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Apple’s Monopoly in Action - Apple Banned Epic from all IOS devices because of Tim Sweeney’s mean Tweets. Confirming EU’s actions to break up Apple’s App store monopoly. (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by NatalieBiden 2 years ago by NatalieBiden +50 / -0
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– nuggetpatrol 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

As we all know, mean tweets are the worst possible thing you can do ever.

You can let million across the border, change the way laws work so it only affects your opponents, fuck over the world economy so people can't afford food let alone rent/mortgage, get the country to be a laughing stock, bring you to the brink of world war three...

but don't you fucking dare post a mean tweet.

The world is run by petty tyrants with fragile egos, ladies and gentlemen.

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– deleted 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0
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– RoulerBleu 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Everyone benefits from the Epic vs Apple slapfights.

Playstation has exclusive games.

Nintendo has exclusive games.

Gamecube has exclusive games.

Epic has exclusive games. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

I don't like exclusives either as it's obviously a marketting strategy working against consumers. But is anyone other than Epic accused of ''focring a monopoly''? You can even torrent Zelda games bundled with a Switch emulator if you don't want to encourage exclusives.

The more publishers put shit like DRM and exclusives, the more likely the games get ''creatively fixed'', torrented and ported on emulator.

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– ghostfox1_ 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

The difference is that (for example) Nintendo exclusives are agreed on before hand in order to use the ip.

Epic flat out bribes people for exclusives, and everything about them is scummy.

So fuck epic, and fuck apple both.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

This! Also some exclusives for Sony are slowly being put on pc. Epic is just buying their way in and I don't like it.

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– deleted 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0
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– Adamrises 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You remember back in the PS3/360 gen when it was common for games to only be available or have content locked to only certain storefronts like Best Buy or Walmart?

Probably not because it was so widely hated it was literally bullied out of the industry and would be a better fit for your analogy, but then it would also reveal your stance is retarded and shortsighted.

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– SoctaticMethod1 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

You shouldn't let personal feelings influence business decisions but that seems lost on MANY companies nowadays...

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– APDSmith 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

At this level, how much of it is "business decisions" and how much is attempting to usher in this new feudalism they all seem so bloody enamoured of?

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– SoctaticMethod1 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Which will fail without PHYSICAL force. You can't do Feudalism without the threat of physical force, you can try to coerce through access to market and the like but unless they fear you using force to.take everything it's only going to go so far.

And courts don't count as that's using a third party's force so they fear THEM not you.

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– MLGS 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Millennials simply don't have any kind of emotional control. Zoomers are going to be even worse in a couple decades.

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– RoulerBleu 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It seems companies have a problem with being staffed by vindictive, arrogant people in administrative positions. And they love pulling the trigger when someone hurt their fee-feels.

They are so used to getting their way because they don't have the self-reflection to hold back and thing ''wait, will this come biting me in the ass when the plebs find out?''

See also : the retards who debanked Nigel Farage in the UK because they didn't like his opinions on mass-migration and independance, making a surprise Pikachu face when he sued them and the cockroaches freaked the fuck out.

Unsurprising but extremely concerning : The mainstream media initially made excuses for the bank's action ( sometimes outright lying about it ) with articles clearly written by people happy Farage got debanked. ( the vast majority of journalists hate Farage over Brexit and demographic replacement ).

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– MorbidlyCatatonic 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

I forgot to post the funniest part of this earlier this week; but Apple went full propaganda mode, trying to scare people that if this EU law passes Apple devices can get infected with "viruses "and "porn apps".

But realistically it was just their closed monopoly on their products which was as risk.

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– realerfunction 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

the eu are cunts

apple are cunts

cunt war

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Epic is also cunts. Everyone's a cunt in this.

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– Adamrises 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Epic said outloud that their entire lawsuit wasn't about "principles" and they just wanted "special treatment" from Apple for being a big name.

So anyone trying to pretend there is any moral or principle at play here is just revealing themselves to be easily swayed by propaganda, exactly as Epic planned in a fucking spreadsheet to use them for in this legal battle.

Apple is a monopolistic company and absolutely deserves to be ripped apart, but let's not rewrite history to make Epic a victim or reduce their role down to "mean tweets".

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Epic made it clear what it was really about, when they pulled the exact same shit with google on android. Android allows the downloading of apps without using google's services. Sure they refer to it as "sideloading" instead of downloading and put in vaguely scary warnings for CYA, but it's still entirely possible to have apps on android without giving google a cut.

Tim Sweeney is just butthurt that he can't profit off of their services, without giving them a cut.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It's actually "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China."

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think that's total b.s. I just checked the old Mac I have quick access too--a MacPro1,1 from 2007, and it says "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China." The OG iPod, from 2001, also had that language.

I've got a couple late 90s Macs in storage. I'll check them later.

Apple under Jobs actually tried to keep as much manufacturing local as possible.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/15/business/apple-california-manufacturing-history.html

In 1983, Mr. Jobs oversaw the construction of a state-of-the-art plant where the new Macintosh computer would be built. Reporters who toured it early on were told that the plant, located just across San Francisco Bay from Apple’s headquarters, was so advanced that factory labor would account for 2 percent of the cost of making a Macintosh. “Steve had deep convictions about Japanese manufacturing processes,” recalled Randy Battat, who joined Apple as a young electrical engineer and oversaw the introduction of some of the company’s early portable computers. “The Japanese were heralded as wizards of manufacturing. The idea was to create a factory with just-in-time delivery of zero-defect parts. It wasn’t great for business.” ... That failure taught Mr. Jobs the lesson. He returned to Apple in 1997, and the next year, he hired Tim Cook as Apple’s senior vice president for worldwide operations. Mr. Cook had mastered the art of global manufacturing supply chains, first in IBM’s personal computer business and then at Compaq Computer.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Are you saying that Apple invented outsourcing? Tell that to Detroit and the car companies! Tell that to literally every manufacturing industry in the world.

Early Apples used Motorola 68k chips. These were largely fabbed in the US, AFAIK.

After that, the PowerPC chips were also, I believe, mostly fabbed by IBM in the US.

Intel chips were fabbed primarily in the US for Apple.

So I guess the current "Apple Silicon" chips that are fabbed in Taiwan are the big departure...

Tim Cook, starting in the very late 90s, did reverse Steve Jobs' efforts to keep stuff local, and did increase manufacturing and assembly in China (and Taiwan and Japanese etc).

With regards to Commodore, I would think the surge in Intel x86 computers w/ DOS would have made a far bigger impact than anything Apple did.

I really don't think this criticism of Apple holds water.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So I found, in my basement, an Apple Quadra from 1993 that says simply "Assembled in U.S.A." (Still boots!) I haven't opened it up, but skimming parts list, many were manufactured in the US as well.

I found a B&W G3 PowerMAc from later in the 90s that says "Assembled in Singapore" (!)

From ~2000 on I see mostly "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China."

I don't see anything to your claim.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Check this:

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-apple-really-lost-its-lead-in-the-80s-2012-12?op=1

There's no rational way to claim that Apple, of all companies, put Commodore out of business.

Assembled in USA. I can find one computer out of ~2 dozen from 40 years that use that terminology. (And after Commodore was basically dead.)

Googled IIgs, etc. to find their labels (I don't have any computers that go back that far). All the labels I could locate online say either "Made in Singapore" or "Assembled in Mexico" or similar.

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