"... ah, it burns, it burns!". Local firefighters posted about it, and even AutoBlog did a piece about it.
So, big takeaways here: one, people vastly overestimate how much their vehicle can tow. I have seen people in Tacomas and Colorados try to haul 8-10k+ pounds, and ruin their vehicle doing it. Yes, it says you can tow that much in the manual... but that's on flat, dry ground on a cold day.
Two, Tesla apparently has a "BAIL OUT" alert for when their vehicles begin to slide down hills or towards bodies of water (listen to the YouTube video, apparently the driver told people that the car was warning her to exit the vehicle the entire time it was rolling into the lake).
Lastly, these lithium fires cannot be good for the environment. Even more so when it's happening in bodies of water that people swim in, drink out of, and fish in.
If you've seen how they refine lithium, it's absolutely not good for the environment. It's a metallic/salt. Nothing will ever grow on or after a lithium evaporation site. Maybe some exotic fungus or something, doubtful.
It looks pretty though, just super deadly/toxic.
As long as NIMBYs don't see the pollution, it never happened.
Crazy high concentration is the issue there though. Only extremophiles tend to grow in salt flats too, doesn't mean the sea's ruined because it's got a little sodium chloride in it.
As far as I'm aware lithium itself as an environmental metal ion/salt isn't nearly as bad as the heavy metals like lead, cadmium or mercury. Less well tolerated than iron or copper still, but not the worst.
So that one battery bank probably isn't going to ruin the lake. It's when thousands of waste batteries start leaking that you'll see the weird shit start happening.
Oh. yah I don't think it'll ruin a lake either. I was just talking about those massive evaporation / refining flats. It's just ironic this whole govt push for green, the stuff we're cranking out is worse than the oil and C02.
Nothing beats that "Bio-matter Plant" that Michael Moore reported on. They were cutting down trees and turning them into sawdust, in order to burn the sawdust to turn a generator.
No.
Just stop.
Get some help.
tbf nothing grew there before. For the same reason.
Are you talking about the salt evaporation ponds used in mining? The same pond is used over and over so it's not really a big deal. There are potash and bicarbonate mines all over that do the same thing, also brine disposal from desalination plants.
Compare to the results of mining tar sands where you need to continually fuck over new areas.
Yeah. I'm talking about the big lithium flats. It leeches into aquifer. Yes, it is better than setting up new sites everywhere.
Ehh, what's a little MORE lithium in the water supply between friends? Maybe it'll reduce depression rates!
Unless you're next to a lithium plant, it's not.
An Edison is the only EV I would consider buying, if the government ever certifies it.
EVs catch fire a lot in your garage or other places it'll be dangerous and do lots of damage.
Hydrogen fuel cells are amazing, but the pumps explode and if somebody wanted to use it for terrorism, purposely puncturing a tank in a building will do huge damage to people and furnishings (even if the structure remains intact).
...gasoline is like democracy; it's a terrible way to power cars, but the alternatives are worse.
Ordinary morons having common access to hydrogen is terrifying. Any hydrogen is an explosion waiting to happen. it's LEL and UEL are pretty much any concertation it wants from 4% to 76%.
I suppose H2 is one way to eliminate smoking. After a year or 2, all the smokers will have blown themselves up.
Yup. Hydrogen explosions used to happen even in special military projects when it was handled under super strict protocols. It's impossible to safety use it as a civilian power source.
Battery tech that's as energy dense but not as explodey as lithium exists but is locked up in patents, probably because the military is using them. It's been a couple of decades though so we might start to see some new battery types appear soon.
Since they can catch fire, arguably you could use an EV for a bomb as well.
Actually, that reminds me of gasoline car bombs too. Could explode an oil truck as well.
It doesn't explode so much as burn really hot. It's more of a drawn out reaction.
It has some kind of sensor, smoke or temp on the batteries, so it alerts you about a minute before a battery fire starts. That was what the warning was. The driver bailed leaving the Tesla to slide down the ramp into the water as the fire began.
I have a serious concern about the shatter resistant windows in the cyber truck. Unbreakable windows + electric batteries + "smart" door locks is a recipe for being burned alive. Seems like only a matter of time.
Teslas do have an "emergency" manual door release. It's typically inside the door panel, though.
Or a recipe for drowning. I keep a little hammer in the car just in case the window needs to be broken to get out. I wonder if it would work on the CyberTruck.
I thought it was going to say something like " I'm not gonna Crack" (I like it)
She took her shot and it did her in