directly referring to it.
I don't love that, but I do seem to see that in the interview in this post. Amusingly one of the host was even slimier as I point out here.
Also I think Unz's American Pravda Series is one thing I would recommend to anyone with an open mind. Its changed my worldview. More because of the WW2 entries than anything JQ related.
American Pravda is what finally made me realize that not only is the record of the present filtered through the lugenpresse but so is the record of the past. That is discomforting as it puts a lot into question. Wikipedia, itself, is a record of the jewish media. They are often the original source for "scholarly" publications. You have history built on lies.
I imagine Unz is pretty isolated for a rich guy. They won't let anyone have a platform and say shit like that. Internet conspiracy sites are allowed.
Anyways, Hi 2 Tel Aviv.
J-for-J media is where most of the juiciest stuff is.
In case anyone was wondering, it's (((The Nation))), edited by a holocaust-obsessed jew. I suppose that's implied coming from the ADL.
Causes such as communism.
They targeted Birch because communism is jewish. That was a really long way to say that.
Buckley is one of those that I don't know who he was working for, but I know he was working for someone. That goes for all the Neoconservatives that crushed the grassroots conservatives of the 40s and 50s. The Neocons being Trotskyites after all.
I still don't know the answer, but based on what I learned on this comment thread, I'm prepared to speculate that Neocons (commies) like Buckley were also funded by the CIA. Funding "anti-Soviet" Leftists and Trotskyite "conservatives" at the same time is what one might expect from an intelligence agency.