They're mostly admitting that the female initiation model is a failure, which should have been obvious going in, and if it wasn't women's behavior on the apps should have clued them in long before now. There were so many retards who still expected men to approach them on the app despite the men being prevented from doing so. The rest of them would send a "hi" and expect the other party to carry the conversation, despite saying they hate it when they get those messages (unless Chad does it of course). I don't bother with apps but everyone I know that's used Bumble says they only get messages from bottom of the barrel women and even then they have to do all the work.
Sexual market value. RMV is relationship market value. The former is more valuable for men and the latter is more valuable for women but they're pretty intertwined, especially for women. It's a major part of inter-sexual dynamics and if you check out red pill spaces they go into as much detail as anyone would ever want about the subject.
Yeah, it's where the concept of 49ers come from. A woman who's a 4 feeling entitled to a man who's a 9 because a 9 fucked her behind the dumpster on a Tuesday afternoon.
Idk how dating apps don’t get exhausting, unless you’re a really good looking dude and don’t have to try as hard.
My experience was pretty fucking bad. Any girls I did meet and actually managed to impress in conversation turned out to be some of the most basic and boring bitches I’ve ever had the displeasure of going out with. It was so genuinely exhausting
Yeah, I tried using Bumble at one point, and it managed to be much, much worse than Tinder, or any of the other ones I've tried... Which is quite something.
Honestly, while yes it is much more intimidating to do so (potentially for both parties), IMHO you likely have a better success rate just going out to a bar and starting convos with random women...
Or at least I do, and I'm not exactly a "Chad", lol...
Then again, there was a time when I wouldn't have been able to do that (and I still struggle), and it obviously comes with cost, + the potential for things to go wrong, so... Yeah.
Yes, it was. They replaced it with some "opening moves" gimmick where homos, women, and perverts claiming to be women and "nonbinary" can set opening moves, which is a question the person initiating is supposed to answer. That will do do nothing to stop the dynamic from becoming the same as all the other apps. Chad messages "hi" and he's laying pipe 10 minutes later and it's a waste of time for everyone else.
The only other unique thing they offer is that they aren't "dating" only and have the option for "business" and "friends."
I don't think most people even know that these options exist however, so I doubt its providing a large supply to pick from nor is the type of guy/business desperate enough to use it someone you want to interact with.
Maybe if you moved to a new area and really want to find a fishing buddy or something.
Sounds like the same stupid stunt Onlyfans pulled trying to claim it's not just for porn, when that's the first thing everyone assumes it will be if someone states to have an account. Nobody is subbing to an OF account to watch someone cook while clothed when that exists on YouTube and other platforms already, ans probably with fewer clothes!
Extreme psycho perverts have paid to see women not get naked online for decades. Even back when solo girl paysites existed instead of Onlyfans, there were some women who could get away with charging $30/month for basically Instagram shots.
I know some content creators prefer OnlyFans to Patreon because, well, fuck Patreon, but each and every one of them then needs to spend a few seconds after shilling it to say "and yes, it's just a Patreon substitute, I'm not naked on it, it just is a superior payment platform, despite its reputation."
They're mostly admitting that the female initiation model is a failure, which should have been obvious going in, and if it wasn't women's behavior on the apps should have clued them in long before now. There were so many retards who still expected men to approach them on the app despite the men being prevented from doing so. The rest of them would send a "hi" and expect the other party to carry the conversation, despite saying they hate it when they get those messages (unless Chad does it of course). I don't bother with apps but everyone I know that's used Bumble says they only get messages from bottom of the barrel women and even then they have to do all the work.
For some bizarre reason bottom of the barrel women are just as demanding as average or beautiful women
Simps have destroyed their ability to accurately gauge their SMV.
What's SMV..?
Something something Value, I'm guessing?
Sexual market value. RMV is relationship market value. The former is more valuable for men and the latter is more valuable for women but they're pretty intertwined, especially for women. It's a major part of inter-sexual dynamics and if you check out red pill spaces they go into as much detail as anyone would ever want about the subject.
Sexual Market Value, or something.
Basically correctly rating themself, whatever that may be.
For example: as a solid 6 instead of believing they are an upper 9, because they're still "humble" enough to not go for the obvious 10 label.
Yeah, it's where the concept of 49ers come from. A woman who's a 4 feeling entitled to a man who's a 9 because a 9 fucked her behind the dumpster on a Tuesday afternoon.
Well yeah, some guys start drinking early in the day so mistakes will happen 🍺👓
Idk how dating apps don’t get exhausting, unless you’re a really good looking dude and don’t have to try as hard.
My experience was pretty fucking bad. Any girls I did meet and actually managed to impress in conversation turned out to be some of the most basic and boring bitches I’ve ever had the displeasure of going out with. It was so genuinely exhausting
Yeah, I tried using Bumble at one point, and it managed to be much, much worse than Tinder, or any of the other ones I've tried... Which is quite something.
Honestly, while yes it is much more intimidating to do so (potentially for both parties), IMHO you likely have a better success rate just going out to a bar and starting convos with random women...
Or at least I do, and I'm not exactly a "Chad", lol...
Then again, there was a time when I wouldn't have been able to do that (and I still struggle), and it obviously comes with cost, + the potential for things to go wrong, so... Yeah.
Wasn't that their only competitive distinction?
Now they're just another player competing with a dozen others on what? UI? Farmers Only has more of a value proposition than you do now.
Exactly what I came to ask. Wasn't that...their whole thing?
It's like tumblr getting rid of porn.
Like Reddit getting rid of politics
Yes, it was. They replaced it with some "opening moves" gimmick where homos, women, and perverts claiming to be women and "nonbinary" can set opening moves, which is a question the person initiating is supposed to answer. That will do do nothing to stop the dynamic from becoming the same as all the other apps. Chad messages "hi" and he's laying pipe 10 minutes later and it's a waste of time for everyone else.
The only other unique thing they offer is that they aren't "dating" only and have the option for "business" and "friends."
I don't think most people even know that these options exist however, so I doubt its providing a large supply to pick from nor is the type of guy/business desperate enough to use it someone you want to interact with.
Maybe if you moved to a new area and really want to find a fishing buddy or something.
I've heard of women on apps saying they just want "friends", which is code for beta orbiters. Chad still gets to smash of course.
Well yeah but this wasn't that.
It was straight up guy to guy friendship meeting, or girl to girl I guess. Nothing coded, just odd.
Sounds like the same stupid stunt Onlyfans pulled trying to claim it's not just for porn, when that's the first thing everyone assumes it will be if someone states to have an account. Nobody is subbing to an OF account to watch someone cook while clothed when that exists on YouTube and other platforms already, ans probably with fewer clothes!
Extreme psycho perverts have paid to see women not get naked online for decades. Even back when solo girl paysites existed instead of Onlyfans, there were some women who could get away with charging $30/month for basically Instagram shots.
I know some content creators prefer OnlyFans to Patreon because, well, fuck Patreon, but each and every one of them then needs to spend a few seconds after shilling it to say "and yes, it's just a Patreon substitute, I'm not naked on it, it just is a superior payment platform, despite its reputation."
Women aren't doing much chasing, you say? I am shocked.
Too fat I guess.
Their inserted picture is the typical miscegenation of White woman and black man, this time literally named Jamal. Disgusting.
Some women want to be single mothers
It's the dual mating strategy. They want Billy Beta to raise Tyrone's kids.
So, Tindr, but women chat 1st is no Tinder in yellow. A+
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