He who is not angry, whereas he has cause to be, sins. For unreasonable patience is the hotbed of many vices, it fosters negligence, and incites not only the wicked but the good to do wrong.
-John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople, c. 349-407
First, there is no such phrase in the First Amendment. That was made up by an activist judiciary long after the Founders were dead.
Second, this is evidence of precisely the opposite. If Christianity has been enshrined as the official religion of the United States for the last two centuries or so, the vast majority of the vileness that assails us today would never have gotten off the ground.
The Founders intended to do this in a workaround way by explicitly banning nonwhite immigration but that eventually fell through in the early 1900s.
Jefferson was fairly clear that government should not endorse specific religions. His views are representative of at least half the founders, many who were deists (especially the more influential individuals). I'm not implying that it was a good idea for the bill of rights to extend beyond the federal government (those later activist judges post civil-war), instead that those founders expected state governments to stay out of religion. I'm not aware of any impartial source that deduces the likely stance of the deist founders on state legislatures being allowed to monument the 10 commandments.
See, liberals always spout that off too. And yet the legislation I cited was passed by the same men, effectively doing exactly what I said.
As for their expectations of individual states, Pennsylvania at the time outlawed several religions, while eventually Mormonism was outlawed in nearly every state.
What Jefferson wrote outside of legislation was his own opinions, and is not actually reflected in any laws. Funny huh?
Would this be the same Jefferson whose statues are being torn down by these same sorts of people demanding "freedom of expression" for their statues to Satan?
In the past I might have cared about stunts like this, but now that statues of the people who founded my country are being torn down, I find it hard to.
No, I'm saying that the idea of "separation of church and state" is made up out of whole cloth, and not in the least found in the text of the first amendment.
What the actual text says, forbids the creation of a mandatory federal religion. This is backed up by understanding that the Founders believed that the church of England was corrupt and having the head of state be the head of the church was a bad idea.
Most of the Bill of Rights is just a laundry list of complaints against the British system of the time.
Church of Satan is boring these days. I'd wager if you made a Church of Hitler and put on a display of the Mustache Man himself you'd have even the Church of Satan telling you you've gone too far and are making a mockery of "freedom of expression" and demanding the thing be torn down.
Which is an interesting meta because you'd think the Mustache Man would be a subset of the literal Bilblical embodiment of evil, but I don't think that's how it would actually play out today.
Good. It's not enough to be not tolerant, you have to be anti tolerant.
-John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople, c. 349-407
Yeah, that's called "having convictions" but half this site wouldn't know what that is.
Half if we're lucky.
I mean based, if they constantly attack Christians, why not attack their false idols?
Now do the shrines dedicated to Saint Floyd of Fentanyl.
We already have that. It's called abortion. There's a reason they're pulling out all the stops to protect that ritual.
Don't they have a literal satanic abortion ritual?
Like smashing profane altars in Diablo.
Hope he got some good drops.
Deus Vult!
Sword in one hand, Bible in the other. Time to party like Saint Michael. Banish the devils.
Good for him. Considering the American "justice" system I wonder how many decades of solitary he will get because of it.
Actually based.
First, there is no such phrase in the First Amendment. That was made up by an activist judiciary long after the Founders were dead.
Second, this is evidence of precisely the opposite. If Christianity has been enshrined as the official religion of the United States for the last two centuries or so, the vast majority of the vileness that assails us today would never have gotten off the ground.
The Founders intended to do this in a workaround way by explicitly banning nonwhite immigration but that eventually fell through in the early 1900s.
Doubt it all you please, the Immigration Act of 1790 is abundantly clear.
https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
Jefferson was fairly clear that government should not endorse specific religions. His views are representative of at least half the founders, many who were deists (especially the more influential individuals). I'm not implying that it was a good idea for the bill of rights to extend beyond the federal government (those later activist judges post civil-war), instead that those founders expected state governments to stay out of religion. I'm not aware of any impartial source that deduces the likely stance of the deist founders on state legislatures being allowed to monument the 10 commandments.
See, liberals always spout that off too. And yet the legislation I cited was passed by the same men, effectively doing exactly what I said.
As for their expectations of individual states, Pennsylvania at the time outlawed several religions, while eventually Mormonism was outlawed in nearly every state.
What Jefferson wrote outside of legislation was his own opinions, and is not actually reflected in any laws. Funny huh?
Would this be the same Jefferson whose statues are being torn down by these same sorts of people demanding "freedom of expression" for their statues to Satan?
In the past I might have cared about stunts like this, but now that statues of the people who founded my country are being torn down, I find it hard to.
Yeah between torn statues and the non levayan satanists being pathetically transparent grifts, I have no problem with this incident.
No, I'm saying that the idea of "separation of church and state" is made up out of whole cloth, and not in the least found in the text of the first amendment.
What the actual text says, forbids the creation of a mandatory federal religion. This is backed up by understanding that the Founders believed that the church of England was corrupt and having the head of state be the head of the church was a bad idea.
Most of the Bill of Rights is just a laundry list of complaints against the British system of the time.
People like you are how we got to this point.
/r/atheism
Idk whether the Satanic display is truly constitutional or not. But I know that this guy did the right thing beheading it.
Turn about is fair play.
Fuck you.
Based Templar.
A Christian carries out a righteous act against heretics? In 2023? Am I dreaming?
Total chad. Nice one.
Church of Satan is boring these days. I'd wager if you made a Church of Hitler and put on a display of the Mustache Man himself you'd have even the Church of Satan telling you you've gone too far and are making a mockery of "freedom of expression" and demanding the thing be torn down.
Which is an interesting meta because you'd think the Mustache Man would be a subset of the literal Bilblical embodiment of evil, but I don't think that's how it would actually play out today.
These fuckers are going to get what’s coming to them.