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Apple’s Monopoly in Action - Apple Banned Epic from all IOS devices because of Tim Sweeney’s mean Tweets. Confirming EU’s actions to break up Apple’s App store monopoly. (twitter.com)
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– KeeperOfTheGate 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It's actually "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China."

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think that's total b.s. I just checked the old Mac I have quick access too--a MacPro1,1 from 2007, and it says "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China." The OG iPod, from 2001, also had that language.

I've got a couple late 90s Macs in storage. I'll check them later.

Apple under Jobs actually tried to keep as much manufacturing local as possible.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/15/business/apple-california-manufacturing-history.html

In 1983, Mr. Jobs oversaw the construction of a state-of-the-art plant where the new Macintosh computer would be built. Reporters who toured it early on were told that the plant, located just across San Francisco Bay from Apple’s headquarters, was so advanced that factory labor would account for 2 percent of the cost of making a Macintosh. “Steve had deep convictions about Japanese manufacturing processes,” recalled Randy Battat, who joined Apple as a young electrical engineer and oversaw the introduction of some of the company’s early portable computers. “The Japanese were heralded as wizards of manufacturing. The idea was to create a factory with just-in-time delivery of zero-defect parts. It wasn’t great for business.” ... That failure taught Mr. Jobs the lesson. He returned to Apple in 1997, and the next year, he hired Tim Cook as Apple’s senior vice president for worldwide operations. Mr. Cook had mastered the art of global manufacturing supply chains, first in IBM’s personal computer business and then at Compaq Computer.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Are you saying that Apple invented outsourcing? Tell that to Detroit and the car companies! Tell that to literally every manufacturing industry in the world.

Early Apples used Motorola 68k chips. These were largely fabbed in the US, AFAIK.

After that, the PowerPC chips were also, I believe, mostly fabbed by IBM in the US.

Intel chips were fabbed primarily in the US for Apple.

So I guess the current "Apple Silicon" chips that are fabbed in Taiwan are the big departure...

Tim Cook, starting in the very late 90s, did reverse Steve Jobs' efforts to keep stuff local, and did increase manufacturing and assembly in China (and Taiwan and Japanese etc).

With regards to Commodore, I would think the surge in Intel x86 computers w/ DOS would have made a far bigger impact than anything Apple did.

I really don't think this criticism of Apple holds water.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So I found, in my basement, an Apple Quadra from 1993 that says simply "Assembled in U.S.A." (Still boots!) I haven't opened it up, but skimming parts list, many were manufactured in the US as well.

I found a B&W G3 PowerMAc from later in the 90s that says "Assembled in Singapore" (!)

From ~2000 on I see mostly "Designed by Apple in California. Assembled in China."

I don't see anything to your claim.

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