Look, I'm all about self improvement but when below average women want the top 0.5% of men, it's time for society to start viewing the situation from the opposite lens. It's not men that need to improve themselves any more, it's women who need to set realistic expectations.
We as a society seemed to recognize that men had unrealistic standards for women and we told men to stop having them. Women don't need to be feminine, women don't need to a healthy weight, women don't need to want to have sex all the time and it's fine for women to wear pants, sweatshirts, get face tattoos and piercings everywhere.
Okay, great. Now it's time to tell women to lower their expectations. Men don't need to be 6' tall 5'4" guys are fine. Men don't need to earn $100k/yr. $20k/yr is fine. Men don't need need to be fit, fat men and skinny men are fine. Men don't need to be romantic or caring about a woman's emotions, men can be blunt, harsh and inconsiderate. Men don't need to not want sex all the time. It's okay for men to want sex all the time.
Women need to be taught to lower their standards. Women have unrealistic standards.
It's not men that need to improve themselves any more, it's women who need to set realistic expectations.
Close but not quite. Women need realistic expectations enforced on them. They're never going to arrive at the realization that they need to shape up. They're physically incapable of it. Instead we need at the very least a restoration of social pressures applied to them.
"Hey you're fat and ugly and you'll die alone and unloved and that makes you a horrible person."
You are very right. I am well aware that women must have things forced upon them. I just hesitate to speak the truth about women on KIA2 because that's a quick way to get banned.
Shaming is only one tactic but it's not the most effective. Short of literal physical force, the most effective form of compulsion is financial leverage. One of the main causes for the relationship issues we're seeing today is the social push to make women 50/50 with men in earning power. This removed the financial leverage men used to have over women to force women into having realistic standards because women were forced to sacrifice their unrealistic standards to settle for money. Now, women have money and unrealistic standards and unironically, women have never been more unhappy.
Now, an egalitarian might suggest it's unfair to stop a woman from earning income if she deserves it based on the quality of her labor. Even if that were true, the problem in modernity is that our society unfairly gives too many resources to women despite her inferiority by taking from men and giving to women in order to promote a false ideal of equality. If we simply allocated resources truly based on nothing but merit, men would have significantly more resources than women and men would have a natural position of financial leverage over women to correct for many of the relationship problems that exist today. Abolish child support, abolish alimony, make resource distribution in separations default to what you bring in you get out, no 50/50. Then remove all social programs in society, cut taxes down to the bare minimum to support a defensive military and that's it. Allow for discrimination based on sex/gender (remove any human right suggesting this isn't allowed). Under such a system, women would be forced to reduce their expectations with men because women would be desperate for resources from men because under such a system men would have significantly more resources than women. The only reason women have so many resources isn't because women earn them, it's because the government takes them from men to give to women and this inequity is one of the major reasons why things are so bad today.
Speaking the truth is fine, it's being a sperg that gets Imp banned.
You are correct in every point you have just laid out. The problem is how the hell do we implement such policies? That's the part that leaves me scratching my head.
Make the person unwilling to improve be a pariah. Women in general are social and hate being ignored. Either they will improve to the standard of social norm or be casted out for ignoring it. I bet even without concerning genders, this tactic will work beautifully because a lot of people want attention. Also give incentive to the people that will work themselves out to be according to their respective genders.
I think making a pariah out of whores, false accuser and troublemakers will probably do a trick. But to even implement what I'm suggesting, jews that implement the degenerate trends and norms need to go. Making a pariah isn't even a new thing, Japan has unspoken rule of following the basic social etiquette that's why people in general don't fall out of line. At least they are used to, now i'm not sure what's going on with Japan after they are failing to do anything about Johnny Somali guy.
Speaking the truth is fine, it's being a sperg that gets Imp banned.
Race thinks that "the truth" is that, in his own words, "women are worthless and only fit to be sex slaves to men".
So I'm not exactly surprised that he cannot find a woman, despite thinking that he is in the top 0.35% of men. His bad attitude would be sufficient to vitiate it and more, even if true.
it's because the government takes them from men to give to women and this inequity is one of the major reasons why things are so bad today.
Child support is one of the biggest travesties of the modern era. On paper, it sounds like a good idea. Children should not be made to suffer because of the actions of their parents. The problem however, is that we don't live on paper, we live in the real world. In the real world, child support checks are made out to the mother, not the child. The money is not given the slightest bit of oversight in how it is spent, and as long as the child isn't a starving malnourished vegetable, the state doesn't care. The amount of money is also technically unlimited because it depends on the other spouse's salary, which is almost always a man.
This amount almost never goes down, but can easily go up should the mother want it to. See the case of Dave Foley, who lost his TV gig as a comedian. Because his child support payments were calculated around the salary he was commanding as a TV presenter, he was paying something like $10k Canadian per month. This was not sustainable for him, obviously, and he went to court multiple times to attempt to lower it, being unsuccessful in his attempt, and racking up lawyer fees. It got so bad that he had to flee Canada to the United States because he would have been locked up in prison for failure to pay child support, the modern debtors prison. His ex wife had moved and taken the children somewhere he could not find them, and he hasn't seen them since.
The amount of men who have killed themselves because they become indentured servants to their ex wives is too damn high, and it's solely because they are men that nobody gives a shit. If women were subject to even half the treatment that men are in the court system it would be considered a nationwide crisis.
They need the early reality check about their place on the SMV scale that men get without feminism pounding a sense of entitlement into their heads from birth. That's why pairing up in high school instead of letting women slut around was such a good system. It took the top 5 percenters out of the pool early instead of letting them run through all the women and delude them about their SMV.
We used to have suitors vetted by parents and peers in the past before a couple got serious in committing to one another. That concept has long gone. That's the difference.
Women are just completely out of touch with what men are like out there. According to the Female Delusion Calculator, only 0.35% of men in the age range of 30-39yo are as good as myself. I'm a not obese white man, 5'10" who isn't married and makes $135,000/yr. I can't even have casual sex with women. I haven't been on a date in two years. If I was paired with the top 0.35% of women, I'd be set. Instead, the only women who share any interest in me are single mothers and only if I'm willing to pay everything for them, do all the housework for them and without them having to have sex with me.
Men just want women to have realistic standards such that a woman understands where she falls in the relative attraction scale and goes for men who are relatively similar to her.
Women absolutely refuse to accept they are no where close to as attractive as they think they are relatively speaking.
If this doesn't prove it's all about height and looks I don't know what does. Am I correct in assuming that you're in the bottom 95% in terms of facial features?
I'd say for facial features I'm about a 5.5/10 for white men. I think my overall physical appearance is about a 6.5-7/10. The biggest issue for me personally for relationships is I mostly just want to have sex. I don't actually find women enjoyable for much outside of sex. I like small talk, hanging out, cuddling, watching movies but I hate dating and I hate being on a woman's beck and call. I just like doing what I feel like. I can in fact attract 7-7.5/10 women but these women are always the reformed slut types. They rode the cock carousel and see me as the guy they're going to settle down with, out up the white picket fence, tick their boxes for "marriage" and live a life of keeping up with the Joneses. I have 0 interest in this type of lifestyle with a woman. I want to be the cock on the carousel she's riding but I can only attract 4-5/10 women for that. The 7-7.5/10 women can find 8-9/10 men to ride if that's all they want instead of me. The 4-5/10 women though are too ugly for me to be bothered to have sex with so that basically puts me into Incel territory. For me to have a standard monogamous long-term relationship with a woman, the relationship would have to be under my terms which would be very non-standard compared to most relationships. When a 7/10 decides to settle for me, she sees herself as lowering her standards already so she thinks she should be the one dictating terms for the relationship and I'm not about to compromise on anything just for the sake of making something work. Either it works for me or it doesn't and the kind of relationship most women want doesn't work for me. But ironically, if I was a 9-10/10 man, then the relationship I wanted with the woman would work. The only reason women negotiate for a relationship style they want with men like me is because they think they're doing men like me a favor giving me attention when I'd rather just be single than engage in a relationship structure that's driven by what the woman wants. So that's why I'm single... but I'm in the top 0.35% of men so if women think men are less like me the further they go up, they're sadly mistaken.
Why don't you want to? I don't have casual sex either but the reason I don't is because the women I can have casual sex with are too unattractive for me to be bothered.
Egg freezing was not about their careers. It was about being single or in very unstable relationships with men who were unwilling to commit to them.
it's a storm of multiple problems...
these women don't understand dating is a matching market. it's not like walking into whole foods and picking out an apple. in a matching market, the apple has to pick her back too.
any guy who even talks about standards is viciously attacked... they just don't want to hear the truth.
these women are trading on sex just to get attention from the top 1% of guys. their SMV overall is too low and if they weren't so easy, they would be invisible to these guys. definitionally, 99% of women are not worth commitment from the top 1% of men. that's how matching markets work. female sexual liberation was a mistake.
tell a woman to refuse to have sex with a guy outside a committed relationship, and very few will even entertain the idea. most lack the self awareness or IQ to comprehend what it means... they just see red and go into attack mode. they won't even consider it until their mid 30s when throwing sex at chad won't get them attention anymore, and many are still trying to chase chad while lining up the betabux.
Look, I'm all about self improvement but when below average women want the top 0.5% of men, it's time for society to start viewing the situation from the opposite lens. It's not men that need to improve themselves any more, it's women who need to set realistic expectations.
We as a society seemed to recognize that men had unrealistic standards for women and we told men to stop having them. Women don't need to be feminine, women don't need to a healthy weight, women don't need to want to have sex all the time and it's fine for women to wear pants, sweatshirts, get face tattoos and piercings everywhere.
Okay, great. Now it's time to tell women to lower their expectations. Men don't need to be 6' tall 5'4" guys are fine. Men don't need to earn $100k/yr. $20k/yr is fine. Men don't need need to be fit, fat men and skinny men are fine. Men don't need to be romantic or caring about a woman's emotions, men can be blunt, harsh and inconsiderate. Men don't need to not want sex all the time. It's okay for men to want sex all the time.
Women need to be taught to lower their standards. Women have unrealistic standards.
Close but not quite. Women need realistic expectations enforced on them. They're never going to arrive at the realization that they need to shape up. They're physically incapable of it. Instead we need at the very least a restoration of social pressures applied to them.
"Hey you're fat and ugly and you'll die alone and unloved and that makes you a horrible person."
Cruel you say? Maybe, but fair and accurate.
You are very right. I am well aware that women must have things forced upon them. I just hesitate to speak the truth about women on KIA2 because that's a quick way to get banned.
Shaming is only one tactic but it's not the most effective. Short of literal physical force, the most effective form of compulsion is financial leverage. One of the main causes for the relationship issues we're seeing today is the social push to make women 50/50 with men in earning power. This removed the financial leverage men used to have over women to force women into having realistic standards because women were forced to sacrifice their unrealistic standards to settle for money. Now, women have money and unrealistic standards and unironically, women have never been more unhappy.
Now, an egalitarian might suggest it's unfair to stop a woman from earning income if she deserves it based on the quality of her labor. Even if that were true, the problem in modernity is that our society unfairly gives too many resources to women despite her inferiority by taking from men and giving to women in order to promote a false ideal of equality. If we simply allocated resources truly based on nothing but merit, men would have significantly more resources than women and men would have a natural position of financial leverage over women to correct for many of the relationship problems that exist today. Abolish child support, abolish alimony, make resource distribution in separations default to what you bring in you get out, no 50/50. Then remove all social programs in society, cut taxes down to the bare minimum to support a defensive military and that's it. Allow for discrimination based on sex/gender (remove any human right suggesting this isn't allowed). Under such a system, women would be forced to reduce their expectations with men because women would be desperate for resources from men because under such a system men would have significantly more resources than women. The only reason women have so many resources isn't because women earn them, it's because the government takes them from men to give to women and this inequity is one of the major reasons why things are so bad today.
Speaking the truth is fine, it's being a sperg that gets Imp banned.
You are correct in every point you have just laid out. The problem is how the hell do we implement such policies? That's the part that leaves me scratching my head.
Make the person unwilling to improve be a pariah. Women in general are social and hate being ignored. Either they will improve to the standard of social norm or be casted out for ignoring it. I bet even without concerning genders, this tactic will work beautifully because a lot of people want attention. Also give incentive to the people that will work themselves out to be according to their respective genders.
I think making a pariah out of whores, false accuser and troublemakers will probably do a trick. But to even implement what I'm suggesting, jews that implement the degenerate trends and norms need to go. Making a pariah isn't even a new thing, Japan has unspoken rule of following the basic social etiquette that's why people in general don't fall out of line. At least they are used to, now i'm not sure what's going on with Japan after they are failing to do anything about Johnny Somali guy.
Race thinks that "the truth" is that, in his own words, "women are worthless and only fit to be sex slaves to men".
So I'm not exactly surprised that he cannot find a woman, despite thinking that he is in the top 0.35% of men. His bad attitude would be sufficient to vitiate it and more, even if true.
Child support is one of the biggest travesties of the modern era. On paper, it sounds like a good idea. Children should not be made to suffer because of the actions of their parents. The problem however, is that we don't live on paper, we live in the real world. In the real world, child support checks are made out to the mother, not the child. The money is not given the slightest bit of oversight in how it is spent, and as long as the child isn't a starving malnourished vegetable, the state doesn't care. The amount of money is also technically unlimited because it depends on the other spouse's salary, which is almost always a man.
This amount almost never goes down, but can easily go up should the mother want it to. See the case of Dave Foley, who lost his TV gig as a comedian. Because his child support payments were calculated around the salary he was commanding as a TV presenter, he was paying something like $10k Canadian per month. This was not sustainable for him, obviously, and he went to court multiple times to attempt to lower it, being unsuccessful in his attempt, and racking up lawyer fees. It got so bad that he had to flee Canada to the United States because he would have been locked up in prison for failure to pay child support, the modern debtors prison. His ex wife had moved and taken the children somewhere he could not find them, and he hasn't seen them since.
The amount of men who have killed themselves because they become indentured servants to their ex wives is too damn high, and it's solely because they are men that nobody gives a shit. If women were subject to even half the treatment that men are in the court system it would be considered a nationwide crisis.
Are there statistics on that? This is not a gotcha.
They need the early reality check about their place on the SMV scale that men get without feminism pounding a sense of entitlement into their heads from birth. That's why pairing up in high school instead of letting women slut around was such a good system. It took the top 5 percenters out of the pool early instead of letting them run through all the women and delude them about their SMV.
We used to have suitors vetted by parents and peers in the past before a couple got serious in committing to one another. That concept has long gone. That's the difference.
Step one: burning the entirety of Jane Austen's works.
Women are just completely out of touch with what men are like out there. According to the Female Delusion Calculator, only 0.35% of men in the age range of 30-39yo are as good as myself. I'm a not obese white man, 5'10" who isn't married and makes $135,000/yr. I can't even have casual sex with women. I haven't been on a date in two years. If I was paired with the top 0.35% of women, I'd be set. Instead, the only women who share any interest in me are single mothers and only if I'm willing to pay everything for them, do all the housework for them and without them having to have sex with me.
Men just want women to have realistic standards such that a woman understands where she falls in the relative attraction scale and goes for men who are relatively similar to her.
Women absolutely refuse to accept they are no where close to as attractive as they think they are relatively speaking.
If this doesn't prove it's all about height and looks I don't know what does. Am I correct in assuming that you're in the bottom 95% in terms of facial features?
I'd say for facial features I'm about a 5.5/10 for white men. I think my overall physical appearance is about a 6.5-7/10. The biggest issue for me personally for relationships is I mostly just want to have sex. I don't actually find women enjoyable for much outside of sex. I like small talk, hanging out, cuddling, watching movies but I hate dating and I hate being on a woman's beck and call. I just like doing what I feel like. I can in fact attract 7-7.5/10 women but these women are always the reformed slut types. They rode the cock carousel and see me as the guy they're going to settle down with, out up the white picket fence, tick their boxes for "marriage" and live a life of keeping up with the Joneses. I have 0 interest in this type of lifestyle with a woman. I want to be the cock on the carousel she's riding but I can only attract 4-5/10 women for that. The 7-7.5/10 women can find 8-9/10 men to ride if that's all they want instead of me. The 4-5/10 women though are too ugly for me to be bothered to have sex with so that basically puts me into Incel territory. For me to have a standard monogamous long-term relationship with a woman, the relationship would have to be under my terms which would be very non-standard compared to most relationships. When a 7/10 decides to settle for me, she sees herself as lowering her standards already so she thinks she should be the one dictating terms for the relationship and I'm not about to compromise on anything just for the sake of making something work. Either it works for me or it doesn't and the kind of relationship most women want doesn't work for me. But ironically, if I was a 9-10/10 man, then the relationship I wanted with the woman would work. The only reason women negotiate for a relationship style they want with men like me is because they think they're doing men like me a favor giving me attention when I'd rather just be single than engage in a relationship structure that's driven by what the woman wants. So that's why I'm single... but I'm in the top 0.35% of men so if women think men are less like me the further they go up, they're sadly mistaken.
A black man with my height age and income is like 0011 iirc. I can have casual sex but I don't want to.
Why don't you want to? I don't have casual sex either but the reason I don't is because the women I can have casual sex with are too unattractive for me to be bothered.
citation fucking needed
Oh, I don't believe men did at all. I'm going by what disingenuous feminists were pretending to believe to increase their power over men.
FTA:
it's a storm of multiple problems...